Opinions on UKAPU

[Cannonfodder]

I never said it wasn't my perception.

 

Are people not allowed to point out where an organisation isn't following it's own rules and ask questions now? Questions which others may also have. Or are we all just supposed to stick to juvenile attempts at insults which bring nothing to the topic being discussed?

 

[Shamal]

I think ukapu do some good work on behalf of the Airsoft playing community.

They have campaigned and lobbied various officials and worked alongside the police to keep us playing and enjoying the game we all love.

I have supported them for at least seven years and attended a few AGM/game days.

 

 

[SBoardley]

15 minutes ago, TacticalWaifu said:

 

Asking a question is neither "ranting" nor "judging," nor is it "demanding" answers - but keep making things up. As for the "ranting" claim, you really should look closer to home.

 

Since you've been nothing but toxic and passive-aggressive, I'm hardly inclined to respond to you anyway - but which orgs I'm a member of are precisely none of your concern.

 

 When the trolling doesn't work, you just return to ad-hominems 🙄 Keep trying to stir things up when your trolling isn't working though, I'm sure you'll get somebody to bite one day 🎣

So you are not ukapu then. Just a soapbox troll. 

[TacticalWaifu]

3 minutes ago, SBoardley said:

So you are not ukapu then. Just a soapbox troll. 

 

No soapbox, and the only troll here is you -- stop projecting. If you were actually active you'd have know the answer, but apparently you're just here to sling mud and see what sticks. Me not being obsequious to the demands of an obvious toxic troll says precisely nothing about who I am or aren't a member of. Try harder next time, kid.

[SBoardley]

1 minute ago, TacticalWaifu said:

blah blah blah blah

Do you hear your own words when you speak out loud?

[Cannonfodder]

9 minutes ago, SBoardley said:

Do you hear your own words when you speak out loud?

Could ask you the same. So far you've brought nothing constructive to this thread and instead have decided to engage in petty attacks on someone else 

[Duff Beer]

If there is a better way to put people off joining UKAPU then I’d like to see it.  At the beginning of the thread I was considering becoming a member, but what with the general back-and-forthing and bylaws being referenced like lives depended on it I’ll steer well clear.

 

This is supposed to be a fun sport.  None of what I’m seeing above is anything near the definition of fun.  I’ll take my chances with UKARA being sensible enough to protect their livelihoods (and therefore the game).

Edited July 7, 2023 by Duff Beer
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[SBoardley]

1 hour ago, SBoardley said:

I asked a simple question and offered a simple suggestion bud. 

1 hour ago, SBoardley said:

@TacticalWaifuare you actually a member of ukapu? If you are surely there are internal mechanisms for you to use?

I asked a simple question and offered a simple suggestion bud. 
@Cannonfodder

Edited July 7, 2023 by SBoardley

[Cannonfodder]

Which was already answered before you even posted it, but you'd know that if you weren't more interested in just stirring things up

[TacticalWaifu]

22 minutes ago, SBoardley said:

I asked a simple question and offered a simple suggestion bud. 

I asked a simple question and offered a simple suggestion bud. 
@Cannonfodder

 

More trolling from you, how unoriginal 🙄

 

I asked a relevant question about the Constitution being disregarded -- which is of paramount importance, given it's the only thing that binds the unincorporated association of UKAPU -- it's members and committee -- together.

 

You, however, made a bunch of petty and unsolicited personal attacks - then thought to push irrelevant personal questions - when my membership of *any* org is neither relevant to the points I raised (or indeed this topic), nor any of your damn business.

 

Oh, and I'm not your "bud," so drop the condescending BS - it's not big, it's not clever, and you're transparent af.

Edited July 7, 2023 by TacticalWaifu

[SBoardley]

4 minutes ago, TacticalWaifu said:

 

More trolling from you, how unoriginal 🙄

 

I asked a relevant question about the Constitution being disregarded -- which is of paramount importance, given it's the only thing that binds the unincorporated association of UKAPU -- it's members and committee -- together.

 

You, however, made a bunch of petty and unsolicited personal attacks - then thought to push irrelevant personal questions - when my membership of *any* org is neither relevant to the points I raised (or indeed this topic), nor any of your damn business.

 

Oh, and I'm not your "bud," so drop the condescending BS - it's not big, it's not clever, and you're transparent af.

Oh my god. Do you ever shut up? I was referring to cannon as “ bud” I certainly wouldn’t refer to you so endearingly. 
I call something like boring sex starved woke ass hole or something. 

[Pseudotectonic]

Join my club for £3 a year, I do everything UKAPU does without going behind the scene

 

1. Join games without the need of facebook account

 

2. A legal blog

 

3. Discounts (currently in negotiations)

 

4. Email address you can send emails to

 

[Shamal]

14 minutes ago, Pseudotectonic said:

Join my club for £3 a year, I do everything UKAPU does without going behind the scene

 

1. Join games without the need of facebook account

 

2. A legal blog

 

3. Discounts (currently in negotiations)

 

4. Email address you can send emails to

 

Cool.

Will you be doing a free attacksense setup at the n.a.e with prizes for the best times? 😂

[Pseudotectonic]

3 minutes ago, Shamal said:

Cool.

Will you be doing a free attacksense setup at the n.a.e with prizes for the best times? 😂

If we can get AttackSense to sponsor this and maybe G&G to provide some competition grade airsoft for the game and for the prize, then why the heck not

[Speedbird_666]

1 hour ago, TacticalWaifu said:

which is of paramount importance

 

Is it really?

 

I mean really, really?

 

Stop to look at the context - we run (or amble with intent) around, playing dress-up pretend solders, with toy guns to shoot little plastic balls at each other.

 

In the grand scheme of things - nobody else gives a shit about how the organisation handles their constitution. I know I don't.

 

You've laboured your point - if you have an issue with UKAPU - email them.

 

 

Edited July 7, 2023 by Speedbird_666

[TacticalWaifu]

When they've got close to £20k precariously sitting in a PayPal balance, and this election is supposed to help fix a lot of the issues covered in this post, yes it is.

 

When a Constitution is the only thing that binds an unincorporated association, because they have no independent legal personality, then absolutely it matters. The fact that you "don't give a shit" and are arrogant enough to try and speak for others, just shows how ignorant and nonchalant you are in this matter -- so your feeble attempt at condescending tripe, really doesn't matter.

 

Clearly you've never been involved in running such orgs, or you wouldn't be so flippant - but evidently you just had to jump in and have your little dig.

 

Hope you think you're such a big, strong man for barking orders and saying your spiel 🙄 - I know I don't.

Edited July 7, 2023 by TacticalWaifu

[Shamal]

1 hour ago, Pseudotectonic said:

If we can get AttackSense to sponsor this and maybe G&G to provide some competition grade airsoft for the game and for the prize, then why the heck not

Ok I'll sign up 😂😂

[Adolf Hamster]

To be fair, an organisation that doesnt charge for its use or for that matter be particularly overbearing with engagement (as evidenced by my penny pinching self having thorougjly forgotten i'd signed up) it's hard to care that much about what they do.

 

Yes in principle a single unified body representing our hobby sounds like exactly what we need, ultimately many folks simply dont notice or care the "on the ground" effect and thus are unlikely to give a monkeys if #3457 of their 10000+ strong email spam list are or are not in breach of their constitution.

 

Until ukapu gets the widespread site engagement that means you'd realistically notice and care for a ukapu approval notice on their webpage then the majority of players are unlikely to care so deeply for how its run.

 

Having left the hobby precisely because of a lack of consistent good management amongst the sites i have access to it seems obvious to me that what this sport needs is not government lobbying or annual general meetings, but a widespread network of sites that agree with a real world noticable effect on performing duties such as marshalling, good chronograph practice and site bans that not only stick at the sites that initated them but at others in their region.

 

But alas we're stuck with sites that ask "what size bb's are you using?" With no real effort to understanding the effects of joule creep or for that matter the difference between joules and velocity measurements despite it being something anyone with a gcse in physics should at least understand the implications of even if they remain ignorant of the factors that cause it. Hell even when explained something as simple as "you can put a cable tie on most hpa regulators, here's how you do it *cable ties his own regulator to demonstrate*" or "you know you can can just print the site fps  limit of various common bb weights and sellotape it on the back of the chono" is largely ignored with at best a token effort to ask what weight of bb's a player is running

 

 

[Shamal]

Give it up now @TacticalWaifu

Your rhetoric is becoming somewhat samey.

Regards 

[TacticalWaifu]

1 hour ago, Shamal said:

Give it up now @TacticalWaifu

Your rhetoric is becoming somewhat samey.

Regards 

 

What the hell is your problem, random dude? Do you just get off on repeatedly attacking people you don't know the first thing about? Is that how you get your rocks off, barking orders at strangers? Pathetic.

[Jedi_Master]

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On 14/06/2023 at 20:29, Scythian said:

So, I'm considering joining UKAPU as I seem to be spending an ever increasing amount of time and money on the hobby and I'd like to see it continue. Just wondering if this is the only organization that represents our interests or are there others I should consider?