Popular Post GiantKiwi Posted July 18 Popular Post Posted July 18 Wanted to make my WE Scar H mags look kinda like Lancer L7AWM’s - found a guy on Reddit who had previously talked about working on one, and got involved with testing it (and suggesting changes/improvements). After about 50 hours total of printing I’ve now got 7 of these done successfully. ButcherBill, PopRocket123, Cocha and 2 others 5
casual-player Posted July 22 Posted July 22 On 13/07/2025 at 19:49, Jez_Armstrong said: What have I just 3d printed? This ? What law says about custom 3d printed airsoft guns? I would like print one at some point, but I am afraid that police - in case of random control - might not like it at all!
Tommikka Posted July 22 Posted July 22 1 hour ago, casual-player said: What law says about custom 3d printed airsoft guns? Not a lot - as long as the functional elements of the design is for airsoft, and is UK compliant then airsoft has a convenient clause exempting from firearms legislation (so it’s not a low powered air weapon / air gun - which are legal but are under firearms legislation) 1 hour ago, casual-player said: I would like print one at some point, but I am afraid that police - in case of random control - might not like it at all! Dont be a dick with it and you should not find out what they think The legislation that would apply would be the VCRA - if it is not clear nor in the specified bright colours then you would be manufacturing a RIF The manufacturer is responsible, but you won’t need to prove your use to yourself so UKARA membership would not be a requirement Make it for airsoft and as long as you are old enough then you are legal Finally …. Are you capable of doing so? It would make sense if you are making a body for standard internals to go in - and it has been designed by someone with the knowledge / skills to do so Or if printing specific parts to modify an existing two tone etc, then the VCRA still applies - but you as the modifier are the responsible person. The original VCR draft had a specific offence of modifying an IF to a RIF no applicable defence, but the final legislation can be read to include the defences - so only do so for airsoft purposes
Lyndication Posted July 22 Posted July 22 1 hour ago, casual-player said: What law says about custom 3d printed airsoft guns? I would like print one at some point, but I am afraid that police - in case of random control - might not like it at all! 99% of the time it's just a shell to slap a standard gearbox into. Very, very few people are 3D printing the working parts. Tommikka 1
EDcase Posted July 22 Posted July 22 I would say its impossible to 3d print an entire working airsoft mechanism so yeah, shell bits around existing components would be fine.
Lyndication Posted July 22 Posted July 22 There's this one Japanese guy who 3D prints different MWS GBB guns. Petty incredible, but it's all running deliberately gently
mightyjebus Posted September 24 Posted September 24 early work in progress of a replacement top slide for the TM FN FNX 45. Externals are basic as I'm more interested in getting the internals sorted first. Might make a Glock style upper for shits & giggles once it's a working prototype. BigStew, HZR13, PopRocket123 and 1 other 4
Popular Post mightyjebus Posted September 25 Popular Post Posted September 25 did a bit more work on the FNX slide. Still got a bit to do but getting there. (original broken TM slide at the top) HZR13, MSSNAFU, Enid_Puceflange and 3 others 6
BigAl Posted September 26 Posted September 26 3D printing an airsoft gun would not be illegal. However if they are black or other realistic colour assembling gun would be manufacture of a RIF you would need a defence. If it is a conversion kit going on an already existing RIF then that does not need a defence. Tackle and Cannonfodder 1 1
BigStew Posted September 26 Posted September 26 13 hours ago, BigAl said: 3D printing an airsoft gun would not be illegal. However if they are black or other realistic colour assembling gun would be manufacture of a RIF you would need a defence. If it is a conversion kit going on an already existing RIF then that does not need a defence. Had this discussion on Reddit. Surely that is still manufacturing if you are dismantling a RIF and reassembling it as a different RIF?
Lyndication Posted September 26 Posted September 26 It's kind of irrelevant given that "yeah I play Airsoft and this is an Airsoft gun" is a legal defence. MSSNAFU 1
BigAl Posted yesterday at 17:45 Posted yesterday at 17:45 On 26/09/2025 at 14:59, BigStew said: Had this discussion on Reddit. Surely that is still manufacturing if you are dismantling a RIF and reassembling it as a different RIF? No your not creating a RIF, it already was a RIF. HZR13 and Cannonfodder 2
Tommikka Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago (edited) The VCRA section 36.1 and 36.2 cover: 36. Manufacture, import and sale of realistic imitation firearms (1)A person is guilty of an offence if— (a)he manufactures a realistic imitation firearm; (b)he modifies an imitation firearm so that it becomes a realistic imitation firearm; (c)he sells a realistic imitation firearm; or (d)he brings a realistic imitation firearm into Great Britain or causes one to be brought into Great Britain. 36.2 Subsection (1) has effect subject to the defences in section 37. 36.1a is about the manufacture - if 3D printing parts to modify then 36.1a does not apply. If making a new RIF then 36.1a does apply 36.1b is about modifying an IF into a RIF, therefore if it already is a RIF then 36.1b does not apply 36.2 highlights that there are defences to all parts of 36.1. I’m not bothering to quote the defences, but the core VCRA defences plus the additional statutory instrument airsoft skirmisher defence apply to all parts of 36.1 - manufacture, modification, sale, import For 36.1c the seller is liable, so a good seller will want some form of documented defence, and for 36.1d the courier/customs want to be convinced by a documented defence For 36.1b and 36.1d the individual acting may be the ultimate user or may be doing so on behalf of the ultimate user. If the latter they may need to think about some documentation. (Eg if you submit 3D files to a 3D printing service provider - though they may have no idea about the VCRA) If you are the individual manufacturing / modifying then it’s all down to you ….. ….. when we look at what the defences are (I still can’t be bothered to copy/paste to quote them) - the airsoft skirmisher defence does not state the original 2006 proposal nor the UKARA 3 game requirement. If you manufacture a RIF or modify an IF into a RIF for the purpose of being a chav, then you’re committing a VCRA offence, if you intend to play the game of airsoft skirmishing on an insured site then that intent is your defence and you know whether or not that is your intent Don’t be a dick after manufacturing / modifying and you won’t have to prove your intent in court Though of course - if you are modifying a RIF into a RIF then there is no offence **** Note that in early drafts the modification of an IF into a RIF was a separate offence excluded from the defences, but the paragraph was moved / wording was changed and the defences are valid Edited 17 hours ago by Tommikka HZR13 1
BigStew Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago (edited) It's all academic until a case is bought to trial. issue is as far as i can tell manufacturing is not clearly defined and the term modifies is only used in terms of turning an IF to RIF. So two scenarios 1) A person with out a defense buys all the parts necessary to make a function RIF and assembles it they are guilt of manufacturing a RIF. 2) A person without a defense is gifted a RIF or hasn't played for years replaces every part in the gun other than the Gearbox case, spring guide and rear sight with non like for like parts so what was once an MP5 is now a G3. yes that is modification i would say that's also manufacturing and I bet a prosecutor could make a convincing argument in that favor. I know that's a extreme argument but even converting an M4A1 to and M16A2 means replacing over 60% of the external parts. the argument is manufacturing and modification are different things but they aren't clearly defined terms in the VRCA. Either way unless they have a nice paper trail of purchases are catching you in the act they can't prove anything illegal was done. Edited 8 hours ago by BigStew Tackle and HZR13 2
Lyndication Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago I think you'd really struggle to find a copper who gave a shit about it if you stopped them on the street and told them tbh. Tackle, BigStew and HZR13 3
BigStew Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 4 hours ago, Lyndication said: I think you'd really struggle to find a copper who gave a shit about it if you stopped them on the street and told them tbh. Agreed, but we just need a few more Cosplayers wave RIFs in public and they might start paying attention. HZR13 and Tackle 2
Moderators Tackle Posted 8 hours ago Moderators Posted 8 hours ago 29 minutes ago, BigStew said: Agreed, but we just need a few more Cosplayers wave RIFs in public and they might start paying attention. Hence why we're not longer gonna allow "my just-cos defence" etc threads, they can feck off to a cosplay forum/page or whatever, any association with them just puts airsoft at risk. Any crime in general that involves rifs, even if its a space age 3d printed jobby that has no real steel equivalent brings unwanted attention to the game. Worst case, some wannabe jihadi wants to martyr himself, & does it while carrying an airsoft rif, then the 💩 will really hit the fan, we'd be lucky to get away with licensed two-tones😭😱 Let's get the thread back on topic HZR13, Tommikka, BigAl and 1 other 3 1
Tommikka Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 1 hour ago, BigStew said: Agreed, but we just need a few more Cosplayers wave RIFs in public and they might start paying attention. Apologies to @tackle The police often do deal with RIFs in public, the cosplayer jumped on by a group of police in London last month for example They get dealt with in a suitable manner - often including ‘strong words of advice’ but including enforcement of the law. This community among others helps a lot by condemning inappropriate use, and when backing up suitable activity (such as on topic for 3D printing RIF parts - as to good intent on playing airsoft or bad intent on bypassing non airsofters problem with buying RIFs) Don’t get too worried about “they will come after us due to idiots”, do be aware of the possibility, but if we are a good community who think of protecting our hobbies then we look like the responsible good guys HZR13, Lyndication, Galvatron and 1 other 4
Moderators Tackle Posted 6 hours ago Moderators Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, Tommikka said: Apologies to @tackle The police often do deal with RIFs in public, the cosplayer jumped on by a group of police in London last month for example They get dealt with in a suitable manner - often including ‘strong words of advice’ but including enforcement of the law. This community among others helps a lot by condemning inappropriate use, and when backing up suitable activity (such as on topic for 3D printing RIF parts - as to good intent on playing airsoft or bad intent on bypassing non airsofters problem with buying RIFs) Don’t get too worried about “they will come after us due to idiots”, do be aware of the possibility, but if we are a good community who think of protecting our hobbies then we look like the responsible good guys No apology necessary, I think as a forum, 99% of the membership are aware of the inherent risks (& responsibilities) associated with rif ownership, but cosplayers, they take walting to a whole new level, usually have absolutely no interest in what we do, or the time & money many of us have invested in the game, so entertaining their interest in easily obtaining rifs is a big red flag for me. While ive often said said vcra is a crock of 💩, but it's the only one we've got, & if any government ever amends it, itll only get worse, not better. Tommikka and HZR13 1 1
Lyndication Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago I think an important distinction is that no-one is getting severely injured or killed by RIFs. That was the impetus behind the "Zombie Knife" ban, for example. At worst you'll get idiots getting jumped in public by police who have to treat them as real, but it's not often enough that anyone really gives a shit. Like genuinely, talk to people outside this hobby and they barely know that RIFs exist.
Moderators Tackle Posted 5 hours ago Moderators Posted 5 hours ago 1 minute ago, Lyndication said: I think an important distinction is that no-one is getting severely injured or killed by RIFs. That was the impetus behind the "Zombie Knife" ban, for example. At worst you'll get idiots getting jumped in public by police who have to treat them as real, but it's not often enough that anyone really gives a shit. Like genuinely, talk to people outside this hobby and they barely know that RIFs exist. All it takes is a miscommunicated message, incorrect information, or a jumpy firearms officer making the wrong split second decision, which results in someone dead on the floor clutching an airsoft rif & its a massive long term inquiry, which is guaranteed to end with further restrictions on buying, owning, or using airsoft rifs. How severe they are depends on the incident & the in-situ government, & its not a question of if, rather than when, unfortunately. HZR13 1
Lyndication Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago I mean, firearms officers are few and far between. UK police have a much, much lower rate of armed officers than most anywhere else in the world. Someone getting shot for having a RIF just doesn't seem likely to lead to banning RIFs IMO. I get that it's the collective bogeyman of the UK Airsoft scene because the government is thick as mince regardless of leader or party, but still. Tackle 1
Moderators Tackle Posted 54 minutes ago Moderators Posted 54 minutes ago A mate of mine has just retired from the Met, he's served in every aspect of their firearms units for over a decade, loved the job, but disheartened by the system, when they charged one of his colleagues with murder, for just doing his job, he nearly handed in his "ticket" along with many others, only thing that stopped him was his impending pension review. But a lot did quit, & previous applicants that didnt quite make the grade were then reconsidered for fast tracked recruitment to the units, in order to fill the considerable gaps. With that in mind, I don't think we can say that accidents won't happen, or mistakes be made, a very recent possible was the synagogue attack just a week ago, one of those killed & one of the injured was as a result of police rounds, we've yet to hear the finer details, that probably won't be made public for at least 6 months while every aspect is investigated, the officers involved will downgraded in their duties, & eventually recommendations may be made to prevent a reoccurrence in the future. My point is, the system takes it very seriously, so much so that should airsoft rifs figure in a police related shooting, the powers that be will have no hesitation in recommending changes in rif ownership, after all we're just a bunch of silly buggers dressing up, & running around playing silly buggers, its highly unlikely that anyone in power will consider that our right to play realistic looking silly buggers will outweigh the need for future public safety or police procedures. Hence why we've got to be on top of our game, so to speak, & enabling anyone, especially non airsofters to cut corners when it comes to rif ownership, is a massive no no. If its true, im disappointed that firesupport is accepting cosplay as a defence, they should know better, but money is money in these difficult times i guess ?.
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