Supporters Adolf Hamster Posted April 16, 2021 Supporters Share Posted April 16, 2021 12 minutes ago, Impulse said: I'm looking at my HPA VSR and wondering how it's so bad. Sure, it's really quiet and the bolt pull is effortless, but getting a high ROF out of it is proving to be quite the challenge. What am I doing wrong? you're meant to chrono it at 2.5j on .2g, then put .5g bb's in it joule creeping up to 3.5j, then adjust the reg after chrono to get you to 4.8j and only engage inside MED because everyone that runs hpa does those things dontyaknow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartan09 Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 i have to say i agree that there is no need for a gun to have a mini-gun level ROF (unless its actually a mini-gun) regardless of HPA/AEG etc... that said, banning HPA is the wrong way to sort the issue... my tippmann is HPA, and while i can turn up the ROF, i abide by the number 1 rule in airsoft (dont be a dick) and leave the ROF at a realistic level. i have no idea how high i can turn it up, nor do i have any intentionof finding out. as has been said above, the issue isnt the kit, its the dick using a high ROF HPA setup to hose someone. the only way (i believe) to resolve the issue is to have chrono stations also check the ROF on HPA and DSG guns and having a ban on binary triggers that allow people to bypass single shot limits, especially at CQB sites where they are often implemented for safety or game balance reasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDcase Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 19 minutes ago, Spartan09 said: i have to say i agree that there is no need for a gun to have a mini-gun level ROF (unless its actually a mini-gun) regardless of HPA/AEG etc... that said, banning HPA is the wrong way to sort the issue... my tippmann is HPA, and while i can turn up the ROF, i abide by the number 1 rule in airsoft (dont be a dick) and leave the ROF at a realistic level. i have no idea how high i can turn it up, nor do i have any intentionof finding out. as has been said above, the issue isnt the kit, its the dick using a high ROF HPA setup to hose someone. the only way (i believe) to resolve the issue is to have chrono stations also check the ROF on HPA and DSG guns and having a ban on binary triggers that allow people to bypass single shot limits, especially at CQB sites where they are often implemented for safety or game balance reasons What he said 👆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alxndrhll Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 I'd also say, @Skara aside, this forum isn't really the place the moan about folks being clowns with their RIFs. And Skara is far enough away that we don't have deal with his 'you're all pussies' antics on the field . Folks that tend to frequent here all sing from the same hymn sheet in the grand scheme of 'twats are twats, and will be twats with whatever toy they're using'. More than within your right to find the hose and tank harms your personal immersion, but enforcing your preference on others only serves to put further barriers on what is already niche hobby. That latter of those statements doesn't exist to devalue your opinion, it simply runs parallel to it. It's a shame your work around is to limit the sites you attend, but I'm glad you've seemingly found a 'solution' that works for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Adolf Hamster Posted April 16, 2021 Supporters Share Posted April 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, Spartan09 said: ban on binary triggers can't speak for the other brands, but the polarstar fcu doesn't have a facility for a binary trigger. it does however have a facility for limiting the semi-auto rate of fire...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Druid799 Posted April 16, 2021 Supporters Share Posted April 16, 2021 Just saying ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDcase Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 What else do we have to talk/moan about? 😏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Adolf Hamster Posted April 16, 2021 Supporters Share Posted April 16, 2021 10 minutes ago, Druid799 said: Just saying ? you are right of course. but it's fun to have a rant every now and then, and if we clear up some misconceptions while we're at it then that's worth the while? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDcase Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 What misconceptions ???? 🤨 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Adolf Hamster Posted April 16, 2021 Supporters Share Posted April 16, 2021 16 minutes ago, EDcase said: What misconceptions ???? 🤨 for starters that hpa's have binary triggers, can't account wolverine and redline solenoid systems but the mechanical and polarstar systems don't. also that all hpa users are cnuts, because they aren't...... to add to the list lets address the 3 main arguments that tend to get levied against hpa: high rof- just have an rof site limit- the hpa guys can turn their guns down, not so easy for a dsg build without a fancy mosfet...... joule creep- chrono on joules, gbbr's and heavy piston'd boltys have the same problem, also if i had a penny for every site that didn't chrono green gas pistols....... reg twiddling- a lot of hpa regs can be tournament locked, the qc spring on a scorpion evo (other qc spring guns are available) can't, jus' sayin....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane0040 Posted April 16, 2021 Author Share Posted April 16, 2021 It is true that all types of players can be dickheads , in my experience how ever most have a dangly lead and a compressed air container Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkman Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Well in my experience I've only come across one or two dickheads...using HPA. Now ARP9 users, i've come across quite a few of those acting like dickheads as well...should we ban ARP9's? just saying... (few of my mates run ARP9's..and they ain't dicks) We get it... You don't like HPA users, but why complain about it on a forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Druid799 Posted April 16, 2021 Supporters Share Posted April 16, 2021 14 minutes ago, Monkman said: Well in my experience I've only come across one or two dickheads...using HPA. Now ARP9 users, i've come across quite a few of those acting like dickheads as well...should we ban ARP9's? just saying... (few of my mates run ARP9's..and they ain't dicks) We get it... You don't like HPA users, but why complain about it on a forum? Please see my previous post for an answer ? 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Druid799 Posted April 16, 2021 Supporters Share Posted April 16, 2021 Evolution of the HPA player ; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cannonfodder Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 You do realise that dickish behaviour is caused by the flesh coloured squishy bit, rather than whatever powers the rif? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skara Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 10 hours ago, alxndrhll said: I'd also say, @Skara aside, this forum isn't really the place the moan about folks being clowns with their RIFs. And Skara is far enough away that we don't have deal with his 'you're all pussies' antics on the field . I might be lying about being in Italy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Druid799 Posted April 17, 2021 Supporters Share Posted April 17, 2021 15 hours ago, Adolf Hamster said: for starters that hpa's have binary triggers If there not binary triggers then are they trans triggers ? 🤔 asking for a confused friend . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kai Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 bunch of cry babys go fucking play milsim you fags 🤣 we run round with toy guns and shoot each other, get a life 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skara Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 Wow someone's salty uh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Adolf Hamster Posted April 17, 2021 Supporters Share Posted April 17, 2021 6 hours ago, Druid799 said: If there not binary triggers then are they trans triggers ? 🤔 asking for a confused friend . isn't that most triggers are non-binary aka trans? and of course bullpup triggers are gender fluid, unless they're 2-stage which is bisexual i think. i mean i lost the track of this somewhere around 2011..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Druid799 Posted April 17, 2021 Supporters Share Posted April 17, 2021 38 minutes ago, Adolf Hamster said: isn't that most triggers are non-binary aka trans? and of course bullpup triggers are gender fluid, unless they're 2-stage which is bisexual i think. i mean i lost the track of this somewhere around 2011..... I always thought ‘Gender fluid’ referred to what makes babies , I’m not so sure now ?😳 47 minutes ago, Kai said: bunch of cry babys go fucking play milsim you fags 🤣 we run round with toy guns and shoot each other, get a life 🤣 Ahh yes this old nut shell ! It’s up there with “man up !” And “necro post !” Two of the oldest and stalest retorts in the sport ! 🤦♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Adolf Hamster Posted April 17, 2021 Supporters Share Posted April 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, Druid799 said: I always thought ‘Gender fluid’ referred to what makes babies , I’m not so sure now ?😳 i think it means you're either a male, female, both, or neither depending on how you feel at any given moment. but then my source for this was trolling the character creation in south park tfbh so probably mildly innaccurate..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamal Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Kai said: bunch of cry babys go fucking play milsim you fags 🤣 we run round with toy guns and shoot each other, get a life 🤣 Wot? Have I missed something? Typical. Go off for a days fun and come back and all hells broken loose lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Druid799 Posted April 17, 2021 Supporters Share Posted April 17, 2021 38 minutes ago, Adolf Hamster said: i think it means you're either a male, female, both, or neither depending on how you feel at any given moment. Was being facetious !🤦♂️🤣🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alxndrhll Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 I dare say it's safe to say this thread has run its course, before we start (or continue) to dip into offending people (be that intentionally, or unintentionally). More than happy to get flamed to kingdom come for it, but I don't think the sexuality/gender/indentification is particularly appropriate. If you're genuinely confused by it, there are plenty of great resources to become better informed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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