THE FNG Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 20 minutes ago, Shizbazki said: @Marco I'll be honest, whilst looking at RIFs is a perfectly innocent thing to do and looking..... +1 for everything you said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Posted November 8, 2018 Author Share Posted November 8, 2018 @KendoKhan @Shizbazki yes I learnt my lesson about looking at RIFs on public transport. Yes I agree about the best thing in this situations is to be polite and comply. This made things easy for me and the issue was dealt in a matter of minutes (however I missed the train). Thanks for the advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted November 8, 2018 Supporters Share Posted November 8, 2018 6 hours ago, Shizbazki said: And and top tip to anyone if you get pulled or stopped by police PASS THE ATTITUDE TEST! No matter if it's about RIFs, traffic stops, stop and searches etc. Yeah, but no. I have a great deal of respect for the important, thankless job that beat and response coppers do, and would cheerfully work with them by default. Traffic can get fucked though. I've never met one who wasn't a professional angry-man, and I consider them to be little better than highwaymen. The House of Lords has agreed with that position since 1907. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albiscuit Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 3 hours ago, Marco said: @KendoKhan @Shizbazki yes I learnt my lesson about looking at RIFs on public transport. Just another stupid ass by product of the state of the world we are living in though to be honest.. I dont see someone watching Dr Who in their Iphone and think OMG a time travveorZ!!! Or think someone watching a war movie or such is watching terrorist training videos. All this be vigilant bullshit, getting people to spy on each other and look over our shoulders for the bad guys is a waste of time IMO. Exactly as someone said, you could have been rubbing a raging hard on through your jeans to pornhub and someone may had moved seats away from you with nothing being said. Read this place on your mobile and cops get called WTF!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Tackle Posted November 8, 2018 Moderators Share Posted November 8, 2018 I'm with Rog on this, it is a thankless job, I'd be doing it now but for a poxy bike rta that wrecked my back halfway through my intake, & THE ATTITUDE TEST is a real thing, irrespective of what you've been stopped for, a polite smiling face with a helpful attitude will get you out of the shit 99% of the time (even with "Traffic"), good example, friend of mine is a skipper in sc019, we got stopped on our bikes by a traffic bike (he'd "chased" us at high speed for at least 5 miles), & was able to cite at least 3 offences that were license threatening, he then inspected the bikes pointing out exhaust & number plate infringements, while asking us where we were headed (Box Hill, Surrey). It ended with him telling us to ride safe & to avoid Box Hill as he was meeting colleagues there & they were having a purge on bikers following complaints. At no point did my mate mention he was "job", no PNC was run & no documents shown, just shows what being polite & cooperative can achieve While I know what Marco faced had the potential for escalating in a much more serious direction, kudos to him, he did the right thing, & maybe educated the officers on another aspect regarding rifs etc, surprising how many plod still don't know a great deal about our "sport", & the toys we play with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofsammo Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 Just as an aside - I wonder if reading gun mart, or any other gun mag would have had the coppers called on you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshOnSnow Posted November 8, 2018 Share Posted November 8, 2018 23 hours ago, Marco said: I assume if I had said no they would have escalated the procedures e.g arrest or stop and search. Can you actually say no to the police? I’m used to the Italian police they would have kicked the s##t out of me if I had not complied but the British Police (thank god) is more civilised. It was likely British Transport Police. There would be no grounds for stop and search. You are perfectly entitled to respectfully decline to answer questions, however if you are under caution, this may be a detriment to you down the line if you choose not to explain your innocence. I've read G&A on trains, I've not had anything but the occasional odd look. Then again, I do live rural and the sounds of shotguns across the fields here is pretty much an every day occurrence. Plus, my G&A subscription is with WHSmith. Hardly cloak and daggers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Posted November 10, 2018 Author Share Posted November 10, 2018 On 08/11/2018 at 11:16, Tackle said: ... & maybe educated the officers on another aspect regarding rifs etc, surprising how many plod still don't know a great deal about our "sport", & the toys we play with. Yes, while they knew, what a BB gun is they were not aware of the "airsoft sport". I also explained them I have a valid defence and I was entitled to buy non two tone RIFs. However they didn't know about the "defence"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Samurai Posted November 10, 2018 Supporters Share Posted November 10, 2018 Should have said licence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted November 11, 2018 Supporters Share Posted November 11, 2018 Lulz aside, you probably should have said licence. I've already decided that I'll refer to my UKARA number as a licence if it comes up, in the same way that FPN blackmail demands are now habitually referred to as "fines" even by the police. They lie, I lie. If any of our serving coppers happen to have a recent copy of Blackstones Volume 1 available, it would be handy to look at section 1.7 Firearms and Gun Crime. Whatever it says there about imitation firearms - if anything - will be the absolute most that a Sergeant or above could reasonably be expected to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KendoKhan Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 5 hours ago, Rogerborg said: Lulz aside, you probably should have said licence. I've already decided that I'll refer to my UKARA number as a licence if it comes up, in the same way that FPN blackmail demands are now habitually referred to as "fines" even by the police. They lie, I lie. If any of our serving coppers happen to have a recent copy of Blackstones Volume 1 available, it would be handy to look at section 1.7 Firearms and Gun Crime. Whatever it says there about imitation firearms - if anything - will be the absolute most that a Sergeant or above could reasonably be expected to know. The only time you read Blackstones is during your phase 2, after that it's just an expensive coaster. 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted November 11, 2018 Supporters Share Posted November 11, 2018 2 hours ago, KendoKhan said: The only time you read Blackstones is during your phase 2, after that it's just an expensive coaster Well, lift that mug and tell us what it says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KendoKhan Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Rogerborg said: Well, lift that mug and tell us what it says. Will do mate as soon as I get home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Shizbazki Posted November 11, 2018 Supporters Share Posted November 11, 2018 3 hours ago, KendoKhan said: The only time you read Blackstones is during your phase 2, after that it's just an expensive coaster. 😂 Its just an expensive coaster full stop. I have never touched a full ream thick copy of Blackstones in 10 years. Though i do carry a pocket handbook version just in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkee Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Ex copper here - can only echo what everyone else has said - no right to stop you or search you. As others have said I agree it was probably some half educated copper looking to cover his own arse that he had adequately covered off the call with control. On a separate subject there appear to be a few of us on the forums here - room for a cop themed affiliated team maybe LOL? .Ex Notts - City Centre - left 2008 to join the RAF as an RAF Police officer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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