RostokMcSpoons

Best report them to Trading Standards if you're so sure about that!

Ouch. Still I think it's more likely you'd damage a plastic Li-Po than drive a screw into a Li-Ion I just saw a video of a guy making several attempts to cut one in half with bolt cutters, in a toilet (so it would instantly short with the water) Eventually he managed it and yeah it went pop big style. Well, each to their own. I'm ordering a Li-Ion, I'll let you know if it goes bad (y'know, if it doesn't kill me first ;)) Edit: Damn these rabbit holes I found another guy who likes messing with batteries. He tried to do bad things to a Li-Ion cell. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNNWbm681AI&ab_channel=GreatScott! TL;DR on that one (I skipped to the outdoors 'abuse' experiments) - over volting did nothing but make it warm. He tried two short circuit tests.... one did nothing but make it hot after 20 minutes. The second made it go 'pop' but only in a small way, comparable to a LiPo going smoky, after a while. Take from that what you will.

To counter that Iceni are the videos and the personal experience of players who are using them and are very happy with them. It seems a lot of people got their knickers in a twist when Titan launched their range back in 2018 and decided they were a marketing scam. Those forum posts are still found early when googling 'are Titan any good', and those posts make the same claims about lack of peak power. Perhaps Titan were exaggerating their product back then, but they upgraded the range in 2020. I just discovered a nice but little subscribed YT channel called Rock Bottom Airsoft The chap there tests the 3 main types of batteries with both standard and upgraded guns ... And then gives a report after using them for a time ... The TL;DR from that is he uses the Li-Ion all the time in preference to Li-po, and he runs upgraded guns. I've yet to see any stories or videos of failing, fiery, exploding, melting Li-Ion batteries. But maybe that hasn't happened because there aren't that many in use. Or maybe the added safety of the metal case really does make a difference. I know which type of battery I'd rather have in my house anyway. The ability to store them at any level of charge without me being to render them useless with a simple mistake or lack of care makes them better value too. I've barely played much Airsoft recently now I've come back to it after many years, but I've already seen a puffy battery that had to be ditched. I'll take the Li-Ion for a simple life. Edit: Iceni, I forgot to mention you assumed the worst of Titan with their C rating. I did wonder, so I searched - they address that in their FAQ

Yes, just. I just tried it with a typical 1600mAH stick battery, 205mm long. Wired with small Tamiya connector My gun is a new Double Eagle M906c with a simple stock design, and Deans connector. The stock tube is 160mm from end of the receiver to the end of the tube. It's 120mm long internally. I have no idea if there's a standard size for these things! The problem is the wiring, with a Deans to Tamiya adapter lead, you'll need to do some 'squishing to make it fit. And 'squishing' leads to damaged...leads. And that's not good, make sure you get the cabling tidied up with no slack to get in the way. I'm buying a Titan Li-ion battery... 3000mah in a smaller package. 135mm long, 20mm diameter. Expensive-ish at £30 (and you'll need a smart lipo charger) but no worries with charging or storage, just like wavey-gravey said.

Yeah. that EPS stock is definitely on my shopping list, but I'll probably wait until after Xmas. £50 is a chunk of change to spend right now. I decided my first priority is to have one really decent battery that will go in all 3 of my guns (and won't die in, or kill, my non-Mosfet old-school AK and M16)

It is pretty short, to be honest. I rolled up a couple of a4 sheets and sellotaped them so they were pretty much the same dimensions as the 11.1V battery (2cm dia, 20cm long) - and that mostly fills the stock tube for diameter as well as being too long. The connectors would meet about where the end of the stock tube is and would have nowhere to go - the stock wouldn't fit back on. So that's out - unless I connect in some more wire in, in a very streamlined way. So I then cut the paper roll down to the 13.5cm of the 7.4v. Yup, that works as I can stuff the cables down in towards the gun - it'll stick it out - but not much differently than my current LiPo does. So all good Experimentation with an 11.1v can wait for another (pay)day!

Yeah I'm taking the plunge (well it's not much of a risk really) and buying the Titan 7.4v Li-Lion 3000mAH stick battery. It'll fit in all my guns (once I've rewired to Deans), and I reckon I'd be able to play through the day quite easily with the one battery. Good stuff

Your Google-fu needs some work! Admittedly it's an M not a K, but do-able? https://bbguns4less.co.uk/products/galaxy-g-5m-tactical-full-metal-gearbox-aeg-rifle-in-black.html

Having looked at the Titan Li-Ion packs, if I go for the 7.4v 3000mAH then it's one cell less and consequently a good deal shorter at 13.5cm, should fit without an issue. https://www.titanpower.eu/collections/stick/products/3000mah-7-4v-stick-t-plug-deans If I go for the 11.1v 3000mAH then it's 19.5cm https://www.titanpower.eu/collections/stick/products/3000mah-11-1v-stick-t-plug-deans I was thinking of going for the 11.1v, but honestly if this statement is true: "C Rating: 16C (equivalent of a 1600mAh 30C)" then I'm probably ok for sticking with 7.4v as the RoF is 'ok'.... I would have considered a low C rating 11.1 to lower the extra rate of fire a little. As the M906 is undoubtedly going to be my preferred gun from now on I'll be gutted if I break it. Also I could share the 7.4v with my AK, so there's that. Damn it, maybe I'll buy a small 11.1v as well I don't mind spending money on batteries if I can store them charged and ready for use! (Double damn it, Titan don't sell short 11.1v sticks) One thing I found in my brief research last night was a lot of hate for Titan (and Li-Ions) from a few people, from about 3 years ago... have opinions mellowed now? Or should I be shopping elsewhere?

So at the moment I've got a Big Foot 7.4v LiPo stock battery in there, along with a Tamiya mini adapter lead. It sticks out the end of the stock tube but it's ok. I think it's about 17 cm long, 20mm wide and 15mm high. I'm actively considering buying some sort of Li-ion to go in there instead. A smaller mAH would fit in easily but I fancy one of the longer 3000 mAH ones that might actually last all day... They are 20mm diameter, but 20cm long. I think that in itself is not really an issue, as long as I leave the stock extended to its fullest. What I'm actually worried about is the wiring. Without a Tamiya converter lead in there, I think it has to go in connection-first which might steal some more space at the far end of the tube. Is that the case or am I worrying about nothing?

Well I guess the benefit of playing an m4 is that I can buy the mid mags, try them, and if I want to ditch either set after experimenting, I won't have any problem selling them on!

The mention of the Li-Ion batteries somewhat passed me by when I first read some of the replies, but I came across these batteries today, and by-all-that's-holy they do look to be cat's knees. Or the bee's whiskers. Take your pick. Yes they may be a bit pricier in some instances, and yes they are available in fewer configurations, but they do seem to solve all the innate LiPo safety problems, and handily beat LiFe batteries in terms of power density. I'm willing to take a punt on them! The only issue is I just bought a LiPo / LiFe charger. Some of the sales blurb on the batteries mentions it's fine to use LiPo chargers, but some forum posts says not. Some of the chargers are marked specifically as Li-Ion compatible, but others say .. nothing. So what's the story? Edit:. Just watched a video with a guy from Titan saying normal lipo chargers are fine. Which was nice.

I dropped down the investigative rabbit hole and found Lonex 200rd mid caps at less than a tenner each, when bought in a 6 bundle. They seem pretty good from the few reviews I've seen. So a couple of options there!

I'm very keen on camouflage. When it's the start of the day and I'm looking at people on the other team dressed up in black kit I'm always pleased, I'll actually be able to spot them. The ghillie suited snipers give me no chance but I kind of think it's almost cheating to be that invisible 😋 Anyway at the moment I'm still wearing my old s95 DPM and using scrim or sniper tape to cover stuff up. It'll do for the time being. I had a fun hour at my local site trying out my guns on the range, burned through several hundred in the new gun, it's absolutely brilliant. But I'm getting wound up by hi cap mags Haha, see what I did there, wound up ha ha haaaaaaa I'm here all week etc So I'm thinking I might change to mid caps sooner rather than later... Will I find them a pain in the a**, unless I buy some fancy Odin speedloader to go with them? Do I need to buy quality mags or will a cheap set of asg polymers (10 for £50) do ok?

That's great to hear! I would normally have been playing today but I crocked my ankle playing football so I'll just be pootling along to the site to pick up my other guns from the tech at lunchtime. Hopefully I can ping a few shots at the range and get the hop dialed in 🙂 I spent a while yesterday messing around with my kit. I fixed a couple of minor annoyances: I put a couple of velcro stickers inside the stock tube that stopped it from rattling at all (but I will buy that PTS EPS stock in the future), and another in the mag well to reduce the play there. Job done. Would like to reduce the small rattle of the right side selector switch too, but the bolt is already tight I've found a single point sling in the bargain bin at my local retailer which I'll be picking up soon. It's just got a loop to wrap around the stock tube, not sure how effective it will be... might be a fiver wasted but I do like trying my luck!

Thanks guys. I'll be buying the TM for sure. Just not yet, as my HFC M9 that I thought was knackered is now getting through a mag full of BB's before running out of gas... Good enough for an occasional use sidearm. And I spent my disposable income on a new rifle, so it'll have to wait for next payday.. or maybe the one after that 😏

I've been thrashing around the internetz trying to do exactly the same thing. I've got some osprey sa80 pouches which I like, good in the they can hold both my m4 and AK-47 mags securely. But as you say they're not the fastest. So I bought a plastic shell fast mag pouch. Unfortunately it wasn't Molle do I had to paracord it to my battle harness, flopping around a little. However it did prove that plastic is the way to go. Eventually I found these.... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tactical-Mag-Holster-Molle-Mag-Clip-5-56-Fast-Magazine-Pouch-Strike-System-/313209884981?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0 I've only ordered them last night but these are cheap at £10 for two holders, and they were available in green as I wanted. The only problem is they might not arrive until the end of the month

That's a bold move on a brand new gun 😋

Yes, it does seem that mishandling is the main cause, but when that could be as simple as catching a lead in the wrong place when you're changing battery in a hurry between games, that's something we can all imagine doing isn't it? That's the (slightly) scary bit for me.

Cheers, it's woodland with some sort-of cqb 'villages' where we change to single shot. Most of the longer range stuff feels like 20-30, occasionally 40m, but at partial targets - sometimes through a bit of light brush - so accuracy and momentum the key things there! I've had a dig around in my kit box, I found a bag of 0.30s in there I thought I'd already used. And a bag of leftovers which could be anything from 0.20s to 0.28s. Maybe even a pick'n'mix of all 3 weights. Anyway, I'll see if I can lift the 0.30s in the garden.. should be an interesting test! edit: Yes, it'll over-hop .30s. That's the stock rubber that's had probably a hundred rounds through it, at room temperature, at 20m range. Geoff's .30g Bio Natural Precision BB's. Operated by a non-expert user Now obviously I may have so much hop wound on at this point that the fps might be unusably low, and I definitely saw some variability in the trajectories (though that's perhaps down to the new hop rubber, and the newness of the gun as a whole, and me only firing a couple of shots at each setting, with a battery that probably needs a recharge) but it's definitely lifting them successfully. I'll probably order a big bag of 0.28s just to play it a little safe, but when I'm at the site next I'll try to get a chrono reading with the 0.30s Absolutely loving the look and feel of this, and the binary trigger... lurrrrrrvly!

As I'm going to run mine stock at least for a couple of games, can someone recommend the best BB weight to use... I'm thinking .25g to make sure it can hop 'em in cold weather, but of course I'd like to go heavier if it'll work...?

Looks good, if nothing else

Cheers guys - but actually MPA airsoft sell pre-cut poly discs from 25mm up, as lens protectors. I had identified them as the best source, but the p&p was a bit much for something that could go in a letter envelope. So I pooh-poohed it. "Never pooh-pooh a pooh-pooh". Useful advice, I'm sure you'll agree. Anyway, turns out Nunfa1 is calling in there today and has offered to pick up a couple for me and post them on. Top chap!

Has anyone tried LiFe batteries as an alternative? I know next-to-nothing about them (hiya Wiki, hiya pal), beyond the fact they're supposed to be safe. Can be punctured etc without looking like an accident in a napalm factory* Now I understand they're not as 'energy dense' so for a given pack size you'll be getting fewer mAH and lower voltage. And there's a lot less choice in sizes, but I saw a reasonably sized pack with 900 mAH and 9.x volts, for £20 (iirc). If safety is a serious concern, are they worth consideration? * This is how I imagine a LiPo fire. May be a slight over-dramatization - I've not seen one yet

Cheers I'd seen about the spring issue, so prepared for that... Which strength will I need? Now the stock is an interesting call.. looks like I could fit a triple battery in there, opens up the choice quite a bit...