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Shameless - I have one for sale 👀

I know I’m building up a HPA gun, but I want to get a GBBR again towards end of the year purely as a home fun / drills toy, and backup for game days. As said above you cannot beat a GBBR for interaction 😁 Haha! Yes plenty of Super Nubs, should have a fresh batch of HSBs done by the end of the month too. So are you going to sell you HPA gear and go full commital!? If you can afford to I would keep 1 MTW with Wraith stock. Itd be a great backup, sub zero gaming, more ‘auto’ fire games/dense scrub. Or would you keep a bottle for HPA tap MWS? Or @rocketdogbert drum mag 😜

Pistol grips are easy, they take real steel ones, so fit whatever you desire *cough* K2 😁

Let me guess Defcon 😁 Yes I quite fancy a URG-I one! Think they are good value with the rail, charging handle etc

Modular Weapon System, doesn’t really relate to much other than its a Colt M4A1 or CQBR. Im a big time pedaller of the MWS but if all I was doing was training drills at home, sub 50M targets I would take a V2 GHK M4 all day. The trigger, the feel, C02 mags and the RS compatibility edge over the MWS are why. PS I assume you have a UKARA or that’s going to be one expensive two tone RIF!

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Not particularly, the reason is because of the sprung nozzle buffer device, the like of the GHK M4 /all other GBBRs do not have this, so the bolt crashes (clacks) into the hop unit. The MWS bolt decelerates into the hop unit.

@alxndrhll Yeh 3 MTWs is unnecessary. Id def sell 2 and sit tight there for a while. Are they all dressed for different parties? Do you run pistols also? @Adolf Hamster “only for the mark to shrug and keep playing.....” is the whole reason I don’t generally get on with GBBR in field games, more often than not a burst is needed for the recipient to acknowledge/concede. Indoors however GBB is great. A lot of the time fear of the noisy gas gun alone scores you hits 😁

That’s what put me off the MTW, the hop and barrel were too inaccessible. Im building up inside a TM NextGen, so I can just slide the upper off to get at the hop. That lovely unicorn magic dust hop 😁 Yes I think lockdown has been great for a lot of retail!! So are you feeling the pull of GBBR? I put a lot of thought into the V2 GHK M4, again because of C02. I like the interaction of a GBBR it is definitely immersive. I will most likely get another TM MP7 to scratch that itch whenever an indoor game is on the cards.

Are you talking coming from an MTW by chance? Ha you’ve watched that, and that’s with a microphone listening, picks up a lot more high pitch noises than the human ear.

EDIT: @alxndrhll RE the C02 length of pull / stock setup, I did quite a bit of vid watching, asking owners, measuring images (sad’O) etc and concluded what you have said, 2 clicks in. With my preferred Vltor IMOD that gives a LOP of ~310mm. (buttstock end to trigger) The IMOD has quite a foot angle so when shouldered high (active/aware/CQB) it’s actually shorter than that. So I’m happy with that but you may want shorter still by the sounds of it? If you’re predominantly a semi shooter then the sewing machine factor isn’t a thing with a properly built AEG, high torque motor / fast gear set. Even more so if you add precocking into the mix as the shot masks the motor cycle. Shame your not local (and COVID crap obv) I’d say come have a pop with the AK to listen / experience.

I had a Polarstar FE, great bit of kit performance wise, but I grew tired of storing and lugging the required kit around. Why do you think you can’t you be bothered with it? There are many factors to the why and what, and I feel I’ve gotten exponentially faster and more ruthless in gun building/ditching in search of my ‘perfect setup’. Sounds like you’ve been mulling for a while, I’d say write down your factors and which gun/setup ticks the relevant boxes because as you say, you’ve been going round in circles, easily done when there’s too much to comprehend - so write it down then you can look at it in a table format or something. For me, effective range and first hit probability are top of the list, seconded by ergonomics such that I can get on target fast, thirdly stealth. I like being active, so camping / sniping is out. I like ranged shots moving in and getting up close to the action, so DMR is out. Assault rifle it is then. To that end sorted AEGs give up nothing to GBB or HPA. The only exception is noise. I recently built a stonking AK, love it, but cannot get the motor any quieter. Recently (on the grand scheme of things) C02 stocks have come about, so now I’m into an F2 build. So I think maybe that’s an option?? EDIT: haha literally as I wrote this you answered Albiscuit and essentially sound like me

Yup, id personally sooner buy a bog standard MWS and make my own MK18 without PITA parts.

As above the gearbox and compression parts are very good. I have owned 3 and built others for customers to varying levels but you don’t need much. The gear set is also very good quality - DO NOT CHANGE THEM! This is all you want parts wise; ZCI high torque motor with ICS pinion Prometheus EG barrel 455mm Prometheus type 2 cylinder Renew the piston head O ring Nice bucking and nub Gate PicoAAB Alpha Wire 16awg 11.1V LiPo New ICS spring if it’s sat around for years. Renew ICS parts in the lower receiver related to the cut off lever - I cannot remember the part numbers but if you look in your manual at the parts diagram you can order them direct from ICS. This keeps fire selector semi issues at bay. Free upgrades / work; Re shim the gearbox. Set motor height. Polish / de burr the gearbox shell. Check all air seals. Support the inner barrel agains vibration. Shim the hop unit toward the gearbox 0.5mm-0.75mm, this fixes double feed. Icing on the cake, semi pro job; Ditch the trigger contact assy and replace with a micro switch, short stroke the trigger. Yes I like the ICS L85 😁

Wait you’re supposed to solder through the heatshrink!? 🙈

@occidio so it does make sense, a GBB auto volumes, which yes I agree if you fastidiously volume matched an AEG cylinder you could achieve ‘nearly’ the same affect AKA joule creep. I say ‘nearly’ because there is something about the way a GBB accelerates a BB, until the floating valve closes. AEGs simply cannot accelerate the BB in the same manor, I think this is down to the short stroke of an AEGs piston, circa 40mm. As such to get DMR FPS the spring is very strong, so the BB is ‘popped’ more than accelerated. A BASR has a much longer stroke allowing for better acceleration.

Pretty much all parts are 'compatible', but what really makes everything work properly is awareness of the fit and range of motion of things. To that end a great gearbox is ultimately the sum total of being aware, observant and having patience - all of which are free. Other than that some measuring combined with a file and sand/emery paper will make everything compatible. Sealing of things with PTFE tape works for cheap if you have limited parts.

Owing to the nature of Gas power they are better performing as a DMR than an AEG powered one would be, froma an energy transfer point of view. Obviously they are not magical so will not perform as well as a proerly sorted BASR. IMO and experience, fully worked airsoft guns generally are capable of the following measured EFFECTIVE RANGE; 500 fps BASR - 95M 430 fps MWS DMR - 80M 430 fps AEG DMR - 75M 340 fps AEG - 65M

Haha it was the only rule in Goldeneye multiplayer! I loved the Proximiy grenads

Humbrol “dark brown” aerosol is the best FDE colour I’ve come across, I find Magpul FDE more like tan/too light

Yes it’s a combination of double bearings adding spring preload, and a type D cylinder. Also how far your buffer tube is screwed in will affect it. That said it will only screw in so far before it will stop the upper receiver going fully home. Remove the bearing block from the piston head, I’m guessing you’re using this; That should see you at 330

I guy at a site I play has his kids there, they are damn good and easy to hide!!

Wish they’d make an MPX 😭

Theatre of engagement, nice! That'll be the garden then ATM 🙈