Airsoft Questionnaire

[ACA]

I'm asking as many airsoft players, site owners, suppliers and anybody with any association with Airsoft to please complete this attached survey. it's not sales & it's not to collect your personal details. It's for market research for a potential new game site. interesting results so far.

https://goo.gl/forms/FHN4AZzUdkv4OB9W2

[Guest]

Nope, not signing in with my Google details, sorry

[Jedi_Master]

I do not have a Google account so no go.

 

@ACA does your “market research” for your potential new speedball type site actually need anyone’s email?   You could have an option for just saying which forum instead.

 

Also you could have run a draft copy here for any comments/thoughts before going live.

[Duff]

Well I filled it in... 🤠

[Sitting Duck]

Spam scam, no offense but that is my gut feeling on these surveys

 

They go up on numerous forums by new members

 

no thanks to links to external surveys - if you have a question start a poll or two

not that it matters much my email on here is an old spare one but I prefer not to ask for more spam

or receive tax refunds from nigerian spacemen etc.....

 

 

[E21A]

To be fair this user did start a thread about speedsofters or somesuch 

[Sneaky]

Too long to complete at work.

[Sitting Duck]

6 minutes ago, E21A said:

To be fair this user did start a thread about speedsofters or somesuch 

 

Good cover asking some questions first coz a brand new member asking a survey on first post raises too many questions

 

As I said my gut feeling & all that....

no offense etc...

 

I have been wrong before but still looks suspect

but if you or anybody wishes to complete a survey - admit I haven't even clicked on link

 

Be my guest by all means & tell me I wrong

Just don't respond to any Tax Office refunds or paypal warnings about suspicious activity etc....

I already have enough viagra companies and fake passport/licenses

 

Gonna get myself a new UKARA license as soon as the Nigerian spaceship returns with my moon gold

 

But hey - if I'm wrong you can buy me a drink from your tax refund - just offering a bit of warning that's all

[ACA]

11 hours ago, Jedi_Master said:

I do not have a Google account so no go.

 

@ACA does your “market research” for your potential new speedball type site actually need anyone’s email?   You could have an option for just saying which forum instead.

 

Also you could have run a draft copy here for any comments/thoughts before going live.

I don’t need people’s e-mail address. I didn’t call it speedball, from reviewing various people’s posts and events I don’t actually believe anybody knows what to call it yet. I didn’t post it as a draft because I expect there to be plent of question to arise from the responses. If you want to offer any suggestions for question then please do so. Do you have any suggestions for how to get people to take the survey who dont have a google account?

11 hours ago, Duff said:

Well I filled it in... 🤠

Thanks Duff, mane you can post that it’s not a scam & is a genuine Airsoft survey.

11 hours ago, Sitting Duck said:

 

Good cover asking some questions first coz a brand new member asking a survey on first post raises too many questions

 

As I said my gut feeling & all that....

no offense etc...

 

I have been wrong before but still looks suspect

but if you or anybody wishes to complete a survey - admit I haven't even clicked on link

 

Be my guest by all means & tell me I wrong

Just don't respond to any Tax Office refunds or paypal warnings about suspicious activity etc....

I already have enough viagra companies and fake passport/licenses

 

Gonna get myself a new UKARA license as soon as the Nigerian spaceship returns with my moon gold

 

But hey - if I'm wrong you can buy me a drink from your tax refund - just offering a bit of warning that's all

You could speak to Airsoft Nation as we had spoken in some detail about my idea and how best to get responses. I understand your reservation.

11 hours ago, rocketdogbert said:

Nope, not signing in with my Google details, sorry

No prob did you want the question in a different way? If so how?

[clumpyedge]

Read through the questions then saw the last ones about a tournament and made me not want to fill it out.... generally I find that with surveys if you read the last couple of questions that says all you need to know about what the person wants to find out.

 

Tournaments in Airsoft unless its something like 3 gun or practical shooting in my honest opinion is pointless... too many people prepared to cheat to take the kudos of winning.

 

[Arwen]

In regards to the above, mandatory, questions. I have an acronym for you. 

GDPR

These answers are classed as personal and identifable information, so with that in mind.

1. How are you storing the raw data?

2. How is the raw data secured from data breaches?

3. Who has access to the raw data?

4. How long will you be keeping the raw data for?

5. How will you be processing the data? Will you be anonymising the data at all?

 

 

There are many more question I should ask. But I imagine that will keep you going for now. 

[Duff]

I find peoples reactions to this "data mining" quite laughable.

 

Age bracket and gender, really? What harm is that going to cause anyone. It's not personal data as it's in no way specific.

[Arwen]

You'd be surprised what people can do with very little information about people @Duff Habits, routines and information are very powerful things to people who want them. And they will pay big money for pre-collated information like this, that is more or less trust worthy as people have inputted it themselves. 

 

Example 1

Say I put down my age bracket of 48-50+ and gender is female.  That would put me into the category of people who are likely to fall for various technology related scams. A bit closer to home, if someone can work out where I live then they could make a fair assessment as to how much force may be required to subdue me if they wanted to brake into my house. 

 

Example 2 

19-26 year old male. - This would put me in a range of people who normally can be easily seduced into giving more information. This can be in the form of coxing info via bragging rights, or giving away too much information about their job or routines. 

 

Now, team age and gender along with profession and you can assume a lot more about a persons routine, and have a higher probability of getting it right. 

 

Example 1 

27-33 female. Profession - Nurse

Easy to assume that I work shifts, so out the house for long periods of time, that can normally be fitted into a scheduled. 

 

Example 2

41-47 year old male. Profession - Legal admin

You can assume that I probably work a normal day in the office, but probably bring work home with me on a laptop or paper. With being older, you can assume that I would have more "clearance" in the company so I am probably privvy to more information than a junior member of staff. 

 

 

From what I can see, these 4 questions are not required for the desired outcome of this survey (which is to make/better an airsoft site?).

To put it simply. 

Just because you can collect information, does not mean that you should. 

[Druid799]

Seems legit too me ? 🤔

[Lozart]

5 hours ago, Duff said:

I find peoples reactions to this "data mining" quite laughable.

 

Age bracket and gender, really? What harm is that going to cause anyone. It's not personal data as it's in no way specific.

 

Data mining is never just from a single source. Once you get enough sources of data it's far easier to steal someone's identity. An age from here, a location from there....it all adds up.

[Guest]

14 hours ago, ACA said:

No prob did you want the question in a different way? If so how?

 

So I don’t have to sign in anywhere first

[ACA]

2 hours ago, rocketdogbert said:

 

So I don’t have to sign in anywhere first

Somebody else in a FB Group I posted the questionnaire in offered a suggestion. "If you don't want to use your own e-mail or don't have a gmail account you could use a disposable email service like https://temp-mail.org"

3 hours ago, Lozart said:

 

Data mining is never just from a single source. Once you get enough sources of data it's far easier to steal someone's identity. An age from here, a location from there....it all adds up.

Really! - Call or message Graham Hoffman at Airsoft Nation Magazine, I spoke to him at length about this on the phone.

5 hours ago, Druid799 said:

Seems legit too me ? 🤔

Thank you

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, ACA said:

 

2 hours ago, rocketdogbert said:

 

So I don’t have to sign in anywhere first

Somebody else in a FB Group I posted the questionnaire in offered a suggestion. "If you don't want to use your own e-mail or don't have a gmail account you could use a disposable email service like https://temp-mail.org"

 

 

Aaaaaand I’m out

[ACA]

5 hours ago, Arwen said:

You'd be surprised what people can do with very little information about people @Duff Habits, routines and information are very powerful things to people who want them. And they will pay big money for pre-collated information like this, that is more or less trust worthy as people have inputted it themselves. 

 

Example 1

Say I put down my age bracket of 48-50+ and gender is female.  That would put me into the category of people who are likely to fall for various technology related scams. A bit closer to home, if someone can work out where I live then they could make a fair assessment as to how much force may be required to subdue me if they wanted to brake into my house. 

 

Example 2 

19-26 year old male. - This would put me in a range of people who normally can be easily seduced into giving more information. This can be in the form of coxing info via bragging rights, or giving away too much information about their job or routines. 

 

Now, team age and gender along with profession and you can assume a lot more about a persons routine, and have a higher probability of getting it right. 

 

Example 1 

27-33 female. Profession - Nurse

Easy to assume that I work shifts, so out the house for long periods of time, that can normally be fitted into a scheduled. 

 

Example 2

41-47 year old male. Profession - Legal admin

You can assume that I probably work a normal day in the office, but probably bring work home with me on a laptop or paper. With being older, you can assume that I would have more "clearance" in the company so I am probably privvy to more information than a junior member of staff. 

 

 

From what I can see, these 4 questions are not required for the desired outcome of this survey (which is to make/better an airsoft site?).

To put it simply. 

Just because you can collect information, does not mean that you should. 

 

I've written a number of different replies to this but deleted them all because I keep coming back to is REALLY!

6 minutes ago, rocketdogbert said:

 

Aaaaaand I’m out

No problem, you could have spoken to Graham Hoffman of Airsoft nation Magazine to ask if I'm credible.

3 hours ago, Lozart said:

 

Data mining is never just from a single source. Once you get enough sources of data it's far easier to steal someone's identity. An age from here, a location from there....it all adds up.

 

8 hours ago, Duff said:

I find peoples reactions to this "data mining" quite laughable.

 

Age bracket and gender, really? What harm is that going to cause anyone. It's not personal data as it's in no way specific.

I had an issue with a parking beat survey I commissioned for a planning application and the pictures in the report showed cars parked in the street, the planners wanted the company to blank-out the number plates so they couldn't be identified despite, they were parked on the public highway for anybody to see. Go figure.

[Robert James]

7 minutes ago, ACA said:

 

I've written a number of different replies to this but deleted them all because I keep coming back to is REALLY!

No problem, you could have spoken to Graham Hoffman of Airsoft nation Magazine to ask if I'm credible.

I don't know why you're so hurt that people won't do a survey. If they don't want to, stop begging with all your smartass answers. 

 

How many times do you want to name drop someone? Why don't you ask Novritsch whilst your at it, if he posts it on his YouTube channel you'll get a lot more answers. Stop begging people on here to answer, if they don't want to. 

[ACA]

11 hours ago, clumpyedge said:

Read through the questions then saw the last ones about a tournament and made me not want to fill it out.... generally I find that with surveys if you read the last couple of questions that says all you need to know about what the person wants to find out.

 

Tournaments in Airsoft unless its something like 3 gun or practical shooting in my honest opinion is pointless... too many people prepared to cheat to take the kudos of winning.

 

Why not answer the questions and state your case good and/or bad, this is one of the reasons why I put the questionnaire together to establish the general consensus. If a site owner knows what you want and how to deal with any issues then they can work towards providing it. thanks anyway.

22 hours ago, Sitting Duck said:

 

Good cover asking some questions first coz a brand new member asking a survey on first post raises too many questions

 

As I said my gut feeling & all that....

no offense etc...

 

I have been wrong before but still looks suspect

but if you or anybody wishes to complete a survey - admit I haven't even clicked on link

 

Be my guest by all means & tell me I wrong

Just don't respond to any Tax Office refunds or paypal warnings about suspicious activity etc....

I already have enough viagra companies and fake passport/licenses

 

Gonna get myself a new UKARA license as soon as the Nigerian spaceship returns with my moon gold

 

But hey - if I'm wrong you can buy me a drink from your tax refund - just offering a bit of warning that's all

You're wrong, speak to Graham Hoffman of Airsoft Nation Magazine to ask about me, I actually spoke to him on the phone about this.

5 minutes ago, Robert James said:

I don't know why you're so hurt that people won't do a survey. If they don't want to, stop begging with all your smartass answers. 

 

How many times do you want to name drop someone? Why don't you ask Novritsch whilst your at it, if he posts it on his YouTube channel you'll get a lot more answers. Stop begging people on here to answer, if they don't want to. 

I'm not hurt and I'm not begging, just don't fill it in, there's just no need for all the negative posts accusing me of being underhanded and scamming etc. I posted it with the best intention of getting clarity to make sure I was heading down the right path before I sink a wad of cash into a site hoping that people will turn up wanting to play the games I had planned on the site I had planned etc without the market research how would I know? no need to answer.

[ACA]

11 hours ago, Arwen said:

In regards to the above, mandatory, questions. I have an acronym for you. 

GDPR

These answers are classed as personal and identifable information, so with that in mind.

1. How are you storing the raw data?

2. How is the raw data secured from data breaches?

3. Who has access to the raw data?

4. How long will you be keeping the raw data for?

5. How will you be processing the data? Will you be anonymising the data at all?

 

 

There are many more question I should ask. But I imagine that will keep you going for now. 

I shall be dealing with the info, in the same way, I deal with my business, client's details as I have ICO registration.

[Robert James]

33 minutes ago, ACA said:

Why not answer the questions and state your case good and/or bad, this is one of the reasons why I put the questionnaire together to establish the general consensus. If a site owner knows what you want and how to deal with any issues then they can work towards providing it. thanks anyway.

You're wrong, speak to Graham Hoffman of Airsoft Nation Magazine to ask about me, I actually spoke to him on the phone about this.

I'm not hurt and I'm not begging, just don't fill it in, there's just no need for all the negative posts accusing me of being underhanded and scamming etc. I posted it with the best intention of getting clarity to make sure I was heading down the right path before I sink a wad of cash into a site hoping that people will turn up wanting to play the games I had planned on the site I had planned etc without the market research how would I know? no need to answer.

Then if someone doesn't want to fill it in, just say ok no worries. Stop name dropping etc. 

[Gtech]

Hey guys, seems the @gtech tag didn't come up  

Yes I've spent several hours chatting to @ACA  about  how a speedball/speedsoft/speedqb could be the route into airsoft being seen as a sport in the eyes of the Sports England if, and when Airsoft gets a Governing Body (yes, we've tried this before in 2006!).

Now, I know a lot of people across the community don't want to play, or try speedsoft - but in my eyes it's another string on the bow when it comes to fighting future legislation and another avenue that is currently underdeveloped in this industry.

ACA is just trying to get some information and find player opinion's before going down this route. I just want to try and improve the industry and feel that this competitive aspect (beyond skirmishing, milsims, hunteering) could just be a possibility for a % of the community.

He could of used polls and feedback from the forum, but it wouldn't help him across other airsoft communities. A form helps keep the answers together, whether that was done via SurveyMonkey, Zoho Forms or Google Docs.

Of course it's entirely your choice to complete it or not, but I can say it's going out with the best of intentions behind it. 

[ACA]

4 minutes ago, Robert James said:

Then if someone doesn't want to fill it in, just say ok no worries. Stop name dropping etc. 

Fine.