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They are factually correct …..
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10 minutes ago, Dan Robinson said:
When I was at university I went out with a hand model. (and yes her face was pretty too 😁).
You are in the presence of an international male model & TV star ……
A former new girlfriend was being grilled by her sister about me
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As above:
You as seller are responsible for sales.
A buyer of an IF/RIF airsoft gun must be aged 18
An IF is defined under the VCRA -( and yours does not meet that description.) You would need to paint it a bright colour, then could sell to any adult
Yours is a RIF. It’s ‘realistic’, therefore the VCRA legislation applies to sales and you could face a large fine etc if you sold irresponsibly.
You are required to reasonably verify the buyers intent to use the RIF to play airsoft skirmishing on insured sites - the standard method is the buyer can show that they are UKARA registered (that they went to the effort of documenting 3 games across a set period of time
Browse around the forum and interact as mentioned and you’ll get a fair idea of the needs
In addition to airsoft there are a couple of other valid uses such as reenactment, museums and film making - but beware of made up defences
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In this video there are what were the 3 common chronos in paintball back in the day:
Big red - professional site chrono …. Turn it on, shoot over it and it’s tough for bad aim
Little yellow - my first personal chrono. A bit of a pain as you have to press the button and then reset each shot. But it did the job
Grey X radar - my second personal chrono. No need to keep resetting, just hold the button and shoot as much as you like
A site version was/is also available, which you just turn on and can be mounted on a tripod or stand
But now I’ll use a Virtue Clock, which is point and shoot (it’s possible to chrono someone from a bit of a distance - which may not be the most accurate method but handy for marshalling in game before approaching to make a spot check)
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It’s also dependant on what chronograph you have access to and it’s capabilities
If it’s a chamber / tube style that you shoot though then it would be ‘very carefully’
If it’s one that your shoot over then that’s much easier
If you have to hold a button then many hands are required (unless you can tape it down), if it can be switched on and fired over without touching then it can be used with ease
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On 01/07/2023 at 18:37, Dac76 said:
Was hoping to mount it horizontally but as you say it could be awkward!
A thing to try would be to test mount it to your belt with elastic bands / tape / straps.
It’s doable to horizontally mount a bottle, but it could be intrusive. If it is compact such as a 13ci then it could be doable in the right spot
Back in the day I wanted a horizontal mounted bottle pouch on my vest, but at the time only vertical mounts were available and only limited options
For the type/size/colour I wanted there was only a drop leg vertical pouch (based on a drop leg holster)
So I bought that and cut it up, sewed on some MOLLE straps and then put it on the back of my vest across the shoulders
Anything lower would umcomfortably cut into my back
For a belt consider if you are going to lie down, sit down etc and whether the back of the belt is suitable - probably the longest ‘straight’ area of your waist, but uncomfortable to sit on a seat
Slightly to one side might work
Try just strapping a bottle to your belt in a few positions and see how it feels.
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1 hour ago, gavinkempsell said:
Just a wee question for those in the know... I never see an airsoft Franchi Spas12 with the iconic butt, is there a legal or other good reason why?
They do exist.
Its probably cost and that they need to be made well with ‘proper’ metal as the stock is hollow.
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3 hours ago, Dac76 said:
Hi
Ordered a deadly customs belt kit and was wondering if anyone runs a small tank off the belt.
looking to lighten the load and get rid of unnecessary kit.
if so what are you using to attach it to your rig?
cheers
Danny.
I used a pistol HPA setup for some games with a 13ci in a belt pouch. It was a generic pouch and I cut a hole in the top to close it over the regulator.
These can also be marketed as water bottle pouches or as ‘dedicated’ pouches available for 13ci & 48ci cylinders (often a general pouch with cross straps to tighten them, and there are also those which are just a grid of webbing strapsPay close attention to specific pouches for what kind of loop/straps are on the back, MOLLE straps can be used to set as a belt loop, but a horizontal pouch will be awkward on a belt
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4 hours ago, AirSniper said:
Its a starting kit for someone who wants to continue to go to airsoft. So I have to work out what they can afford and what the seller will accept because the parents know nothing of the costs involved.
Guns are an essential. It’s then a matter of which guns will suit them (and a sidearm isn’t essential to all players, so depends on site rules such as close up and if they will really switch rather than just end up carrying extra weight :G&G CM16 Raider (+NiMH battery)
WE EU27 pistol (+ 2 additional magazines)
Charger
They ultimately will need BBs, but do they need a starting bulk 15000? Presumably it’s a suitable brand weight that they will use with those guns. But in their package purchase it’s a consumable rather than added value:
About 15,000 bb's
Are the optics relevant to them? Will they actually use them? Would they choose and use that type/brand/magnification ?
Optics
Luggage is an essential, hard cases are better than bags, but dedicated cases can also end up meaning that you carry more separate things and find that you need a case for each gun plus a bag for the rest.Are they wanted / needed / desired one day ?
Hard Pistol case
Hard carry case (100cm)
A vest seems essential, something is needed to carry things in game. But will it be one they would choose/use, or one that they will take from the bundle just because it’s included ?
Carrier vest
Gloves are a wise thing to have and take care of fingers - but would they choose them and very importantly will they fit?
Gloves
Eye protection is essential. But even though I have numerous sets of goggles, including multiple sets of the same goggles in different colours (even a set in an obscure colour mix that I bought new and still painted for photography & marshaling)
There was a point in time that ‘last seasons’ colour schemes went on sale and were the same as or cheaper than new lenses
But they don’t need two to start with. Are they ones that they would choose ?
Are they in decent condiition? (Lens, straps where applicable
Full face masks (x2)
In a bundle, to the buyer anything that they would not choose to buy separately has a value of nothing
Anything the buyer would use today and replace shortly has some value, but diverts money from what they could be spending on something more preferred
People may not be too keen in airsoft, and full face is often for only those under 18 who are required to wear them before going for smaller glasses etc ……
But (especially with my background, accompanied by seeing BBs pass peoples ‘eye protection’) ……
I recommend paintball goggles, or at least ski mask style goggles
Good but entry level paintball goggles cost in the region of £20 - £30
‘Premium’ paintball goggles can be had for £60 to £100 (and of course more)
They need to be tried on to see how the fit is for anyone’s individual head.
I have some Valkn/Annex goggles which are the most basic plastic which I bought only for the colour scheme - they fit my head perfectly and are very confortable
My preferred goggles are VForce Grills which are a ‘premium’ and I have many sets, others have come out fetching higher prices but don’t suit my head as well
(there’s one other that fits me like a glove, but made it to prototype only so are not an option)
- Lozart, AirSniper and Cannonfodder
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If you want all of the stuff then offer what you’re willing to pay
If not then don’t.
He has the choice to sell partially or as a whole
A bundle is handy for a starter, but it’s never what they really want - like @tackle said - it’s a few ancilllary items that you may or may not use, potentially could sell or pass on items
But most of these things in bundles end up in the bottom of a bag or back of a cupboard
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1 hour ago, Pseudotectonic said:
, requirements for eye protection (probably required by insurance), and ……
One can argue any more regulation than that is not really necessary and is just going to limit the open-ended nature of the hobby.
Cue next thread drift….?
Is there a standard in airsoft eye protection?
Lens impact protection - yesUnder 18s full face protection - yes
On top of that - any adult can wear any style of glasses provided they are impact compliant.
Hands up everyone who has seen a BB end up inside the eye area of airsof glasses
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3 minutes ago, TacticalWaifu said:
I've done some research into this previously.
…..... but I know some folk will balk at the idea of "governing body" and worry about rules and regulations being force upon them from on high. In a practical sense I don't think that's necessary,
IMO a lot of things are covered by general good practice or UKARA anyway -- things like "accredited" sites having public liability insurance, potentially universal site FPS limits (or perhaps a "recommended" set, with sites ultimately being allowed to set their own within reason).
Absolutely
(edit …. I’ve read your interims but will still stick to back slapping each other with ‘absolutely a’
There is no one set of rules in paintball.
We have had the UKSPC (scenario paintball community) which is very much forgotten and I ran the first UKSPC compliant event, my rulesets were already in that ball park, and every event since has had them as the core ruleset
Even a few years ago an international tournament set the single tournament world ruleset - which had US rules and rest of world rules. (But it was by one US company so everyone got upset in the US)
What does matter is where you have highlighted: Standards
The basic safety standards, best practice, and complying with the law
It was paintballs standards that enabled UKPSF member sites to be recognised under the ministry announcement, Sport England endorsement and then a member site had the processes and paperwork to get clearance from their local council
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In the context of the UKAPU, airsoft needs something to represent it.
The ABA represented industry and brought in the UKARA
But that represents retailers and sites, with player membership
Does it or does it not represent the player? Which is where the UKAPU and perhaps others come in
In paintball the UKPSF represents all, but has a very long history that precedes the UKPSF, with the original UK body morphing into the European body and the UKPSF becoming a stand-alone - back then it was all one man
Active player membership has expanded, and now ticks the box on membership with Sport England
(Note that free membership didn’t qualify, but it was a steppingstone along the way)
Irrespective of what the UKAPU does or doesn’t do and how it is or isn’t recognised, it is something - and the attention it gets from players on threads like this does help the conversation and motivation
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The direction to take with MPs is not about a game of shooting people with gun like things.
But if businesses in the recreational sports sector are the tactic then that’s what gets more positive support among MPsOn 15/06/2023 at 11:10, Jacob Wright said:…..if Airsoft was registered as a sport (like paintball is), then we potentially could have returned sooner.
Paintball isn’t registered / recognised as a sport …… but Sport England did recognise it as meeting the criteria for reopening during covid.
Key to that was the UKPSF as a recognised body, and being known to Sport England - they are not pursuing sports recognition to be in the Olympics etc, but for other benefits and support from Sport England (and other UK sports bodies) and that it brings recognition with local councils etc
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It needs to be:
UK legal on the power (joules …. But measured via velocity FPS and BB weight)
Then either an IF or a RiF with a defence
IF = over 50% of the body in one of the appointed bright colours
RIF = you need to be recognised that your purpose on import is for it to be used for airsoft skirmishing
They expect UKARA, but you may or may not get through via your current status
- TacticalWaifu and EDcase
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5 hours ago, Lozart said:
(ahhh...The Mall....good times)
but it was always the same
- some that were happy to follow a bang through a door way
and a bunch of wusses gagglefucking outside.
Captain Teamkill shouting from the back to "move up" and going nowhere himself.
Pretty much all that's changed is the guns have got shorter and there's more kids in lycra.
….. and another type at a Mall doorway:
the faction leaders who wave at each other through the shop window to have an ‘alliance chat’, and the one who puts his gun down to stroll into the shop door
Then gets shot in the top of the head as he ducks below the line of fire, but the shooter at the doorway decides to shoot the unarmed man strolling in *
The opposing faction leader then apologizes “Sorry, I haven’t told him not to shoot you yet”and then distract players in the repeated afternoon safety brief with the blood dripping from my head …… “excuse me marshall, that guys head is bleeding”
* correct action strictly speaking which I cater for in my own event rules - if you don’t have your hand up then you’re a live player, and could be doing a sneaky move
- Tackle, Skullchewer and Lozart
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7 hours ago, Rogerborg said:
This looks to be more of a problem for paintball than airsoft now.
Definatley …… and is a headache for the UKPSF
I have a couple of Umarex pistols myself, which are variants of the home defence types but they are UK legal and are used with paintballs not dodgy projectiles
(purchased from reputable UK paintball retailers as opposed to grey imports)
These things are bringing the attention of VCRA/RIFs to paintball again, and we’re relying on a good Home Office / police relationship with the UKPSF
Read the letter of the law and I do have pre 2007 paintball RIFs of which possession is fine, plus post 2007 RIFs which could technically be a problem to retailers who sold them to me (and private sellers)
These are known issues which the UKPSF highlights & looks to protect the game
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31 minutes ago, joshyftw said:
Hi! I've got two weeks off work, and a lovely fresh email from UKARA.
I am looking to go out in the car and visit a handful of larger brick and mortar stores. I've been looking forward to getting my gear for a while now, and some retail therapy is in order.
I'm based in Northampton.
Does anyone have any suggestions for where to head? I don't mind driving an hour or two to get to a juicy cluster, but if I could get to 3 or 4 stores in a day and get some varied opinions and touch some stuff, that would be amazing.
Thanks in advance
I don’t think that you’re going to be finding a variety of shops to get into within a day. The market is small
I can recommend Super5ives (bearing in mind that I know the owner, and I also am partially to blame for encouraging some of his business decisions)
Their warehouse / shop is in Fareham which should be around 2 hours from you
https://shop.super5ives.com/shop/category/16-airsoft.p1.html
Otherwise I’d be pointing north with 3 or more hours of driving
Apparantly there’s an airsoft shop in Northampton, I have no knowledge of the place and it looks to a degree like an army surplus place which will have some airsoft
There is a retailer list on here,but do take care in ensuring that they are still in business and actually have a shop to go to before committing a trip
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4 hours ago, Emergencychimps said:
Both reference a ppq as well, both in Scotland and both called euan....this must be the same thing.
He said they came round and he told them he showed them his collection, they say they raided him with a warrant.
Euan89
Euan Davidson 33 years old
He hasn’t had this years birthday yet?
On the very likely situation that this is the same case, the UKPSFs player AGM recently went into more details on why they have brought in their change of stance on paintball and the VCRA (highlighted in last years player AGM
The import of home defence types of paintball guns, exceeding UK power limits and non paintball projectiles is coming to the attention of the UKPSF with all the relevant authorities clarifying specifics
There are UK legal ones and non legal ones
It would appear that Euans lawyer has given good advice and secured a lesser problem for Euan
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2 hours ago, Colin Allen said:
Speedsoft is a different game and should be treated as such.
That’s a key point - but speedsoft is a style of airsoft
Its up to sites as to what they have in their games.
A Milsim should not include speedsoft - but that does not exclude someone from being light and nimble.
(There was a real life battle case where a soldier (marine?) dropped his large pack and ran in and out through gunfire ….. speed-fighter)
If a skirmish site primarily runs a regular a local game for local players then the mix of players will be the locals, and they could be a mix of milsilms, dressing up, recreational fun, stacked up queues on the corner, speedsofters etc
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The overall article is hard to establish the relevant facts …….
But there appear to be two distinct ‘incidents’ :
1) of importing a RiF (assuming ‘air gun’ means airsoft gun) without a valid defence, an overpowered RIF/IF, or actually an air rifle (subject to a certificate in Scotland)
assuming that “UK air soft association” is meant to be UKARA which would back up his belief that it was a legal import, but other statements show that his intention was collection rather than playing
assuming that “member of various gun clubs” didn’t equate to turning up at an airsoft site to skirmishes
This incident resulted in a visit and confiscation of the import
Either importing a RIF and they were not happy with the defence, an overpowered RIF bit subject to the firearms act exemption or an air gun subject to a certificate in Scotland
Davidson pleaded guilty to attempting to import an air rifle into the UK on June 6, 2020.2) A second incident folllowing the reporting of possession of a firearm (PPK)
This appeared to have been claimed to be a ‘model pistol’, and has turned out to be an imitation
(RIF or replica? Either are legal, but certification is referenced. Was it an air pistol ?
He also admitted to possessing a handgun without holding the appropriate certification on February 18, 2021.His solicitors defence in court removes any RIF defence as collecting isn’t a valid purpose, but the primary intent of that legal defence being to show that his client wasn’t an intentional baddie and had assumed everything was legitimate:
Mr Smith said Davidson had used inheritance money to “accumulate the collection” and that he was “a collector and not a user”.
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It could be overkill, but the first import just resulted in it being refused entry and confiscated - which if it was a RIF is the ‘correct’ result for an imported RIF outside of the VCRA purposes / defences.
The second incident following the report of a firearm could be of course a malicious report, but could also be as a result of irresponsible ownership
Based on some other threads in recent months involving possession and the police the underlying question would be why they got involved
(the import is an obvious reason, and one poster on here has had the police turn up as a result of importing but had a different outcome even though the individuals wider collection was revealed - valid use etc)
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There is the turnover factor - there’s a natural cycle of churn.
People give up or take a life break ….. and there may or may not be new generations to take over, who may also be going for a different flavour
As mentioned above there’s the difference between YouTube playing, regular fun playing and the occasional ad hoc once in a while
Post Covid there are different life decisions being made, cost of living affects people etc
But also there are those less effected by the cost of living. If you’re a teen with a part time job, small or no rent and no bills other than how you choose to spend the disposable money is still your choice
If you’re more affluent then your crisis might be whether or not to cut back on a couple of Proseccos
If you don’t have money then you can’t spend it
If you have money and need to spend it wisely, you might cut back on a few things, buy cheaper alternatives but have the need for some relief - which might mean a monthly game of shooting people instead of a weekly game, or one or two of your favourite games a year
Personally I didn’t do badly under covid, I still worked, didn’t have commuting expenses and now I have partial commuting expenses
I shopped, bought shiney things from businesses to support them and still have not got back into a game.
I have down my alerts for particular games that are an absolute must (Which are likely to be still not happening this year) plus an emergency contingency game penciled in to secure my need to shoot people
Its not necessarily the money, but it’s the experience - there are games that won’t scratch the itch and when I take the time away from the rest of my life activities I want to enjoy it to the best
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10 hours ago, RostokMcSpoons said:
Bastard Hermes have fucked up the delivery of my desert boots: it seems my eBay order failed to get delivered to the local convenience store I was going to pick them up from, so they're probably wending their merry way back to the seller by now, and I won't have them in time for Saturday.
Arse.
I had that issue once with a eBay seller who sent with handwritten labels but didn’t put in the long reference number on the label (because it was ‘fine’ with just the name and address)
But for a collection point they cannot accept with just name & address, the reference number is needed for them to process in the system
There was an additional issue that the garage being used was on a corner and didn’t exist at the postcode - the usual delivery driver knew where to go but stand-ins ‘couldn’t find it’
I therefore had tracking that said ‘location not found’ on the first attempt and ‘recipient refused’ on the second
The reference for delivery point acceptance may be the case for you, alternatively if they operate a cabinet delivery point if too many are received on that day then the cabinet may be full or only small cabinets remained
The 'How Did Your Airsoft Day Go? Thread
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Just to add to the mix
AEG airsoft guns use HPA to propel the ball
The electric motor etc compresses some air in a piston - at the operating pressure of the piston, and the piston then propels the BB
An HPA airsoft gun takes a high pressure cylinder which can hold up to 3000psi/4500psi and outputs via its own regulator of something hundred PSI, then via an inline regulator drops to a lower operating pressure which then feeds the piston
All of these points with pressurised air are a level of high pressure air