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TL:DR - This is the working prototype of my Airsoft EM-2 rifle. I designed and made this, mostly by CNC machining solid Aluminium and Walnut. I've only made one. I'm posting it here for the great Airsoft Hive mind to tell me what they think one might be worth if I were to make any for sale. Longer but still briefly 🙂 The story of the Janson 'Automatic Rifle, .280 in, E.M. 2' is a relatively minor but interesting bit of British Firearms history, and the Bullpup design and 0.280 inch / 7mm calibre choices were way ahead of their time. The rifle was actually adopted, briefly, in 1951 as the UK's new standard Service Weapon to replace the aging Lee Enfield's and Stens after WW2. But Politics, and especially American insistance on what would become the NATO standard 7.62mm round, saw it un-adopted only a few months later (by Winston Churchill no less!) and no 'Rifle 7mm, No.9, Mk1' was ever actually produced. I started trying to make myself a reasonable Airsoft version of Stefan Jansons EM-2 around 4 or 5 years ago, before the OTT videogame versions appeared btw 🙂. Teaching myself a bit about hobby scale CNC machining and 3D CAD/CAM as I went along . . . I'll let you imagine what my first attempts looked like! and how much wood and metal I wasted, and how many tool bits I've broken! I began making my Airsoft version based on a copy of one of the original blueprints for the 'Rifle 7mm, No.9, Mk1.', and later on corrected it a lot after I had the rare and utterly invaluble privilege of being able to compare my initial efforts with a real steel example, courtesy of Mr Jonathan Ferguson, Keeper of Firearms & Artillery at the Royal Armouries Museum in Leeds. Jonathan is also the Author of the definitive 'Thorneycroft to SA80. British Bullpup Firearms 1901-2020', which has two chapters on the E.M.2 and its history. Without Jonathan's book and his help answering questions on a most memorable day in Leeds my version wouldn't look anything like the real thing does. The major parts of the prototype are made from CNC'd solid Aluminium and solid Walnut planks with a steel outer barrel and real Walnut veneer. It is fitted with a Wolverine Inferno HPA engine as there just isn't room for a gearbox inside the EM-2's frame and the inner barrel is 600mm long stainless steel. This project has taken a lot longer and cost a lot more than I imagined it would when I started. Obviously the thought of selling them, if only to make some of my money back(!) has crossed my mind, and I've spoken to a couple of people about the idea. But the consensus seemed to be there wouldn't be enough demand to justify having a batch of them professionally manufactured, even if I have already done most of the R&D, and without professional production and their economy of scale savings, the unit price and the time needed for me to make each one makes it almost certainly uneconomic to do so. But just recently while corresponding with a user on the forum I thought hey, I may as well ask what other Airsofters think a realistic price for it would be? and if anyone would want to buy one if they could? So, over to you Hive mind 🙂

A piggy back mount for an Aimpoint Acro P2 for my SPR build. It's just a smidge too low as the elevation turret marginally blocks the view window but it's still usable

Obviously if that had happened here, i would have acted on the reports immediately................ And probably bought it😈

Ukrainian DIU loadout. Genuine Ukrainian MTP, patches and cap badge. The left arm patch patch was a gift. 😁 The Bizon was clearly liberated from an ageing Spetsnaz operator.

So the solution is replace "hide" with delete and fully delete adverts and save Tackle being bombarded with messages 😂

I love it, but I've wanted one for about 25 years. This one's on the gun picture thread as I finally finished it this week. It's Cyma, but one of their more expensive models, so as stock it performs as well as you'd expect. Obviously, the real niche is the magazine. Reloading takes some drilling but I've got it down to about 5-6 seconds now (mag out, new mag in, old mag in pouch). The low-caps hold about 190 BBs and I tend to run 4 + 1 hi-cap backup (~1000). Magazine storage seems to be an issue for many but I repurposed my P90/UMP double mag pouches and they're perfect. Ergonomically, it's well balanced, heavy (full metal) and the chunky 'foregrip' of the magazine feels great in my clown-sized hands 😄. I completely removed the stock on mine as a preference for airsoft, but it can be operated with the stock folded usually. Accessories are limited, even by AK standards. I had to fit the 2 front side rails myself using a massively over-engineered improv. The shortened cover and receiver may also cause problems. Obviously, there's no front grip options. Mine's been kitted out with Zenitco repros and other Russian stuff simply for authenticity- style beats substance for me every time. All told, it's my current favourite (don't tell my KS-1 😄), but I'd certainly recommend holding one before you pull the trigger on a shopping cart, as it does seem to be a bit 'Marmite'. Sorry if that was TMI...

No Bull, I like it 👍

That literally hides them from view, its not a "hard" delete unfortunately. I'm happy to delete some for members (lol, im probably gonna regret this😱), just send me the URL.

Just to make people aware, I placed an order with Outdoor Zone in Ireland. I received it yesterday and they had sent me the wrong model. They refused to pay for return shipping even though it was their mistake... It was an all metal AEG.. Not the lightest or cheapest to return! I know it's only a little thing, however it's something to consider if you decide to shop with them

Yes done this many of time and with many ak’s / variants, real steel wood handguards fit with slight modification, repo zenitco is the same along with other brands of Ak, some slight filing and sanding to achieve the perfect fitment, repo zenitco stocks are the same some slight sanding and filling, basically anything you want to add to your pew will need some form of modification to get it to fit but nothing major

This is really a bit of a self-indulgent moan about the internet not being the way I like it anymore, I expect the appeal of this thread (or otherwise) will largely hinge on your age, but anyway... I'm in a few airsoft related Discord groups, namely because they contain info I can't get anywhere else and are by and large far more active than forums. But for the love of Christ, the experience of using them is painful. Having an ever scrolling wall of text, out of context replies to prior comments punctuated by sporadic memes just makes my head hurt. I just can't fathom why anyone would prefer this over a forum thread, other than the low-effort barrier to entry. What am I missing here?

I would buy a GBB version! Way beyond my very limited engineering skills sadly. Going way back, the original design was for a self contained CO2 system, so the hose is/was to be a temporary testing only thing. It's since been mentioned, pointedly, that high pressure gas systems of any kind might need a bit of testing and regulatory approval if they were to be put on sale! (If you look at the top of the trigger group in the last picture, you can see a section of copper pipe. That is/was part of the CO2 system) So yes the position of the HPA connection would very definitely change. I haven't thought it through but 1st idea would be to make a connection at the rear sling attachment point, very preferably flush with the butt.

Well... my rubber prop EM-2 cost £230, your 1 off working Em-2 should certainly be worth asking 4-5 times that. I agree with mightyjebus regarding the HPA tho.

A couple of thoughts, You are in the Shoei or Trigger happy price doing these as they are very custom with a lot of work to produce. The other thing worth mentioning is that it's most likely a collection piece so a way to remove or hide the HPA hose would be a good idea.

I'd absolutely buy one! I'd pay around £900 for something so unique, ideally for a gas blowback version but if not possible I'd still definitely pick up an HPA one. I know several people who'd be thirsting for a GBB one too!

Thanks for reply I will switch back to green gas w.e 2 X gas

Correct, I remember that. A bunch of us reported it from here and it stayed up for weeks!

Wasn't in UA where someone advertised a real glock and the admin did bugger all?

You won't regret it.

Good for plastic slide guns and o.k in hot weather, but probably not enough power for metal slides in colder conditions.

I ended up buying the bavtac adapter and some pure propane from plumbing supplies it’s so much cheaper than green gas Thanks for the help and advice again everyone

Thanks all, I'll get to hiding them then. An odd choice of nomenclature all in all. Why not just call it "delete ad"?

144a is basically the weakest gas available for Airsoft. You'll want something closer to green gas/propane.

Should be a drop down menu somewhere, under "thread moderation" maybe ?, failing that, send me a pm with the URL's of the ads you want gone and I'll delete them.

How can I actually delete an advert? I have a bunch of old completed ones but the only option I can find is to "Hide" it.

Blimey, an old Aria! That's a blast from the past! Honestly, I'm a bit out of touch with guitar prices. I was amazed to see how much a new Explorer is now given that the woods are arguably inferior to mine that I bought for a sniff under £500 in '91!

I've had good after sales from Patrol Base with faulty returns.

You have some adverts hidden, they have username so not done by Mods. I think Wanted adverts are part of the count, not just for sale ones.

I remember the same thing being said about faceache groups and pretty much every other form of social media. One of the big advantages forums have over other places is that it's easier to find previously posted information, whereas newer platforms are designed to force users to post rather than actually put in any effort to finding the answers themselves.

TBF you can easily spend that or more on an off the shelf Gibson , but not cheep certainly . Mind you , the quality is so far beyond my Gibson .Yep its a shame about the bridge , but the one they are using in it's place is pretty damn near identical .

Picked this up at a local boot fair for £5, cleaned it right up and works great (on the lef)

Thats good, this was like me when loading mine 🤣

With the winter months closing in I got the single most important piece of kit. A waterproof. It actually works pretty well and should keep my kit, my optics, and most importantly, me nice and dry without getting in the way too much. I am going to sew some velcro in to the inside of the hood so that it sticks to my cap though 20251008_201057~2.mp4

True, I freely admit to some old-git nostalgia about how much better it was in my day and all this used to be fields and a Freddo was only 5p etc…

It’s not so much the groups themselves (some have some really useful info and knowledgeable contributors) but the actual platform that I dislike. The entire UX design is just a shit experience for the kind of long form discussion that nerdy hobbies like ours benefit from.

Never used them, & on the basis of your post, I'll probably stay away from them, given my age lol

Denim and tiger, a match made in Heaven.