Tommikka

‘Originally originally’, further back in time, magazines were fixed giving greater capacity than one shot, and there were some rifles that had a single removable magazine on a wire to avoid soldiers losing them. Today they are relatively a lot cheaper, but still need a fair bit of work to produce a magazine making them much more expensive than stripper clips etc, but logistics remains a key issue as well as the cost of disposable magazines.

C/L class don’t necessarily mean it’s use & dump. A C class is a consumable - use until it’s used up (consume), don’t repair it or assess it at end of life, etc and there are no other special accounting & storage rules such as all the nice stealable kit. So you could be expected to hang onto your C class for some time, but shouldn’t be on a charge for dropping (an empty) one in Salisbury Plain Theres the other matter of resupply. No big problem on the Plain, and also no big problem to pick them up on the Plain Bring back empty magazines and you can reload them, don’t and you need a constant supply of them Out in the sunny places patrolling, if you just dump them then go back to the FOB someone has to keep sending in more magazines. Using up space, weight etc and making the RLC, AAC etc do more trips at risk of being shot at.

Ally-ness saves lives

It may depend on if the shops local to you, and if there are extra postage costs but if you shop around other retailers you may find it without the price rise

Both @Grootand @Druid799are right But I don’t agree on ‘being used to buying at below what it’s worth’ ‘Worth’ is a widely changing variable - what is X worth for Fred to buy, and what is C worth for Bob to sell? Somewhere amongst that is ‘market value’ The market value of X could be less than Bob is willing to sell at. So the supply in the market drops (or Bob lists at his price and refuses to sell below) The market value of X could be more than Fred is willing to pay, so the demand drops Supply and demand fluctuate all of the time. Certain RIF designs are everywhere —- M4s etc, and other RIF designs less so. The materials, build quality and internals could be identical but two ‘identical’ RIFs in different body styles will have different desirabilities There will be seasonal variations - in winter it’s cold, wet & miserable and you have to buy aunt Enid a Christmas present - slippers would do, but if you throw in a case of Babysham too she’ll slip a few extra notes into your card. Sell last years RIF before Christmas and you could get back more via Enid to buy this years shiney RIF So the pre-Xmas market gets flooded and prices drop, followed by Boxing Day shopping and prices begin to rise. Wait until your birthday in Spring and you get more cash just in time to get back to playing - another potential rise in the market when the sellers see how desperate the fair weather players are in the wanted ads as they now have no guns.

This is very nieche, and is sought out by the few who may use one, but will be a very expensive and very limited ‘weapon’ in a game. Anybody using one in game is going to be shot a lot more than they are going to hit anyone. There was the AirRow now a few years back and was sold for a very short time. Existing ones are closely held by those who own them and I’ve seen a few that have considered selling but quickly fall through as they won’t let it go The AirRow was primarily sold for paintball but had airsoft and lead pellet versions, and was approx £500 complete with bow or about half that for the fittings excluding bow, but as in the thread below someone bought just the kit thinking they would get a ‘better’ bow for the money, but spent the same overall for an equivalent and the shop staff spent hours getting it all set up together Someone who’s experienced and has an existing bow would find it easier https://p8ntballer-forums.com/threads/thinking-of-getting-an-airow-gun.158448/

Correct, it is from China. Enola Gaye have their own factory out there

Similar situation with me once, not female influence but the sensible corner of my brain regarding keeping hold of an > £1500 gun that I only used once or twice, leant out more than I used it and also in a period of time where there was a fair second hand market. I had no need for the money, chose my bottom price - if too low then I may as well keep it in the armoury. So I listed it and took it out for ‘a last play’ Then waited I think it took nearly two years to sell I got offers of £200 & £300, and disgruntled messages when I rejected them : Its not worth it - (it either is or isn’t, in which case I’m not selling ) If I want to sell it / need the money I’ll have to accept low offers - (I don’t want / need to sell, I don’t have to accept any offers ) It’s cheaper new nowadays - I’m not asking anywhere near to the new price & that ‘cheaper’ one is a smaller version (The ‘standard full’ version held its new price, the cheaper one didn’t have the full foregrip, stock, case, extras - and you could now buy them as addons. (buy a new one then) This limited edition colour scheme isn’t so special (buy a standard colour then) Its old, second hand, battered etc (yes to the first two, hence the second hand price, it just has a bit of rub on the barrel tip, otherwise it’s mint with a very low shot count - if you don’t like mine for my price then don’t buy it) Its not limited edition, and is still available in the UK at X shop (No it’s not available, try buying it from them then …. Try hazarding a guess as to why one UK shop lists it but the manufacturer & their home country, and no where else in the world does - either they have one they’ve been sitting on, or it’s just still on their catalogue as they list everything as in stock. However I knew they didn’t have it) After replying to or ignoring many messages one day I get an offer, accept, sell. I’m happy he’s happy …… and bearing in mind that I bought it on a trade price - which I think they got wrong due to how low I paid or subsidised my price, and sold at not much less I was very happy

To break them in you wear them for 22 years

We have a shield that has been used for a couple of events, and for safety with our sentry gun However on the safety side it’s much better for a Marshall to dive right in while another flicks the kill switch - if a Marshall is worried about being overshot then they shouldn’t be Marshalling and also are getting in the way (happily we never had an incident where we needed to act to stop someone constantly being shot whilst injured etc) For gameplay shields should only be used in limited situations and as above the player using it will be restricted - even if that’s just the physical restriction of one hand holding the shield and one holding a pistol etc

Don’t worry. He’ll be paying dearly for the use of inappropriate footwear in a few years time. Last weekend I was at a show for the first time in 15 months. When standing my right foot was in pain, if I shifted my body weight my left knee threatened to pop out and collapse, if I sat down my bad back and twisted spine ached….. Who wants to tell him that his ‘ninja’ wear is based on blacked out stage hands?

Have they informed their insurers that they don’t follow basic standard safety mitigation’s and have potential additional public liability risk in the case of injury ? I also assume of course that Anzio doesn’t refer to the MoDs Anzio training camp, as any organiser wouldn’t bypass safety checks and risk loss of their licence to use the facilities from Landmarc//DIO/MoD (((Scrap my comments, as Stratton has qualified that they do chrono, just don’t tag etc)))

Both Les & Peter still hanging on

Damn - you’ve beaten me this time! Usually it’s been the opposite argument such as an airgun is a firearm and not an imitation. (Which we’ll continue to disagree on) But this time you’re right - a Lego IF will now be a RIF

No. For VCRA purposes an airsoft pistol that looked like that would still qualify as an IF. The legislation does not define a RIF as ‘looks like an actual gun’ but more of ‘looks like a gun to Joe Bloggs, unless it’s below a size, too old a design or >50% of specified bright colours’ No matter what colour it is the genuine lego style pistol is a firearm, and a lookalike airsoft pistol would be an IF Chavvy McChavface doesn’t want a real gun to look like a toy, he wants it to look like a gun and intimidate so that he doesn’t actually have to shoot the guy behind the till for a few hundred pounds

It had been against PayPal rules for a period of time, but they legitimised using PayPal for airsoft among transactions for gun related things that are legal in the country concerned

There’s so much stupid around ”Friends and family as a courtesy” !!!!!!!! Not very courteous to PayPal to use their software, computers, financial services and integration with banking for free. The courteous element is that they offer a no fee service with Friends and family …… and then people wonder why they have problems when things go wrong

But, did you see the match ?

Or as an airgun it is a firearm Thus not an imitation https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/firearms On another tack, would painting it bright blue make it into just an IF? If it’s an airgun then it’s an airgun whether it’s black or brightly coloured

If singing Trekkers is a bit much, perhaps it’s time for an instrumental https://youtu.be/pDlZLsJJkVA

There’s no problem until there’s a problem As it’s a workplace if an individual is injured then it becomes reportable to the HSE. (No need to report a non work related accident, but there is the need to report injuries to non workers) Its up to the owner to decide whether they need to report or not, if the HSE get wind of it and decide it was reportable then that’s a big issue For wider safety on controlled access a scrapyard will be in a better position than random woods - assuming it’s fenced off etc due to the nature of scrap and it’s value. Its up to you and the owner, provided nothing gets out, nobody complains etc then there’s generally no legal issue in itself. Provided things are run in a safe and controlled manner then things are less likely to go wrong, and if they do then there’s less risk of things going badly wrong. If something does go wrong then it can go badly for the business owner Meadows and orchards can be a different matter. Isolation probably means no one is likely stumble into a game, but it happens.

Those are scary words to me ’Informal games’ sets off quiet alarm bells. The risks & lines of responsibility of keeping control of safety for both players and anyone else ’Local scrapyard’ brings in a business and the owners taken on a liability by permitting the activity - or there’s trespassing and more danger between people who are allowed to be there and those who are trespassing

Legally it is the importers responsibility. On a personal international sale the buyer is the importer. The sender is contractually responsible for declaring international packages with the carrier they despatch. If it goes wrong then the specifics will effect whether or not the buyer can claim back money from the sender

Rogerborg & I agree to disagree on the position of lookalike airguns He argues the case that looking like a ‘real’ gun can render them RIFs, but I argue that the status of airguns/air weapons in firearms legislation renders them a firearm thus cannot be an IF/RIF under the VCRA If the border force letter there are a series of ‘ors’ in the references The VCRA doesn’t require a RIF to look like a real firearm, but that someone may believe that it is a real firearm. (The paragraph stating that it must not need an expert to confirm it’s not real). Therefore basing on a fictional design isn’t an exemption In earlier versions of legislation there was the possibility that an airsoft gun could be an air weapon, which conflicted with the VCRA imitation status. There have been amendments which include treating airsoft guns as exempt from firearms legislation providing they comply with power limits etc In paintball it’s less black & white. A paintball gun is an air weapon, which caused difficulties in Scotland due to operating on co2 (in England a blind eye was turned) until the legislation was changed (And in later years flagged worries about Scotland’s air weapon certificate) This would mean that paintball guns must operate within 12 ft pounds, or pistols at 6 ft pounds - many events would run a lower velocity limit for this. There were arguments that all or the majority of paintball guns failed to qualify as an air rifle thus would be overpowered and should be limited to 6ft pounds. Case law gave 300 and a bit fps as a velocity limit and may avoid the 6 ft pounds problem The Home Office and UKPSF have corresponded a lot over the years and there are a number of interpretations of how the various legislation & case law effect paintball - including the VCRA The VCRA answer isn’t absolute - it covers that paintball guns may be low power air weapons, thus firearms and VCRA exempt and RIF/IF can be ignored, but they added that if tested in court it may be treated as in or out of the VCRA and that UKPSF membership may or may not be considered good enough for a VCRA defence - ideally I prefer the former as a lawyer could easily separate paintball from airsoft skirmishing and void any VCRA defence The Home Office have made it clear that their interpretations for paintball rely on the frangible nature of the paintball - so if you shoot something else then you’ll be treated as an air weapon and must not fall foul of too much energy In the VCRA a RIF is an imitation that is realistic, therefore a firearm isn’t an IF or RIF, there are also the colour, size and design age elements that allow qualification as an IF (eg Joe Bloggs thinks it looks like a real gun, but it’s small enough to overule their first impression - but that doesn’t mean Mr Chav hasn’t committed other offences waving it around in Mr Bloggs face) VCRA section 38: 1)In sections 36 and 37 “realistic imitation firearm” means an imitation firearm which— (a)has an appearance that is so realistic as to make it indistinguishable, for all practical purposes, from a real firearm; and (b)is neither a de-activated firearm nor itself an antique. (2)For the purposes of this section, an imitation firearm is not (except by virtue of subsection (3)(b)) to be regarded as distinguishable from a real firearm for any practical purpose if it could be so distinguished only— (a)by an expert; (b)on a close examination; or (c)as a result of an attempt to load or to fire it.

It should be resolvable with your UKARA details, and worth a look at the recent update from@mightyjebus Border Force likely to be getting grumpy over the non-defenced imports