John_W

IMO if a player is going to act like a twat then they should be dealt with accordingly by the site staff rather than introducing blanket rules that affect everyone else

Hahaha, you just beat me to it FreeFrag.  I also think rate of fire should be closer to the real weapons but unfortunately that's never going to happen.
I tend to use 2x hi-caps to keep mag count down (cheaper and easier to carry) but I still use semi most of the time.
 
I think full auto in the woods is fine but some people over do it and I hate those stupid high ROF sprayers. 
 
Last game I went to I got hit by a burst of 7 shots in my back when I came up to a guy and tried to duck behind cover.
Didn't say anything but was annoying.

I think the posts made by @Rogerborg pretty much hit the nail on the head to be honest.
 
I can't say I've encountered many who share my mentality but I much prefer my guns rate of fire to be as close as possible to their real counterpart and I've never understood this need to push guns into silly rates of fire. While I'd never try and pressure someone into playing in a manner to match my play style or approach to airsoft, I do think there needs to be some level of mutual respect and acknowledgement of what constitutes as reasonable versus the realms of simply taking the piss.
 
Personally I love Luke's approach over at Negative Airsoft and his refusal to build "wanker guns" as he puts it.
 
Full auto definitely has a place in airsoft but based on what I've seen in the online community there also seems to be a massive drive towards drum mag's and similar shenanigans which, at least for me, take away from the spirit of the game. Especially when you see pistols with Stanag mag's or dum mag's hanging out of the bottom, if you want that then use a damn rifle/SMG/LMG.

Agreed.  If Captain Minigun turns up with his 30rps DSG (or 40rps scuba gun) and lets rip with long bursts, the solution isn't to limit everyone to semi-auto.  It's to ask, then tell him to keep it to short bursts.
 
And the problem is the player not the gun. In the "no full auto in buildings" video that I'm thinking of where the tosser is pre-firing semi in CQB faster than most folk can fire auto, that's a choice. The gun isn't making him do it. I'd expect him to just be yeeted right off the site.  One player's fees aren't worth the cost of setting the aspiration bar that high for every 16 year old who sees that and starts saving up his paper round money for a punishment gun just like it.

Maybe the answer to all the arguments is lo-caps, run what you like at whatever RPS you like, the only codicil being your only allowed to use  realistic low cap mags according to the gun your using.
Would definitely make people have to think about their playing style, or hit the gym to cater for the shit load of mags they'll want to carry. 🤔

Yes and no.

I remember even 10-15 years ago at what I would say was the height of airsoft.
Most people had learned to replace the internal batteries with bigger badder ones in oversized PEQ's and in stock bags.
My M4 back then might now have had the range of an S hop today but it threw .25s a decent distance and the ROF on an m100 spring with a high speed motor and a 9.6 3300 Nicad was not much shy of todays. 

I agree with ROF but it is rare you see someone with an insane rate of fire. Fast yes, but not insane.
But it's the player that is going to be the issue. 

If someone builds their gun to be a laser hose, there is a good chance they might also play like a dick. 

This is where good marshalling makes all the difference, not silly rules you can easily circumvent. 

Bollocks to the lot of you😜, I play single shot irrespective of where I'm playing, I don't need a BB hose to get kills, cos I'm a real man 😏💪 
Jokes aside, seriously Its what I prefer, but I've only ever played one site where it was the norm (now closed😭), & it worked well for everyone there, but obviously not everyones cup of tea, especially if You've chucked a load of money at it getting the RPS up 

When other airsofters started lobbing 1.13J 0.32g at 30rps?
 
However, I'd say that's a problem with ROF, not with auto.  And it's perfectly possible to make a semi-auto wanker gun - I won't give the twat the reward of a link, but we've probably seen the "Semi-auto, dude! / Brah, this is full auto!" video.
 
 
 
 
I agree, and if I get into woodland again, I'll likely end up going DMR.  But I can trust myself to follow a 1-in-flight, or 2/3 second delay rule both in the letter and in the spirit.
 
 
 
Eh. A hose-beast could have 20 or more bbs in flight before the target reacts to the first hit, shouts, add another .15 seconds for the sound to reach the shooter (that's 4 bbs at 30rps just in itself) and then for the finger to come off the trigger.
 
Again though, that's an issue with ROF, and unless you're dumping your load at a few metres or you really do have the mythical "shoots like a laser" toy that's actually accurate at 50m+, it's unlikely to ever be that bad.
 
I've never felt overshot in woodland.
 
I have felt pretty aggrieved when a whole squad was taken out by some joker trigger-spamming a DMR from beyond our effective range though, and if you only allow semi auto, I agree that's where the game will go.
 

Not generally enforced here, but to perhaps shed some light perhaps its a way of forcing the hicap heroes to stop dumping half a mag into every bush that twitches then claim they couldnt hear the screams of hit over the sound of their arp.
 
I dont mind auto, but it does strike me that a lot of folk dont seem to remember their rifle has a selector switch.

And that his jackhammers were real.
 
 

I had an enthusiastic chap tell me a WE M14 had similar recoil to the real thing. 
 
Guessing he'd never shot a .308 or any kind of firearm...

In a sales thread:
"Only used once in the back yard"

That's what she said 

How about the biggest fallacy of all times, told by the airsofter to himself or other people :
 
" if i buy this replica/gear, i'll have all i need/want and will defo not need to buy anything else ".
 
 
 

If they did you'd get Systema prices for market stall springer performance 

Pirrelli knew what they were talking about, if only they made hop rubbers 🤔
(& Carlsberg made gats🤤)

'Member the lad who rage-quit when told that an airsoft L85 wouldn't be any more accurate or longer ranged than an MP5?  Just wasn't having any of those obvious lies from us know-nothings.

I see your FAMAS and raise you that Redcap was proper military policeman.

In my experience a decent hop up unit that's properly set up will give a better increase in range than simply dropping in a more powerful spring

Like most religious beliefs, this one is never not funny.
 

Higher fps means more range

What were you lead to believe or just had a misconception of when first getting in to airsoft, which later turned out to be completely untrue? Alternatively what have you read/been told/overheard and straightaway knew it was utter BS? I'm not talking about any contentious teching habits etc but things which we can all agree upon.
 
One that springs to mind is someone genuinely believed if they put an 80 degree hop bucking in their WE G17, it would make it fire at 490fps because it said on the guide to their Maple Leaf rubber "80 degree: 490 FPS up" 

Do what you enjoy within the rules of the game 😉
It may or may not contribute to winning but if you just want kills...
 
Personally I like the team aspect and get a buzz completing an objective with a group even if I don't fire a shot.
Though I'll also go sneakin to attack from different angles sometimes.

Pre loaded magazines that are packed in your kit are fine.
 
Slotting one in the gun could be heading to ‘transporting a loaded air weapon’ (but would also breach the rules of loaded guns in the safe zone as you unpack, and as you’ve thought about it enough to ask the question I’ll classify you as not a dick)
 
((Technically airsoft guns are no longer low power airweapons with a new(ish) entry in firearms legislation that exempts compliant airsoft guns from being a firearm))
 
 

You'd have to have a run in with a weapons grade jobsworth for them to have an issue with that.