Tommikka

Similar situation with me once, not female influence but the sensible corner of my brain regarding keeping hold of an > £1500 gun that I only used once or twice, leant out more than I used it and also in a period of time where there was a fair second hand market. I had no need for the money, chose my bottom price - if too low then I may as well keep it in the armoury. So I listed it and took it out for ‘a last play’ Then waited I think it took nearly two years to sell I got offers of £200 & £300, and disgruntled messages when I rejected them : Its not worth it - (it either is or isn’t, in which case I’m not selling ) If I want to sell it / need the money I’ll have to accept low offers - (I don’t want / need to sell, I don’t have to accept any offers ) It’s cheaper new nowadays - I’m not asking anywhere near to the new price & that ‘cheaper’ one is a smaller version (The ‘standard full’ version held its new price, the cheaper one didn’t have the full foregrip, stock, case, extras - and you could now buy them as addons. (buy a new one then) This limited edition colour scheme isn’t so special (buy a standard colour then) Its old, second hand, battered etc (yes to the first two, hence the second hand price, it just has a bit of rub on the barrel tip, otherwise it’s mint with a very low shot count - if you don’t like mine for my price then don’t buy it) Its not limited edition, and is still available in the UK at X shop (No it’s not available, try buying it from them then …. Try hazarding a guess as to why one UK shop lists it but the manufacturer & their home country, and no where else in the world does - either they have one they’ve been sitting on, or it’s just still on their catalogue as they list everything as in stock. However I knew they didn’t have it) After replying to or ignoring many messages one day I get an offer, accept, sell. I’m happy he’s happy …… and bearing in mind that I bought it on a trade price - which I think they got wrong due to how low I paid or subsidised my price, and sold at not much less I was very happy

To break them in you wear them for 22 years

We have a shield that has been used for a couple of events, and for safety with our sentry gun However on the safety side it’s much better for a Marshall to dive right in while another flicks the kill switch - if a Marshall is worried about being overshot then they shouldn’t be Marshalling and also are getting in the way (happily we never had an incident where we needed to act to stop someone constantly being shot whilst injured etc) For gameplay shields should only be used in limited situations and as above the player using it will be restricted - even if that’s just the physical restriction of one hand holding the shield and one holding a pistol etc

Don’t worry. He’ll be paying dearly for the use of inappropriate footwear in a few years time. Last weekend I was at a show for the first time in 15 months. When standing my right foot was in pain, if I shifted my body weight my left knee threatened to pop out and collapse, if I sat down my bad back and twisted spine ached….. Who wants to tell him that his ‘ninja’ wear is based on blacked out stage hands?

Have they informed their insurers that they don’t follow basic standard safety mitigation’s and have potential additional public liability risk in the case of injury ? I also assume of course that Anzio doesn’t refer to the MoDs Anzio training camp, as any organiser wouldn’t bypass safety checks and risk loss of their licence to use the facilities from Landmarc//DIO/MoD (((Scrap my comments, as Stratton has qualified that they do chrono, just don’t tag etc)))

Both Les & Peter still hanging on

Damn - you’ve beaten me this time! Usually it’s been the opposite argument such as an airgun is a firearm and not an imitation. (Which we’ll continue to disagree on) But this time you’re right - a Lego IF will now be a RIF

No. For VCRA purposes an airsoft pistol that looked like that would still qualify as an IF. The legislation does not define a RIF as ‘looks like an actual gun’ but more of ‘looks like a gun to Joe Bloggs, unless it’s below a size, too old a design or >50% of specified bright colours’ No matter what colour it is the genuine lego style pistol is a firearm, and a lookalike airsoft pistol would be an IF Chavvy McChavface doesn’t want a real gun to look like a toy, he wants it to look like a gun and intimidate so that he doesn’t actually have to shoot the guy behind the till for a few hundred pounds

It had been against PayPal rules for a period of time, but they legitimised using PayPal for airsoft among transactions for gun related things that are legal in the country concerned

There’s so much stupid around ”Friends and family as a courtesy” !!!!!!!! Not very courteous to PayPal to use their software, computers, financial services and integration with banking for free. The courteous element is that they offer a no fee service with Friends and family …… and then people wonder why they have problems when things go wrong

But, did you see the match ?

Or as an airgun it is a firearm Thus not an imitation https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/firearms On another tack, would painting it bright blue make it into just an IF? If it’s an airgun then it’s an airgun whether it’s black or brightly coloured

If singing Trekkers is a bit much, perhaps it’s time for an instrumental https://youtu.be/pDlZLsJJkVA

There’s no problem until there’s a problem As it’s a workplace if an individual is injured then it becomes reportable to the HSE. (No need to report a non work related accident, but there is the need to report injuries to non workers) Its up to the owner to decide whether they need to report or not, if the HSE get wind of it and decide it was reportable then that’s a big issue For wider safety on controlled access a scrapyard will be in a better position than random woods - assuming it’s fenced off etc due to the nature of scrap and it’s value. Its up to you and the owner, provided nothing gets out, nobody complains etc then there’s generally no legal issue in itself. Provided things are run in a safe and controlled manner then things are less likely to go wrong, and if they do then there’s less risk of things going badly wrong. If something does go wrong then it can go badly for the business owner Meadows and orchards can be a different matter. Isolation probably means no one is likely stumble into a game, but it happens.

Those are scary words to me ’Informal games’ sets off quiet alarm bells. The risks & lines of responsibility of keeping control of safety for both players and anyone else ’Local scrapyard’ brings in a business and the owners taken on a liability by permitting the activity - or there’s trespassing and more danger between people who are allowed to be there and those who are trespassing

Legally it is the importers responsibility. On a personal international sale the buyer is the importer. The sender is contractually responsible for declaring international packages with the carrier they despatch. If it goes wrong then the specifics will effect whether or not the buyer can claim back money from the sender

Rogerborg & I agree to disagree on the position of lookalike airguns He argues the case that looking like a ‘real’ gun can render them RIFs, but I argue that the status of airguns/air weapons in firearms legislation renders them a firearm thus cannot be an IF/RIF under the VCRA If the border force letter there are a series of ‘ors’ in the references The VCRA doesn’t require a RIF to look like a real firearm, but that someone may believe that it is a real firearm. (The paragraph stating that it must not need an expert to confirm it’s not real). Therefore basing on a fictional design isn’t an exemption In earlier versions of legislation there was the possibility that an airsoft gun could be an air weapon, which conflicted with the VCRA imitation status. There have been amendments which include treating airsoft guns as exempt from firearms legislation providing they comply with power limits etc In paintball it’s less black & white. A paintball gun is an air weapon, which caused difficulties in Scotland due to operating on co2 (in England a blind eye was turned) until the legislation was changed (And in later years flagged worries about Scotland’s air weapon certificate) This would mean that paintball guns must operate within 12 ft pounds, or pistols at 6 ft pounds - many events would run a lower velocity limit for this. There were arguments that all or the majority of paintball guns failed to qualify as an air rifle thus would be overpowered and should be limited to 6ft pounds. Case law gave 300 and a bit fps as a velocity limit and may avoid the 6 ft pounds problem The Home Office and UKPSF have corresponded a lot over the years and there are a number of interpretations of how the various legislation & case law effect paintball - including the VCRA The VCRA answer isn’t absolute - it covers that paintball guns may be low power air weapons, thus firearms and VCRA exempt and RIF/IF can be ignored, but they added that if tested in court it may be treated as in or out of the VCRA and that UKPSF membership may or may not be considered good enough for a VCRA defence - ideally I prefer the former as a lawyer could easily separate paintball from airsoft skirmishing and void any VCRA defence The Home Office have made it clear that their interpretations for paintball rely on the frangible nature of the paintball - so if you shoot something else then you’ll be treated as an air weapon and must not fall foul of too much energy In the VCRA a RIF is an imitation that is realistic, therefore a firearm isn’t an IF or RIF, there are also the colour, size and design age elements that allow qualification as an IF (eg Joe Bloggs thinks it looks like a real gun, but it’s small enough to overule their first impression - but that doesn’t mean Mr Chav hasn’t committed other offences waving it around in Mr Bloggs face) VCRA section 38: 1)In sections 36 and 37 “realistic imitation firearm” means an imitation firearm which— (a)has an appearance that is so realistic as to make it indistinguishable, for all practical purposes, from a real firearm; and (b)is neither a de-activated firearm nor itself an antique. (2)For the purposes of this section, an imitation firearm is not (except by virtue of subsection (3)(b)) to be regarded as distinguishable from a real firearm for any practical purpose if it could be so distinguished only— (a)by an expert; (b)on a close examination; or (c)as a result of an attempt to load or to fire it.

It should be resolvable with your UKARA details, and worth a look at the recent update from@mightyjebus Border Force likely to be getting grumpy over the non-defenced imports

I wonder how many of those had posted on this forum in the last year with their clever idea to workaround the VCRA defences

There’s a hefty thread here on the situation for the last few months : Note that in the original post of this thread Novritch is right - though customs clearance is based on the declared information and any checks on the contents it is the importer who is responsible. There can be a pot luck situation regarding which depots are involved, and whether you get stuck in a bottomless pit - you could have packages stuck in backlogs for months whilst more recent ones pass throuh. There may also be an issue with one package holding up a batch

I’ve used treatstock for 3D printing, you will need the files to upload so if you don’t have them then thingverse has quite a few magpul designs https://www.treatstock.co.uk/ https://www.thingiverse.com

There are defiantly people who don’t like to be chronoed (and also take great offence at in game checks) But tough. No chrono = no play, and if they can’t get their shit together to chrono when it’s been open while they were dithering around and they have to wait before going to play then that’s there problem It also sparks my suspicion if they object too much ….

Some random comments: As well as potential charity status, look into any local business intiatives such as those under BID schemes etc with partnerships between councils and local business organisations etc These may have subsidies or waivers on rent & rates for the first year etc https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_improvement_district Moveable ‘walls’ are always a good idea. A fairly basic is Heras fencing which can be moved with a covering, a better solution is a framework with either movable wall panels (quite a bit of work), fixed wall panels with a door in every room but hangable panels that block doors, or a framework with panels forming long wide corridors and a mix of wall panels that can be relocated with some effort and doors/panels that can be moved between games Ensure that game areas are not designed with either attack or defend but a combination of attack & defend - it must be possible for one person to have a last stand, but also that one person doesn’t end up dominating a whole game Stags/companies/parties: For rental groups they mostly don’t care if they are sound paintball/.50” paintball/airsoft/laser/nerf. They are after a fun day out, but they might be looking for a particular one Utilities: Particularly when indoors AEG users will be interested in charging facilities - this is an extra cost to your bill but it’s a value added feature. Neighbours: Keep everyone happy, ensure they are aware of the activities - banging and shooting noises, and lots of people driving around & parking. (Plus potential smokers/vapers stood around) Catering: Vending machines are beaten by having a caterer, but there is a balance between ensuring it’s worth their while to turn up. If you provide catering then you have to comply with all food prep & storage, if you have a caterer then you only provide a suitable area (clean etc) Experience training days: You dont need a true super special ex SAS instructor. You need someone credible who can give an ‘experience’ suitable for the people. There are many ex forces businesses that will come down and run custom sessions. Once established or depending on who your staff are then this can be done in house. Ive attended events with experience sessions by training companies, by trade staff, by teams and we have run them with our ex military’s members (one is a former instructor) …. and also without our ex military. We’ve done some ‘real tactics’ but aimed at the context of ‘playing games’ - death is not a consequence, so you can change tactics when the worst case scenario is that you have to respawn Rental equipment: You need a minimal number to cover the largest party you will have at one time plus spares for failures. Diversify: Your goal may be airsoft, but the more choices you have the better chance of customers: Airsoft - easy to sweep up Low impact .50” paintball (springer pump action) Attracts kids birthday parties. Fairly easy to sweep up, and low level of cleaning - power wash or gardening style backpack pump sprayer Full .50” paintball True paintball in the lower .50” calibre You will need a compressed air system (greater expense) but it’s available for HPA airsofters This will need more cleaning than the .50” springers Note that indoors you have the added risk of slips and falls on a hard surface. Paintball residue can be easily washed away with pressure washers etc as long as you don’t have excessive firing going on. But think about how slippery the floor may be. We’ve gone for sawdust on some indoor games (after testing it for flammability with pyro) Sawdust adds some slipability by itself, but you should have rules against running to make people step properly …. Which brings to another safety issue of CQB - oversight Rooms are very hard to Marshall, both for rules & safety If you have an overhead platform you can mix ground level and above level - someone to see what’s going on and someone to deal with the emergency

A suppressor aims to capture fast moving, hot pressurised gases, and to slow & cool them for as long as possible before exhausting the gas. Here are some demonstrations of how some (non standard) designs work (or fail) …. a longer version with more explanation of what’s going on plus heat & sound patterns This one goes into a short run through of classic baffling, and shows the principle exhausting out of the front of a suppressor: