hunter511

In response to the above...... apparently there's even a couple of airsofters who've succesfully purchased item from Special Airsoft Supplies......

Yep, always been the way.  Problem is in this budget range you don't get as much consistency in the manufacturing or QC/QA checks.
 
"The death of one man is a tragedy.  The death of millions is a statistic."
 
The turnover of airsoft players is too regular for it to become common knowledge that anyone's individual experience of a given brand is, not to be harsh, but essentially worthless (until aggregated).  If someone's had dozens of items from a brand over a few years and looked at them closely and compared to others.. it's slightly more relevant, but still nothing concrete.  I've seen people get insanely unlucky multiple times with proven and objectively quality brands and 1-2 actually have multiple Ares guns that lasted years of heavy play.
 
Posting "my experience with X item bought at Y time" is fine and you add it to the pile for others to read and do with as they see fit.  Someone like Luke at NA is maybe one rare example of an individual who sees probably hundreds of guns a year and has done for years and can say "Z brand is likely to be decent for ABC reasons" with some amount of credence, but everyone else - 99% chance you're not sufficiently qualified to make such a statement.  Even if you've been playing very regularly for 20 years and travelling all over, you might glean a bit of an inkling but brands and models come and go very rapidly, quality levels rise and fall in the space of months some time.  Constantly aggregating the necessary data points in short enough a time isn't really feasible for the vast majority.

Nope he's talking about the gas SMG a few posts up from your last one.

I would also recommend that the retailer cover up the box too 😳

leave it stock, use the right gas, clean it.

I'm just glad to see some different historical pistols. What I wouldn't give for a TM browning hi power or makarov. I mean it's not like they are uncommon... 

To be fair to site operators thats kinda linked to the "herding cats/inability of airsofters to understand safety briefing in 5 game on in 15".
 
Don't get we wrong I remember trying a new site locally (run by company whose name rhymes with "burst and lonely") who thought naming and giving origin stories for each of the marshalls followed by a round of applause was an integral part of the safety brief to paying customers (see also taking the players out of the safe zone into a literally sub-zero temperature area to give a 45min brief).

I dunno mate. Naff pretty much describes the airsoft aspects of the weekend.....
Pretty sure individually pulling out my pubes with tweezers would also be more fun than attending......

Welp......
 
Somethings gotta go in the holsters of all the "2nd hand" russkit thats coming out the ukraine at the moment......

To be fair to site operators thats kinda linked to the "herding cats/inability of airsofters to understand safety briefing in 5 game on in 15".
 
Don't get we wrong I remember trying a new site locally (run by company whose name rhymes with "burst and lonely") who thought naming and giving origin stories for each of the marshalls followed by a round of applause was an integral part of the safety brief to paying customers (see also taking the players out of the safe zone into a literally sub-zero temperature area to give a 45min brief).

Iirc throwing airsoft parts inside a Deact is reactivating.......
 
Id rather not be the legal test case, especially if the spring is a bit "spicy" or in this case if the police lab playing with the regulator makes the fps go up.....
 
Definitely regard as playing with Fire

In his defense if its a cheap eotech clone the reticle is probably clearer and more visible from the front.....

Is it worth pinning a reccomend not to buy list in here following the recent trend of I've bought a (for example) Raven model XXX and its new out of the box and doesnt work?
 
In my case stuff I wouldn't touch under any circumstances without trying the exact item Im going to buy in the shop first. (Source I've been playing airsoft since 1995 I have a reasonable of experience in buying kit)
 
Raven (any)
Nuprol (rebranded WE with slightly more QC than Raven)
Vorsk
 

Don't get me wrong its an okay pissup/camping weekend with dogshit airsoft thrown in...... however for the same money there's at least 1 local festival which does the weekend camp/pissup/goodtimes with mates better and costs the same.

Portsmouth based myself, figured "fuck it a game day is better than a sunday sat round bored" turned out I was wrong.
 
@CannonfoddertCannonfodderthis was just a normal walk on with less people and therefore supposedly better marshall to punter ratio. My NAF stories are worse. That said all the marshalls on that day were too busy stood in a group discussin their saturday night to actually get involved in running the games.

In his defense if its a cheap eotech clone the reticle is probably clearer and more visible from the front.....

To be fair to site operators thats kinda linked to the "herding cats/inability of airsofters to understand safety briefing in 5 game on in 15".
 
Don't get we wrong I remember trying a new site locally (run by company whose name rhymes with "burst and lonely") who thought naming and giving origin stories for each of the marshalls followed by a round of applause was an integral part of the safety brief to paying customers (see also taking the players out of the safe zone into a literally sub-zero temperature area to give a 45min brief).

The only brand I'd add to that list is Socom Gear, but I haven't seen anything from them for years

Pretty much. If I'm going to sit in a field getting pissed for the weekend then there's no way I'm paying 100 odd quid for it
 
That's about the standard for the NAF and it gets worse on the Sunday afternoon. A highlight for me was the kid who I shot in the chest from about 10 yards with my 8mm shotgun. He then ducked into the ferns (I could see them moving as he moved) and when he stuck his head up again I gave him the good news, at which point he started bitching about overkill.
 
As for the marshals, I got the impression they were more interested in struting around going look at me in my hi vis vest, I'm important than doing their job.
 
The last part which really put me off returning was the number of idiots walking round the safezone with a finger on the trigger and the safety off. Combine this with I hardly saw anyone actually make sure they didn't have one up the spout and I'm surprised nobody lost an eye

Portsmouth based myself, figured "fuck it a game day is better than a sunday sat round bored" turned out I was wrong.
 
@CannonfoddertCannonfodderthis was just a normal walk on with less people and therefore supposedly better marshall to punter ratio. My NAF stories are worse. That said all the marshalls on that day were too busy stood in a group discussin their saturday night to actually get involved in running the games.

Hey at least they chrono......
 
I went to a walk on day at ground zero and they didnt bother. Oddly enough myself and the guys I went there with walked off at lunchtime after "oops we've forgot the chrono, anyone got a hot gun"
"HPA players you're all set to legal fps, right" and the ever classic "your first mistake was using midcaps here".
 
That last one was after identifying a particularly obviously dressed player to a marshall having expended 2 mags at him at close range and been ignored (the rifle I was using at the time was notorious for being freakishly accurate and consistant, it was like a laser and at the kind of range that bbs could be seen bouncing off him).

Hey at least they chrono......
 
I went to a walk on day at ground zero and they didnt bother. Oddly enough myself and the guys I went there with walked off at lunchtime after "oops we've forgot the chrono, anyone got a hot gun"
"HPA players you're all set to legal fps, right" and the ever classic "your first mistake was using midcaps here".
 
That last one was after identifying a particularly obviously dressed player to a marshall having expended 2 mags at him at close range and been ignored (the rifle I was using at the time was notorious for being freakishly accurate and consistant, it was like a laser and at the kind of range that bbs could be seen bouncing off him).

I dunno mate. Naff pretty much describes the airsoft aspects of the weekend.....
Pretty sure individually pulling out my pubes with tweezers would also be more fun than attending......

I dunno mate. Naff pretty much describes the airsoft aspects of the weekend.....
Pretty sure individually pulling out my pubes with tweezers would also be more fun than attending......

I dunno mate. Naff pretty much describes the airsoft aspects of the weekend.....
Pretty sure individually pulling out my pubes with tweezers would also be more fun than attending......