Anyone regretted moving to a GBBR?

[sjhirst]

Don't regret it at all.

I also used to hpa all my gbbr's (not by an adaptor, but making my own dual stack mags) but have now given all that up and gone just gas.

I have a saiga 12k, AA G36 and now a ghm9. Ill eventually get an aeg for those really cold days, but nothing has got my attention more than another GBB! lol

Edited Tuesday at 11:44 by sjhirst

[TheFull9]

If the way you mostly enjoy the game is going for the objectives and trying to win, then a gun with comparatively tiny mag capacity and a more significant logistical train won't help.  But if you just enjoy being out and pew pewing at folks and everything else be damned, then the more realistic gun will add a lot to that (though maybe not so much in the winter..)

 

Looking at your specific personal situation, I don't think 1 AEG and 1 GBBR is necessarily the best move.  To me, that's a lot of extra shizzle to cart along to every game with mags and power sources not being compatible between your 2 guns.  Some people will find that totally worth it of course.

 

The pendulum has massively swung on the whole GBB rifle thing of course and right now it's all the way on the gas side, but I think 2 decent AEGs makes the most sense for playing this game, a base line as it were.  Especially if said 2 RIFs can share mags, batteries and BBs.  

[Decp369]

Gas is for the elite players 😂🤙🏽. I got a MWS & it’s epic. You pick your shots & don’t waste ammo. Makes getting kills much more satisfying. I run 5 mags & that seems to be plenty. I’ve done the gas mag mod so they hold more gas now & carry a speed loader to top them when I respawn. For a MWS you need a couple of upgrades that aren’t that expensive. 
 

downside is the mag cost & cold weather. Looking at £50 a mag 🥴. I’d recommend getting some spare parts 

 

the nozzles is the main issue on them. You can buy a new drop in nozzle as a spare so if you run into any issues just swap it out. 
 

Just got a TM MP7 so going to be using that next game day cannot wait !

 

[Nick G]

Gas Gas Gas ! I pretty much only run GBBR's now. I took my aeg AK to the last game day and even ran it for a game, but it just felt so 'Meh' compared to the gas ones. 

 

Mine are a mix of brands, I have several WE's and a couple of VFC's ( there is a DE Noveske under the tree for tomorrow) . I never feel out gunned, just adjust play style to suit and then double tap the spray and pray bunch . I generally run 5 or 6 mags and a speed loader for a game. 2 plus BB lodas to a gas fill gives me between 300 and 400 rounds which is ample. Heavier BBs work well on GBBRs, I run .30's for a good compromise on weight and cost, but they will all happily run heavier. 

 

Playing in cold weather just requires good mag management to keep them warm.  I use green or red gas in them depending on temperature, although the VFC M249 now runs pretty much exclusivly on CO2 .

 

Maintenence wise , they are simple to work on and it's usually just a strip , lube and barrel clean after a game day.  

 

Mine have all proved completely reliable , I cant remember having a failure that wasn't my own fault. 

 

No AEG will ever offer the level of imersion that a GBBR does, but you have to want that play style.

[Reef]

@Nick G that’s a glowing recommendation.

 

I think I’m sold on getting one and giving it a go.   

 

 

[Anonymoose]

5 hours ago, Decp369 said:

Gas is for the elite players 😂🤙🏽

 

No it's not - i have gas guns and i'm a shit player.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

😂

[ButcherBill]

1 hour ago, Anonymoose said:

 

No it's not - i have gas guns and i'm a shit player.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

😂

Aye, but elite shit...

[Decp369]

😂😂 yes took the words out my mouth. You can always look down your nose at the electric noobs when you’re in the gas gang 🤙🏽

[ButcherBill]

8 hours ago, Decp369 said:

You can always look down your nose at the electric noobs when you’re in the gas gang

Hmmm...

 

We're all one team (oh wait, we're airsofters)

We're two teams (oh wait)

We're dozens of individuals with the same objective (oh wait)

We're dozens of individuals with our own objectives (that's better).

[Anonymoose]

16 minutes ago, ButcherBill said:

We're dozens of individuals with our own objectives (that's better).

 

I am 100% there just to shoot people.

 

(My memory/attention span doesn't last long enough for the game briefing.)

Edited Wednesday at 22:17 by Anonymoose

[EvilMonkee]

Nope, never.  Trouble is, like AEGs, GBBRs are prone to people fiddling with them. Leave em alone till they go wrong.  TM GBBRs are excellent straight out of the box.

[Tackle]

16 minutes ago, EvilMonkee said:

Nope, never.  Trouble is, like AEGs, GBBRs are prone to people fiddling with them. Leave em alone till they go wrong.  TM GBBRs are excellent straight out of the box.

Don't you love those noob posts, "just ordered my first gun, play my first game next week, what upgrades should I get"

🤦‍♂️🤣

[Anonymoose]

5 minutes ago, Tackle said:

Don't you love those noob posts, "just ordered my first gun, play my first game next week, what upgrades should I get"

🤦‍♂️🤣

 

I'm terrible for this, i modify everything. I just don't ask for input before i dive into it..

 

My guns have all either been modified, or are waiting for parts. Even stuff that you can't really modify ends up at the sharp end of the lathe or mill.

 

When i worked at the AA i was always getting in trouble for modifying my equipment. Everything from my van to my battery tester and even my hi-vis..

[TheFull9]

9 hours ago, Tackle said:

Don't you love those noob posts, "just ordered my first gun, play my first game next week, what upgrades should I get"

🤦‍♂️🤣

 

Question for me is, why do people come in to the game and end up thinking that?  I'd say it's a combo of social media influenzas and the good old phenomena of retailers marking their spare parts section as 'Upgrades' when it should actually say 'Sidegrades and/or downgrade after you've messed with your gun'.

[Impulse]

Oh I'm guilty as well, but the only gun (out of literally dozens I've tinkered with) I've made worse by my tinkering also happened to be my most expensive build in my MTW, and I'm still salty about that being the one that decided to buck the trend; I've sent it off to get essentially factory reset and will be a lot more careful this time around.

 

However I will agree. For what most people want their guns to do and how well most guns perform out of the box nowadays, there isn't much need to upgrade anyway. Only reason I tweaked my MWS setups was because one is a DMR and the others I wanted to use .32s as that's my go-to 1.1J weight (and owning 3 MWSs I'm pretty good on tweaking them...), but out of the box on .28s they perform pretty well and shouldn't run hot unless you put gas in them that will cause the parts to shatter anyway.

[Anonymoose]

1 hour ago, TheFull9 said:

 

Question for me is, why do people come in to the game and end up thinking that?  I'd say it's a combo of social media influenzas and the good old phenomena of retailers marking their spare parts section as 'Upgrades' when it should actually say 'Sidegrades and/or downgrade after you've messed with your gun'.

 

People think that a better* gun will make them a better player i guess.

 

Like most things, the gun's capability usually exceeds the shooter's ability.

 

 

*better in theory anyway.

[Tommikka]

14 hours ago, Anonymoose said:

 

I am 100% there just to shoot people.

 

It took me about a decade to realise the opposite - I’m there to get shot

 

My preferred world is scenario paintball, but I had already worked out that I was getting as much or more fun running events (both paintball & airsoft) and watching people work out ways to play my missions, but it took until I was photographing tournaments that I didn’t actually care what flavour it was or what I was doing on field but that it was the being there in the middle of a game and the chances of being shot.

Being an official event photographer was pretty much the best - I didn’t need to take my hits and could choose where I go to hunt the shots. 

[Tackle]

4 hours ago, Impulse said:

Oh I'm guilty as well, but the only gun (out of literally dozens I've tinkered with) I've made worse by my tinkering also happened to be my most expensive build in my MTW, and I'm still salty about that being the one that decided to buck the trend; I've sent it off to get essentially factory reset and will be a lot more careful this time around.

 

However I will agree. For what most people want their guns to do and how well most guns perform out of the box nowadays, there isn't much need to upgrade anyway. Only reason I tweaked my MWS setups was because one is a DMR and the others I wanted to use .32s as that's my go-to 1.1J weight (and owning 3 MWSs I'm pretty good on tweaking them...), but out of the box on .28s they perform pretty well and shouldn't run hot unless you put gas in them that will cause the parts to shatter anyway.

I'm a big believer in when it comes to quality products, tm guns & Honda cars & bikes for example, great products with excellent r&d, they need to be left alone until something actually breaks.

They invest a LOT in getting it right, who are we to think we can improve that ??????🤔

[Anonymoose]

21 hours ago, Tackle said:

I'm a big believer in when it comes to quality products, tm guns & Honda cars & bikes for example, great products with excellent r&d, they need to be left alone until something actually breaks.

They invest a LOT in getting it right, who are we to think we can improve that ??????🤔

 

When i bought my two TM NGRSs i looked at the upgrade stuff available. The general consensus seems to be that once they're messed with internally the reliability goes out the window. I've opted for just barrel & bucking upgrades, they shoot so damn well out the box there doesn't seem (to me) much need to mess with anything else.

[Rory]

On 26/12/2024 at 12:54, Tommikka said:

It took me about a decade to realise the opposite - I’m there to get shot

 

My preferred world is scenario paintball, but I had already worked out that I was getting as much or more fun running events (both paintball & airsoft) and watching people work out ways to play my missions, but it took until I was photographing tournaments that I didn’t actually care what flavour it was or what I was doing on field but that it was the being there in the middle of a game and the chances of being shot.

Being an official event photographer was pretty much the best - I didn’t need to take my hits and could choose where I go to hunt the shots. 

I was the same for a while, marshalling paintball and airsoft meant I saw some excellent scenarios, but I realised I don’t mind getting pinged, it was fine as long as everyone in the stramash was playing fair.

Ive adapted the same now when I get a chance to play, I don’t shit the bed if I get hit straight off the bat,  nor do I get a stiffy  if I get a run on the opposite team during play.

Marshalling/watching/standing back allows you to see how a game flows, if it works and ultimately how to hopefully win it, if you get involved 😉