Sitting Duck

Just got some paint on it when you was decorating Don't start another UKARA or VCRA post ffs we only just cleaned up after the last riot in fact more wars start not over politics, religion, oil fields, money but in actual fact it was airsoft that started WWII I reckon..... Germany was pi$$ed when they got their GF or TWG order that they took matters into their own hands I mean invading poland just coz you wasn't happy with a gun was way way OTT so then it all got out of hand and the yanks had to wade in and save us all with their higher fps guns (bastid BFG's they chucked at Japan - PT247 bought up all the US Army surplus stock I think) always better to resolve any issues via email or pm

Technically - shotguns are springers too and I must get a tri-shot one just for the CQB kick of: 'ave sum of thaaaaaaaaaattttttttttttttttt !!!!!!!!!! but yeah a springer regular rifle would put you at an uphill disadvantage under regular fire Well unless you are THAT GOOD - only need one shot type of thing Even if I was that awesome walking on airsoft water, I doubt if I take my springer Famas (which I'm most deffo not - I need a noobish burst to get my man so to speak) by all means have a go, but think you will soon seek to hire/buy a half decent aeg (reckon by end of first game/round of the day) shotgun - at least they are quicker/easier to cock or a gas pistol can fire off 15-25 rounds (even cheapo semi only non-blowback could return some crap back at them) But yeah I admire your courage & all that (crazy fool you - kidding )

Me thinks very little for a little while... the main thing is LISTEN to ya gun..... She should be greased up nicely - sometime not as well as we would like with proper grease but in general she ain't gonna be running dry either - plus too much grease is not a wise thing either Yes after a couple of months you "could" give a squirt/dab of grease here n there but feel only if you suspect she sounds a bit dry - but tbh if she sounded dry or performance dropped then I would crack her open BUT if it ain't broke don't fix it as they say.... You should not need to worry with a half decent new gun for a while - no point keep opening her up if she don't need it After a day's shooting - clean barrel - well you should of given it a clean maybe lunchtime if ya felt it needed it anyway - clean barrel, empty mags of all bb's - this saves the spring in mag losing its tension btw ensure you have fired the gun on semi to help "park" the gears/spring with least tension and remove battery I guess...... 24hrs later - bang out & clean ya boots of caked in mud ??? Nahhhhhhhhh - sod it they will only be getting muddy again soon (unless you got a really nice pair of boots then you should look after them) dunno if I missed anything out but that is my routine afterwards (unless I'm so knackered and just flake in the chair on my return)

Indeed - these guns are like mini hammer drill gearboxes.... piston smashing into cylinder head, gears spinning faster than a car's engine flat out on M1 motorway (just did some bevel gear rpm maths btw) So it is no massive shock when they sometimes crap out on you/me/us If possible try & see about buying new from a reputable retailer that way should it crap out too soon on ya you got some warranty Often when people go on about about various new upgrades fitted: in my mind fitting "some" new parts goes hand in hand with general wear & tear and if the "stock" part was showing some wear then most would replace that part with a slightly better part eg: stock nozzle + stock cylinder head + worn seal/o-ring on piston head replace those after 6 months when gun loses some of its initial ooooomph and gun will perform well again (maybe spring & AOE - don't worry what this means yet) But if I replace them worn stock parts with some slightly better ones but I don't expect to demand another £50+ than new gun it is just part of the course - if they were still ok-ish I would of probably left it as it was Like putting in a re-con engine in a car - ain't a brand new motor just it hasn't got a borked engine anymore - part of the joys of motoring/airsoft Some upgrades are different - stuff like cosmetics etc..... But annoys me when people expect internal mechanical service/upgrades to be worth so much more (yes some stuff like hi-speed gears/motors are worth a few bob on top of general s/hand value) but new super duper piston, top spec cylinder, tight as frogs ar$e double o-ring nozzle ???? chances are the previous stock stuff was getting worn and performing $hit.. So in effect they had to be replaced - yes why not with better stuff BUT don't friggin' try ya luck trying to add on the full price of them parts ffs at best if you replaced a crappy worn stock nozzle with say a £10 one eg: say 3 bits @ £10 each = £ 30 In my mind then all I might add on is say 3 x £5-ish - the extra price over a stock one fitting - oh leave it out, if you hadn't have used it so much or broke it it would still be ok (was running alright when I left it as saying goes) So I can't see how people can try to charge full price parts plus another £20-£30 fitting = £50 to £60 "upgrades" when in my mind it is just wear & tear plus a slight improvement But STILL a second hand gun Oh well I might as well as keep it - they might say.... Fine I think, if it is a good gun then I would probably consider keeping it (I am mega paranoid but often wonder if gun/car etc.. is so damn bloddy good why are they selling it then ?) Whoooooaaa mega carried away there - ignore most of the above I wrote just me getting on my high horse just confirm with the guy if there is any warranty of a sort - say Argos 14 day or something or look to buy new - especially if there is a good shop local to you - not JBBG btw soz for mega waffle chaps

Agreed, soz if I was pulling it to bits I was just being honest, not ultra high spec but yup certainly better than most of mine to be honest Once she is running and you get the leak compression issue sorted she will make for quite a good one

Lovely little black number

soz pic 3 showed what I couldn't see should just work me thinks or switch burnt out or broke deffo test switch - it should just make prefect circuit

what about ya: CAA Sportsline M4 ??? and soz but all you have is: Ultimate Gearbox w/full Lonex internals - well yeah it would have coz its Lonex Ultimate Gearbox that is like a £100-£120 gearbox maybe with 16:1 gears (don't think I would shell out that on a box but to each their own) G&G Standard metal hopup - sounds good but probably a left over from an upgrade Unknown barrel make, but is a silver 16 inch silver barrel that unscrews partway to attach a silencer dunno 400mm barrel could be almost anything with an extension or not - can't quite work out but nothing super duper it sounds GFC M4 Reciever body - Gunfire's own brand so probably £40 - £50 tops upgrade or shell to put these left overs in TM motor - uhm ergh so what - it ain't gonna make it shoot like a TM I've found that theirs no compression whatsoever when it comes to firing my magazines, and the trigger locks up fairly often, even when dry firing. Can i assume that the piston head is otherwise F**ked, as problem #1? No compression - could be a bad nozzle/hop problem trigger locks up - could be the semi release problem - you probably releasing it in the "dead zone" it should not lock up up if you keep the trigger a little longer - you could be releasing a tad too early Thing is the gun doesn't sound like it is running properly at all and the stuff installed - the gearbox is probably carrying the biggest attraction - but doubt if I personally would buy one new (yes very nice boxes I'm sure but I can't see me warranting that amount - well not the way I shoot - which is badly, very badly) Give the guy a chance to sort it or get ya 249 back if it was a good 'un

The gun or Ascot ?

Somebody at the Mall perhaps if they have a techy guy who fixes their hire guns etc ???

Think it is the "Guess the make with boned thread" game my Ares link was ONLY a very rough looking guess at the best is maybe 275-300 inner BUT like we are saying: YOU gotta strip/measure the mofo yourself and all the crap I say is to be taken only as a pinch of salt rough ball-park guide - so don't flame me if you buy the wrong stuff

IF your inner barrel was say 275mm then you would have an outer of ABOUT 11 inches yeah it is hard to 101% be exact as one barrel is usually in mm's (inner) then the friggin' outer is usually in inches (outer) Poxy aeg's just like car tyres - rims's in inches, but width/profile wall in mm's Also I think your M4 has the ris bolted on but though it looks like an Ares I ain't 200% absolute certain...... But if the ris was mounted permanently and securely at top receiver by the couple of allen bolts then you could replace say a 9 or 10 inch plain barrel, small suppressor or chubby type flash hider then mount just a flip up front sight etc............... Please note this is ALL maybe / possible / total guesswork as I don't have YOUR gun in front of ME And further more though I might think it could be Ares I am no expert & getting crap wrong is a very regular part of my daily sad life Most outer barrels are just a smidge longer than the inner but some are say 10mm shorter all depends on make and the flash hider fitted so say if your inner is for eg: 275 then ya outer is "supposed" to be ABOUT that I say suppose coz all measurements are aprox and can vary a bit anyway So you see it really is impossible for anyone to tell you that an outer xxx mm's or xx.x "'s will deffo work You might be able to refit front sight back on but if not and your ris looks fixed on ok then a short suppressor or short thick sound-hog amplifier & flip front sight could look real nice change to ya front end (just my take on a possible consideration) End of the day YOU have to work out your dimensions and see what options you might have if you change that boned threaded outer barrel

Unfortunately Action Hobbies don't seem to stock all the G&G range but... http://www.actionhobbies.co.uk/G-G-GC16-MOD-0-30th-Anniversary-AEG-Airsoft-Rifle-Black_A1OF0N.aspx?nh=163991#.VSMQ6-HqfIU Ok it is not fully loaded with rails but still a bloody good buy of a bloody good gun for £150 if you HAVE to have metal Yes some plastic guns are brittle and crap but G&G's and a few others are very good robust ones in fact I have owned most of the G&G plastic ones and the only metal ones I own are the 2 x types of 30th editions for the money I think there is no better make of starter M4 and these G&G's - even the plastic ones are much more than just starter guns. They are bloody good reliable guns and they are like Ford Transist vans... Very popular but good workhorses and straight forward to maintain/service (Yes a few other vans might be better but might be more expensive to buy/maintain) Hold that G&G and some others if you can and see what YOU feel most comfortable with Me - even if cyma was same price I'd probably still get the metal G&G 30th one even though I already have one in black well maybe a tan one would be nice...... NO I MUST STOP BUYING GUNS, think the family are moaning about stuff like holidays, new clothes, food in cupboards etc....

sounds like it or rather doesn't make no sound at all pull out motor - connect wires and it should jump/spin if not the quite likely trigger wire has pulled off trigger or something - or motor boned but very unlikely, but brushes do go at times could be blown fuse even - deffo check that sod all this crap is a process of elimination in the end hence a good thing to have is a bit of common sense and time - never just "think" oh its probably that and steam in bloody hell - just listen to me - I am still boning guns so don't take everything I say as complete gospel I still have so much to learn myself

Google up some videos on opening ver 2 boxes...... One tip is a magnet under AR - ta Samurai, helps to keep Anti Reversal latch in place (esp when closing up box) Would advise popping it in a plastic bag to catch the stuff as it explodes (more likely to happen if spring is halfway coked) But very often the first time most of us opened up a box - $hit goes everywhere (still sometimes does but not that often) yup - do some pre checks before opening - the nozzle moving is a good sign gears are still turning but piston can strip or even snap off the initial tooth.... motor height or even motor's gear can be stripped or came loose on shaft I have seen there are number of things to go pear shape but it is just a load of nuts n bolts meccano set really Clear a table that you can use for a few days - you may need to get a part or two Take your time - watch a few videos, clean it, replace and ensure any parts are same size & operate really smoothly, no catching or binding Take as much time as you need if you re-shim it - there is no race on shimming time - it is one of the most important things when ya happy it all seems to work again - re grease & the fun bit, re assemble (a couple of dry runs without spring to get used to closing up box is a good idea) keep all screws n crap together or back in their holes or in a few pots etc..... (times I've seen an ar spring just vapourise into thin air over night) seriously if you take your time and using a little common sense it is not as hard as it sounds it ain't easy at first attempt but like most things the more you have a go at it the more you will learn & gain Besides - if it all goes bollox - you can either send it off or just say to hell and buy another v2 box anyway There is a sticky about with loads of peoples tips on servicing gearbox's well its somewhere on here with more hints n tips http://www.airsoft-forums.co.uk/index.php/topic/19-gearboxes/

on a more expensive/mid range gun and if you have no previous experience it would be very wise to contact shop and speak to them. a clean barrel would help a little but 313 is a little low when usually they on about 330-ish however - that is on 0.20's I presume - had to ask just in case I would speak to them if she was 313 brand new out of box, they might tweak it up a bit for next to nothing (I say might - you can only ask and say you was expecting a little more from a higher end G&G) Well If I had flogged you it I'd be inclined to consider it for cost of parts/postage to keep customer happy or see if I have a more oomphy one in stock - thought they would of chrono'd it which they might have and is a tough line to walk if shop sells you a gun @ 345 & your site limit is 328 It ain't bad 313 - at least it is safe to use but if you wanna use heavier bb's like .25 etc... then you probably will wanna get closer to 350 if that is your site limit (but some sites do operate a 328 or 340 limit so be aware if you are gonna visit other sites) Contact shop and ask but tbh don't worry too much about that small drop - maybe in 3-6 months yeah but some of the best TM's shoot at 300 or below and proof it ain't all about fps if she is firing ok and your range & accuracy is good for you then leave it as is put a few full day skirmishes through it and see how she goes (you could get it changed and end up with a 345 gun but a lemon or not so accurate one is what I mean) FPS is not the be all n end all to shooting well - it helps but there is lot more to a good gun that just fps is what I mean

oops never notice da choice/poll options

http://www.landwarriorairsoft.com/airsoft-magazines-c3/high-capacity-c51/dytac-300rds-bravo-magazine-for-m4-aeg-black-box-of-10-p3058 I know I keep banging on about these but metal hi-cap mags for just over a fiver each get a m8 to go halves or sell 5 of them they do sell 5 in a set but 5 for £43 or 10 for £51 - you do the maths (postage is about £6 to include in total price but still a great buy) I have bought various cheapo basic mags - even 500 rnd ones from china & poland and they were crap or not very good needing to be wound for ages for just 6 to 10 shots then wind like f*ck again Those ones feed very well - lets say I have bought more than one box when those last 2 boxes of ten go - they took around 4 or 5 months to get them back in IMHO these are the ones to get for hi-caps and the ASG mid-caps seem to be the mid-caps to get

well the CNC box with Seigtek DSG is going in my JBBG B500A1 - kidding Small update - did half day on Saturday and she still works !!!! To be fair - only probably used about 1.5k that afternoon, was hoping to go mental but started out well but got taken out on last game early and was a long game but had some fun with it all the same..... The cheapo DE 901c mags struggle to feed well when pushing 30rps on 9.9v got a jam and though crap not again - but cleared and stuck at 7.4v after that plus stock piston/spring has that crappy metal spring clip/mount in it so it ain't ultra light so not pushing 11.1v & Pre Engagement Also above 7.4v she likes to try & double fire on semi with a standard non braking fet So yeah keep her on 7.4v is the message me thinks on this one still plastic m901c gearbox and metal BD m160 motor = 24.8rps on fresh 7.4v probably 8.5v aprox (that is 3 x faster rof & aprox 100fps more than crap stock box & motor) Got a few peeps asking about it - where did you get that ??? They lost interest when I told them what & where it came from - lol Real shame the hop is a bit crap, still over hopping on .25's a little range is a tiny bit better than a regular G&G out of box - shoots a tiny tiny bit to left & crappy sights offer next to no adjustment Alas due to the build/design of cheap plastic receiver it has to come apart - which I knew, to replace with a better hop Had fun all the same when enemy popped their head up from behind cover - "Ave some of thaaaaaaaaaatttttttttttt" Deffo can have some fun with it but was a little worried about tripping ar$e over tit with it rushing around the woods Doubt if she will hold up after a few falls - sturdy & quite solid looking with little flex But that don't mean she is as robust as say a regular AK or polymer G&G is what I mean Fire selector - well started out working perfectly but end of day need to go to safe then back to semi (bastid selector gears but a common AK problem and this is a cheapo cheapo box too) Hope to take it for a full day and see if it still works after 4k or so through it in one day then maybe if box holds out ok finish beefing up another m901c box but stock motor setup Chuck this moderate build back in a M901c for a laugh & consider a proper metal box in other AK12 (saw a few of these M901c BB guns on Sat so could be fun to take a more robust one to say the Mall one day) Fanx again to Choc, BBG4L & Well/Black Viper

Guessing it is maybe an ASG Armalite but seems like a few other bits or upgrades added at some point Anyway looks all metal and not a JBBG - bit battleworn but if she shoots ok then that is what matters 1 careful owner (plus 3 other very bad owners too) glue it on, maybe look out for a 10 or 11 inch outer barrel, flash/suppressor & add front flip sight etc.... just glue it on and see what good little deals you can find EDIT - nope not ASG hard to figure out but gonna go with ARES http://www.airsoftmegastore.com/1845-elite-force-ares-airsoft-m4-cqb-aeg-rifle-full-metal-rail-system.aspx similar perhaps ????

ooooh its like them picture guessing games... you know you see a tiny bit, then a little bit more, then it zooms out some more 1st one to buzz in correctly wins a prize - yayyyyyyyy oh the prize is the old f*cked flash hider

coz it is hard to tell if ccw or cw and it looks nigh on boned I'd glue/tape wedge on what ya can for now and just go with it keep your eyes open but we dunno the exact make or high quality it is by that I mean it could be say a modest gun and if so it might not be worth going too mad on time/money you could replace outer barrel but think oh I will put on another longer RIS - before you know where you are you may as well perhaps bought another RIS type M4 and kept this as backup/spare or sell it (declaring the moody flash of course if you have integrity) see how it goes, keep eye out for something cheap front end and kind of live with it is my gut feeling

if you only used it a couple of times and it was new then speak/return it to shop DON'T MESS WITH IT AND VOID ANY WARRANTY if it was second hand the selector plate or select mechanism is faulty/misaligned - take to shop for repair/service I reckon

What gun is it ??? hard to tell coz thread is chewed up but it "could" be clockwise on there try to stare and watch how the spiral thread climbs - so to speak but I'd be f*cked if I can clearly see it is so mashed up try wrapping a bit of plumbing ptfe tape round threads and it might bite but any flash will be bollox'd that you put on there in the end but the tape & bit of glue could help it stay put see you got some kind of RIS so you probably rear wired

They are quite cheap from china - yeah must be ultra high quality look on fleabay for "14mm die left" - it should be 1mm pitch However though 14mm ccw is the norm there are still the odd one Army R85 a clone of G&G's L85 has a normal clockwise thread to be honest you might be better off just glue something on there for now some cheapo plastic flash or a bit of black pipe/tube M4a1 will need the front sight pins knocked out and some hand guard sizes vary to not all have true exact 7 inch hand guards so more modification could be needed even if you buy a complete outer barrel - try to make sure it is from same make/model to be sure TM compatible can translate to "kind of" TM compatible if the gun is a decent make you could look at it as an ideal time to change front end to a rail system but if a M4a1 with battery up front then peq or rewire for rear battery may be needed If it was a £100 or so gun I think I'd just see if I could glue on with epoxy/araldite something to tidy it up and see how it goes for now whilst I rethink my options plenty of crappy cheapo guns have just glued on flash hiders - so you could throw something together maybe make something like a bespoke silencer at the end - soz not very good at Blue Peter & washing up bottle top stuff if it is a more higher end gun then have a think about how far you want to go but could still plop something on there for now - it don't do much anyway (looks mainly and maybe produces a slightly different sound) hard to tell but guessing a m4a1 with a 275-300mm inner barrel as the end and front sight is close together so if that is about correct you don't really want a longer 363 m4a1 outer barrel