Fatboy40

My M904E is almost completely different from stock apart from the receiver + handguard + gearbox shell + gears + motor + Falcon controller, everything else has been replaced with a mixture of parts from www.ak2m4.co.uk + Maple Leaf + Maxx Model + PTS. My M908A has had various upgrades / mods to run as a UK site allowed semi-only DMR, shooting 0.40g (I've still got loads to do though to get it to my satisfaction, but bugger all money to do it). My son's M906C hasn't been tweaked too much, just Maple Leaf bucking and nub + ZCI rotary hop unit + GearParts M100 spring + PTS EPS stock (all my money's gone on pimping out his G&G Firehawk with a GATE Titan and a few other bits and pieces).

What i_need_help57 said on Reddit is probably the most accurate reply to you so far, in that a motor that powerful will probably give you more negatives than positives in what in all honesty is a rifle made to a cheap price point (the gears, piston, ETU / controller). The stock Chaoli branded motors are undoubtedly dirt cheap and using ferrite magnets, so really inefficient and we've absolutely no idea who many turns there are on them. Even the Warhead Base models are quite expensive, and have will have huge amounts of torque compared to the stock Chaoli, so maybe start with a... https://www.ak2m4.co.uk/internal-parts/motors-parts/shs-high-torque-motor-16tpa-long ... and ask @ak2m4 for some advice? ?

Didn't we already cover this on Reddit a few days ago?... https://old.reddit.com/r/airsoft/comments/xrd8iq/warhead_motor_on_stock_m904g_double_eagle/

None of the ones shown there, mine are the Viper Tactical Recon Gloves, much more like the Mechanix.

Ouch, if you have a husband or wife don't let them find out ? Just a GATE Titan BASIC, a Warhead Industries Base motor and a Maxx Model advanced trigger would have turned your Defender into a beast.

They're actually very good, mine have had masses of abuse, are covered in dirt / blood / snot, and are very comfortable.

From the above I'm assuming you're using the same tappet plate + nozzle + hop unit as before? Also what was your previous gear ratio? (I'm assuming a stock Nuprol Defender so maybe 18:1?). It would seem sensible to start with checking your air seal in general as, in theory, the parts used should not negatively effect anything (and I'm assuming that the GATE Eon piston head has a bearing, so the spring would be compressed further and that in itself will give a few extra FPS). What FPS /. Joules were you getting on your chrono before and after?

I'm as certain as I can be that Patrol Base buy a lot of their stock from Taiwan Gun (aka "Krakman" https://www.taiwangun.biz/en ), and their DE rifles come from them (however not all stock of DE rifles in the UK come from there).

I've now a new object of desire more than any pew... "The Catalog" ?

Worth noting that all the M900's have the same internals, so those with the 400mm+ inner barrels are running a 3/4 cylinder so a bit under-volumed ?

I've been running 11.1v Li-Po's and Li-Io's in mine for over a year, and it's been faultless (the same with my DE rifle built to be a DMR, and my sons). There are some on Reddit who really twist the knife into the Falcon controller and its reliability, however I'm betting (based on what I've read) that they've run them ragged on full auto and you really can get the cheap stock Chaoli motor very hot if you're a numpty / newbie and this is also negatively effecting the controller.

I'm deferring to more knowledgeable people, however trying to effectively hop double the weight of BB you acknowledge that you'll lose power, and it can be quite a bit. For myself and my DMR build I've also used the blunt instrument that is a stronger spring to increase power, but I know that this is like pushing a car to the red line in that it will put substantially more strain on the gearbox and motor. My goal now is to hop the BB as effectively as possible, and by doing this I don't have to use crazy springs etc. I'm using a Maple Leaf AEG inner barrel and MR / Maximum Range bucking in both my DMR and AEG (one with a Omega nub), effectively giving me an off the shelf r-hop as with a Macaron you have to apply too much pressure on the patch and lose all that power. I'd say move away from the Macaron and go to an MR or similar, but this may mean a new inner barrel otherwise the bucking's patch may not sit well in the cut-out. A recent revelation to me those has been a Maxx Model M4A-PRO hop unit and their 21.25mm nozzle. I know it's not cheap but I just fitted these to my AEG where I was running a ZCI rotary plastic hop unit, where I could never get the amount of hop spot on and was losing too much power. The Maxx unit and nozzle magically gave me an extra 15 FPS on 0.28g BBs, Maxx say there may be an increase but this was brilliant and I've gone down now as well from an M110 spring back to an M100. Testing it in a big open space last night though the change to the hoppping was stunning, where I'm using their solid metal concave nub, and I could apply more than enough hop with only a light pressure. If on my AEG, shooting 0.28g BBs with the ML barrel and ML MR bucking, the Maxx hop unit + nub + nozzle can make that much difference I can't wait to have the money to buy one for my DMR (I shoot 0.40g BBs with an M130 spring, 4/5 cylinder and 410mm inner barrel).

@RostokMcSpoons I'm trying to get my DE M904E to be a bit of a rifle that does it all, in that it's quick enough to get a shot off for a surprise player hiding round a corner but can lob a 0.28 / 0.30 much further than you'd expect and catch people off guard. I'm getting there with the Maple Leaf inner barrel and MR bucking, an out of the box r-hop, but the hop unit is letting me down. They've improved the latch on the bottom of them with the M4A-PRO, it's a different design, and even trying a John Wick style mag change it's retaining 4x BB's in the hop unit for me with no problems ?

Nope, 100% Maple Leaf.

That's the plan. I'm playing this Sunday at the same site that I last played at, Ironsight, which I could walk around in my sleep. There's a particular outdoors rat run that's around 50m in length with some fixed points of cover, and I use this to judge range and accuracy, and last time with 0.28g + ZCI hop unit + Maple Leaf AEG inner barrel + Maple Leaf MR 60 degree bucking + Omega nub I wasn't happy with the range I was getting. I've gone from the stock hop unit to the ZCI, however for me I couldn't get a sweet spot, it was either too much or not enough hop, plus the Omega nub never sat perfectly (maybe something to do with the ZCI or its arm). After talking to Maxx Model, telling them my setup, I'm using their solid metal concave nub which they recommended and which is one of the reasons I bought the M4A-PRO in the first place (a perfectly cantered nub that's also a little wider than the Omega). Also fine hop adjustment feels like it should be substantially better, turning the wheel with your thumb it feels somehow tight to move but at the same time buttery smooth.

I've been trying to get my max 1.14J Double Eagle M904E to be the best it can be on 0.28g BBs, still have a snappy'ish trigger but try and surprise people with its range, and I was disappointed with the consistency / range from a ZCI plastic rotary hop unit so I've sold my soul to the devil... ... to try and get as consistent and light a hop as possible. The stock trigger spring snapped right at the end of my last game so I thought sod it, get a Maxx speed trigger and an M4A-PRO. I've already got a few Maxx nozzles so used a 21.25 with it, and Maxx do warn that your FPS may be a little higher, and I gained a good 15 or so FPS from it (going from around 290 to 305) so will go from the current M110 spring to an M105 which should make the gearbox and motor happy. So I'm happy, but know that probably 50% of other players think I'm now a twat ?

@RandomM_YT My nephew has the G&G Armament Combat Machine CM16 FFR A2 and I'd say for the year and half or so he's had it, and with it costing around £230 currently, I'd not buy one. It's been back to Patrol Base once, for either a faulty ETU or MOSFET, however they never said what the fault was but it came back working again. Generally considering the cost of one the weak points for me are the bang average geared hop unit, the fuse takes up masses of room in the buffer tube restricting battery space, the hand guard has unusually sized screws for mounting rails (no M-LOK etc.), and in general there are much better rifles from other brands for at least £50 less.

If V2, and I had the cash, I'd buy one of these for myself... https://www.ak2m4.co.uk/internal-parts/gearbox-shells/xt-cnc-v2-split-gearbox-shell ... as they're back in stock (but now they're back in stock I'm brassic).

DE hit a sweet spot with their M900's, they found a cost effective optical controller + piston + head (as soon as you see the light blue you know what it is) + V2 shell + gears and it's all put together very well, and they've milked it for all its worth and probably made good money from it (they've used their core gearbox build and put in every type of receiver / platform possible). However, under all this they're still a bargain basement Chinese toy manufacturer selling cheap things and fake Lego etc. Someone else can buy this first and be the guinea pig ?

Surprised no one's mentioned an AAP-01 as a sidearm, it matches the OP's criteria... # Good internals/externals: Over all yes, however regular full auto will shorted the hammers lifespan. # overall good pew: Yes # good fire rate: Yes # not too expensive: The price is great for such a good pistol ... and I run mine as a sidearm with a CTM holster and can't fault it at all (using 0.28g with an ML Autobot 60 degree).

I don't know what I'd do without the great parts on ak2m4 but, hmmm, not sure about this one ? I'd rather have one less take-away and get a GATE Titan, and there are things like this... https://eshooter-world.com/products/kestrel-v2 ... which Double Eagle are slapping into some of their AEG's.

More importantly how can you charge them considering the charger in the photos has a two pin EU plug ?

I've intentionally made some of your post bold, you're already running a pistol that will leave the WE Glock in the shade for accuracy and gas efficiency. Like you I run a 60 degree Autobot in my AAP-01 and it happily hops 0.28's and is more than good enough a side arm to my DMR and get hits when I need to get up close and can be accurate to 30m or so. My son has both an AAP-01 and WE EU17 G4, and yes the kick from the EU17 is lovely (although I've had to replace the blow back unit recently as it cracked, running Nuprol 3.0 probably doesn't help), but as a tool for flinging plastic balls at people the AAP-01 in my opinion leaves it in the dust. Personally I'd rather buy the CNC hop-up unit for the AAP-01 and be flinging heavier balls of plastic and giving people nasty surprises ?

I spent far too long evening after evening looking at all the various options, and finally decided on this and don't regret the purchase one bit, especially at only £60 (if they did a 5x one, if that would be possible, I'd snap that up as well).

So far they've been identical in performance for me. Before then my Li-Po's we're 20c, and I don't run anything crazy and only play now and again at full auto sites, but trigger response and RPS on a chrono has remained exactly the same. Personally I run Li-Io's now more as an insurance policy, to lessen the risk of damage and to cover my potential stupidity, and the split 3,000 11.1v just sits so well in my PTS EPS stocks.