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Try calling Fire Support, they usually have them but they don't show on their website for ummmm *reasons*

Just a quick note to say that airtac have adapted an armorer works drum mag to fit the mp7 so a lot less reloading!

Is that budget for the pew or to include batteries, mags, charger, eyepro etc too? It’s really easy to spend the same again on sundries and accessories and the recommendations will be different if we’re talking about a £200 pew rather than a £400 one.

On a different note, is the Jerusalem Post hiring proof readers? If not they should be

It's kinda all crips & bluds innit

#metoo

Nerd stuff, related to my pretend-space-soldier costume.  It's from a far future sci-fi setting predicated on absolute ideological zealotry, where the slightest digression from the approved narrative in deed or word or even suspected thought results in accusations of heresy and non-humanity.  So, nothing at all like the kind, gentle, nuanced and balanced political debate of CURRENT_YEAR.  

So, Suella Braverman for PM then? 

Absolute rule by the living corpse of a soul-consuming God-Emperor sat upon a golden throne. No debate needed, or indeed permitted.
 

And they’re both okay to show to people, but not before anyone asks. 😏

The thing is by doing that you're giving them the attention they want. 
 
Thinking about it I'd rather not see any political patches, whether they're to the left or the right, as I'm on site to shoot plastic at people not debate which form of government is best. Treat your political views like you treat your dick. They're both ok to have, they're ok to be proud of but what's not ok is forcing it down someone's throat.
 
As for finding something offensive, at the end of the day we all have a different place where we draw the line (I know I've got a dark sense of humour but there's certain things which piss me off). If you're going to start screaming at someone over something you don't like and demanding they remove it then IMO you look just as silly as them

I'm not entirely sure where our super-luxury personal indulgence toys fit into any 5 Year Plans. 🤔

All this talk of ww2 german uniforms has reminded me of something I overheard at a game last month. There was a someone playing in a vague attempt at a ww2 German loadout with a swastika on his helmet and double lightning bolt patches on his collar. While I thought it was a a bit silly, its what some other kid said that made me think WTF? While stood around waiting for the game briefing he called it a loadout of the bad guys from Call of Duty*. All I could think what are kids being taught in schools these days that they don't recognise symbols of a regime guilty of one of the worst acts of genocide in the past 100 years?
 
*I'm paraphrasing here as he sounded like someone had ordered Ali G from wish.com

Everyone at airsoft is usually a bit weird in one way or the other. I wouldn't ever take anything they say serious and I don't think sites should ever get involved in banning people for being stupid as long as they don't harass or threaten anyone. Wearing a Z patch anywhere in the UK is asking for trouble asking for a beating really. Its all our jobs to be mature adults and resolve disagreements through talking and with words. You can tell the type of people who spend too much time on the internet and probably have a mental disability and obviously we should try to not get too angry at them for being stupid AF. Airsoft is a cool sport and a lot of edgy internet individuals think its real war and have strong beliefs on issues they don't even understand. If I saw a guy wearing a Z patch I would probably ask him why he is wearing it, explain how insensitive that is to wear considering current events and then walk away. Its just as stupid as when you see grown adults getting angry at kids for not taking their hits and screaming, or people arguing over the game. Play the game, have fun and if you don't like something you see have a polite conversation and if its a real issue speak to a marshal.
 
The German uniform crowd are usually internet edgelords who root for the bad guys because they thinks its cool. Not as bad as wearing a Z patch but still very weird. Airsoft is full of weirdos I can be weird sometimes too lol.

Now that would be almost funny, swaggering cuntchops turns up at his local site sporting his controversial patches, coupla visiting Ukrainians give him a "lesson" in humility🤣
I'm usually the kinda guy that intervenes when shit kicks off, but I think that would definitely be a "stand back & eat popcorn" moment lol😏

A few years ago there was a site which was using shemaghs for team ID and one of the the shitrag papers (either the scum or the daily heil)got hold of photos. They claimed that players were cosplaying terrorists. I'll post links if I can find them

I’ve not seen stories just referring to ‘dressing as terrorists’
 
I have seen stories of terrorists that have played airsoft / paintball and the slant has been that it was ‘terrorist training/practice’ 
 

I've thought about this as I couldn't put my finger on exactly why it was bothering me, but I wouldn't say I'm offended by patches of any sort. 
 
I'd say I find it fucking embarrassing. Like, imagine someone from a tabloid or something seeing us playing with a couple of people wearing those, and we would all be tarred with the same brush. Realistically, it should be called out and sites should stamp it out. 
 
It's not that far fetched an idea, they've run stories at events moaning people were dressed as terrorists. That's people in jeans, a shirt and a shemagh with an ak. 
 
If public perception is that we are a bunch of far right wing A holes who have gun fetishes this hobby is on borrowed time. 
 
Especially with an inevitably incoming (and not soon enough) labour government. 
 
A proper impression is different and that's just nuance perhaps. 
 
 
 
 
 

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and everyone else is welcome to join as well if they wish
 
 
 

I often joke about the time my brother brought his German girlfriend to our dad's house to meet the family - including my recently wedded Japanese wife.
 
My dad's humorous reposte to my brother and I was:  "FFS will I ever get a daughter in law not part of the axis of evil?".
 
Thankfully the German lass wasn't within earshot, and SWMBO's English wouldn't have computed.
 
It was fecking funny at the time 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Seriously - Z patches ??????????
 
These types are highly attention seeking and pretty much deserve none of it
 
But, if we bear in mind that I live in Salisbury, around the corner from the Skripals, am a friend of the Sturgess family and have interacted with the troll defenders of Putin with their disgusting narratives ………… I would be providing a Z ‘player’ with attention via a considerable sense of humour failure
 
 
There is a time and a place 
 
At least with the SS it was in the region of 80 years ago …… and though taste can be questionable does align with the reenactment element of skirmishing
 
If a player wants any credibility to just playing airsoft re-enacting Russia in the Ukraine war then they ought to be removing all badges and claiming to be 2014 tourists on a trip

Z patches may genuinely upset someone and spoil their day.   It's an arsehole thing to do.   
 
If we're worried about dressing up as a force that has taken part in illegal wars of aggression, we'll have to start using Irish Rangers or Swiss reservist loadouts...
 
A few years ago, I got an ear full from a chap from SA.  He was angered by my wearing 'SWAPO' camo.  It was East German strichtarn as donated to said terrorists/liberation forces/communist baddies/peoples freedom army. 
 
Most kit has the potential to piss someone off.  Intentionally offending people trying to enjoy a fun day out is not on though.   

Interesting topic and viewpoints.
 
A big part of our hobby is dress-
up, let's face it. A bit like @Skullchewer above I'm into my spaceman patches and am definitely a walty Spartan/ODST/DoomGuy/Space Marine. I've seen all kinds of loadouts on the field, including very accurate RusFor (complete with Zs etc) and SS uniforms. None of which has offended me in the slightest. That kind of thing is not for me - I'm into my own personalised look rather than accurate impressions but that's just me. If someone wants to dress up as a "baddie" that's their bag. I'll just do my thing, they do theirs, and as long as we all play fairly and have fun that's all I care for.
 
Must admit, I do rather like the Space Shuttle Door Gunner patch above... definitely a worthy addition to my Space Marine Beefcake shoulder armour...
 
Eezer G

I had an interesting one pop up—a guy shows to my local field wearing full Russion kit and kaboodle.
 
He then starts claiming to have been in the first wave that invaded Ukraine. Speaks Russian, and makes a very convincing claim that he actually was in the first wave.
 
I have no clue on God’s green earth how he would’ve gotten all the way to Texas from Russia…
 
…but the field owner sure did kick him off whether he was pretending or not.

A few months ago a guy turned up in WW2 Nazi Germany soldiers loadout. Full on swastika on his belt and on other parts of his kit just no red armband. Problem for me is that it was a normal every day skirmish. I can understand maybe at a WW2 event but it just seems really odd and strange in my opinion to turn up like that and not feel embarrassed of even question yourself. To be fair I would like to see sites start adding regulations on this sort of thing. 

If you didn't earn it, don't wear it.