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  On 14/03/2025 at 16:56, Rogerborg said:

 

Huh, I'm ready to stand corrected, but didn't think there was a GBBR A3.  Why order off the shelf when you can "procure", I guess.

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Most likely they'll order a load specially made at an inflated price  then cancel it at the last minute and order a load of Chinese clones.

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  On 14/03/2025 at 11:49, Tackle said:

That'll be us then 🤪

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& as a Mod you're gonna be fast tracked to Sandhurst.

 

 

An interesting development, I see it as a possitive bit of news regarding airsoft, certainly beats the usual wally in a Tube Station waving a RIF about headlines.

If this is successful, we might be able to expect a bigger range of L85's, more Virtus kit (clones or simply more on the marketplace), possibly an incentive for airsoft manufacturers to release a range of KS1's too, which should in theory make them cheaper but demand would probably still keep the price high.

 

Realistically I honestly think this could be good for our hobby, but given the international current affairs I wouldn't be surprised if conscription wasn't seriously considered for our younger generation and the use of airsoft in recruiting is a baby step towards a much bigger end goal.

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There won’t be GBBRs, and no sudden surge of new releases to the airsoft market.

(and the L85A3 remains the standard infantry weapon, not the L40A3 which is the ‘alternative infantry weapon’ in use for two units, one of which isn’t in the Army - the replacement of the L85 will be identified by Project Grayburn with at least a year to go for contract award)

 

Its a 3 year contract tender to supply complete firing range and targeting systems - similar to that already in use by “Engagement to recruit” thus is likely to include a number of sets for recruiting teams 

 

 

 

  • Project Title
    714083450 - Provision of Airsoft Engagement Systems
  • Project Description
    Airsoft systems have been used throughout Engage to Recruit and have proved highly effective at attracting the Main Target Audience (MTA) and has a strong positive affect on Army image and recruiting. The current Airsoft system is one of the most effective engagement assets being used to support EtR. This capability needs to be expanded and grown.

    The AIRSOFT systems comprise multiple, interdependent, components as follows: 

    Electronic Target systems. 

    Airsoft L85 A3 systems. 

    Airsoft ancillaries – loader, pellets, secure cases, sights, grips, chargers, batteries. 

    Display equipment – 24’ monitor. 

    Safety equipment – backstop, netting, eye protection, barriers. 
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  On 14/03/2025 at 18:04, ButcherBill said:

 

 

Realistically I honestly think this could be good for our hobby, but given the international current affairs I wouldn't be surprised if conscription wasn't seriously considered for our younger generation and the use of airsoft in recruiting is a baby step towards a much bigger end goal.

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Never have I been more happy to be middle aged and fat.

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  On 15/03/2025 at 19:17, John_W said:

Accommodation isn't great...

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Better than the last barracks I was in.

  On 15/03/2025 at 09:58, Tommikka said:

There won’t be GBBRs, and no sudden surge of new releases to the airsoft market.

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  On 15/03/2025 at 19:17, John_W said:

Accommodation isn't great...

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Only slightly worse than the average prison cell.

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  On 16/03/2025 at 04:52, Cannonfodder said:

Should've joined the RAF then

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They have it rough as well!  An RAF chap I used to know once had to stay in a 4 star hotel.

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  On 20/03/2025 at 08:59, Tommikka said:

According to parliamentary questions, they have:

 

125 thousand L85A2s, 40 thousand L85A3s, 1620 L403A1s on order …. And a handful of Ares under tender 
 

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/mod-discloses-uk-military-rifle-numbers/

 

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Hmm, with something like 350,000 made in total, I wonder what the definition of "holds" is, and what happened to the rest.

 

Ah! I didn't imagine the imminent replacement of the L85, it's just that the "imminency" has been kicked down the road again.

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Driving home along the A720 I occasionally see squadies from 3 Rifles based at Dreghorn Barracks on a public path/training area at the base of the Pentlands, I bet if I parked up and went scouring with a metal detector I'd find a few 'souvenirs' of the L85 variety.

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