MattCoops91 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Just a quick hypothetical. When people say and 11.1v lipo will shred a cheap gearbox, what's a realistic lifespan? So for example, £60 CYMA M4 from Taiwangun, 11.1v lipo. Are we talking 10 games or ten mins? This is purely hypothetical I'm just curious as it seems to me at something like ten games £6 a games not bad even if it gets wrecked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asomodai Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Really depends on how that in individual rifle left that factory. If you get lucky it could last some time. Otherwise it might not even last a half day skirmish. You won't know until it happens. The other thing you need to think of is that due to the UK power rating, many guns will overspin like crazy on a 11.1v out of the box. So no single fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Tackle Posted February 6, 2020 Moderators Share Posted February 6, 2020 There's no real answer, too many factors involved & a gearbox is only as good as its weakest part, irrespective of the battery involved. i had a CA piston strip on its first mag, brand new gun running an 8.4, obviously the higher speeds of an 11.1 will put extra strain on parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattCoops91 Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 Ahhh I see. Thanks for the quick replies guys. I suppose it's the old adage that it's the consistency of lower priced items that's the worst. I only play once every 3-4 months so if it did last a while it could have been a viable solution instead of investing heavily in something I don't use much. I'm happy with my combat machine for now though. It's pretty weak but does the job!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted February 6, 2020 Supporters Share Posted February 6, 2020 54 minutes ago, Asomodai said: many guns will overspin like crazy on a 11.1v out of the box. Confirmed, my CYMA overspun with 11.1V. Might be because PatrolBase cut the stock spring down instead of fitting a new, lighter one, so there was very little initial load. Perfectly reasonable thing for them to do, it works fine on nimh or 7.4V, but it is a real issue with 11.1V. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Adolf Hamster Posted February 6, 2020 Supporters Share Posted February 6, 2020 depends on the gun, and tbh cheaper brands can be no more susceptible than the pricier ones. all it takes is for it to be being pushed too fast and it'll kill it in no time. if it's not going too fast it can last fine, my jg ran for ages on stock internals and 11.1v. you will want at least a basic mosfet to save the trigger contacts though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStew Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 have to echo what people have said could detonate 1st time you pull the trigger could last for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Lozart Posted February 7, 2020 Supporters Share Posted February 7, 2020 13 hours ago, MattCoops91 said: Ahhh I see. Thanks for the quick replies guys. I suppose it's the old adage that it's the consistency of lower priced items that's the worst. I only play once every 3-4 months so if it did last a while it could have been a viable solution instead of investing heavily in something I don't use much. I'm happy with my combat machine for now though. It's pretty weak but does the job!!! Weak how? There's plenty of small, low cost things you can do to improve its performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattCoops91 Posted February 7, 2020 Author Share Posted February 7, 2020 Thanks for the reply but I've actually fixed it since posting this. Took it to bits last night and the nozzle had an awful seal with the cylinder head which was causing 280fps. Much better since I changed the nozzle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrometheusX Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Everything is anecdotal. The only way to find out is to do it. Yes certain parts and materials will be weaker and more prone to failure. Saying that, there are a few very cheap or free things you can do to help cheaper setups last a lot longer on an 11v lipo. Full shs metal 14 toothed piston Cheap shs Metal piston head Cushion the back of the cylinder head to reduce shock Cheap bushing upgrade Cheap metal spring guide Rewire to deans Rewire gun to as thick guage wire as can fit Wire in a fuse Good shim job Make sure everything is well cleaned and lubed Correct the aoe Dont spam the trigger on semi Dont hold down the trigger on auto for half an hour These things come to like 20 or 30 quid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDcase Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Note to all AEG beginners... a more powerful battery (volts) will not make it shoot with higher power (fps) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattCoops91 Posted February 22, 2020 Author Share Posted February 22, 2020 2 hours ago, EDcase said: Note to all AEG beginners... a more powerful battery (volts) will not make it shoot with higher power (fps) Who said it would? (Not being a dick although it sounds like it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Tackle Posted February 22, 2020 Moderators Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 minute ago, MattCoops91 said: Who said it would? (Not being a dick although it sounds like it) There are some, usually noobs, who have openly questioned "surely more battery power equals more power in general", sometimes it's worded differently but the question is essentially the same, those kinda questions have been around the various forums probably as long as "wot am bestest gun". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDcase Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 I wasn't directed at you Matt. Its just for new players who come across this thread looking for battery info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted February 23, 2020 Supporters Share Posted February 23, 2020 16 hours ago, EDcase said: I wasn't directed at you Matt. Its just for new players who come across this thread looking for battery info Indeed, there was a chap recently who implied that his fps came down once he'd run the battery down a bit. I died a little inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDcase Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Well, I can imagine that a powerful battery can bring the piston back faster than a weak one which may affect fps a tiny bit. But certainly not worth the wear and problems it will incur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Lozart Posted February 23, 2020 Supporters Share Posted February 23, 2020 4 hours ago, EDcase said: Well, I can imagine that a powerful battery can bring the piston back faster than a weak one which may affect fps a tiny bit. But certainly not worth the wear and problems it will incur. RoF yes, FPS no. Not physically possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDcase Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Lozart said: RoF yes, FPS no. Not physically possible. Yeah, I didn't think so but there may be a tiny difference (maybe not even measurable) if the piston is brought back with enough force to slightly over-compress the spring that would give it a tiny bit more acceleration. Ignore me, I must be talkin shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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