Jelliffe99 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Posted this on another forum, forgetting this one was far better! Hi all,Stopped airsofting a few years back and have just decided to go to a few games this summer. I’m looking for the best affordable M4 on the market. When I was playing several years ago the go to was always the G&G combat machine. Has this stayed the same or is their a new winner in this category?Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asomodai Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 This is still the case generally. Though there are some close rivals now. Check out OnlyAirsoft. They are selling ASG CAA M4 for just £75 on sale. Pretty reliable by all accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted June 8, 2019 Supporters Share Posted June 8, 2019 With the Specna Arms "Edge" series making a good argument for themselves too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDcase Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 I'll second the Specna Arms range. Got an SA-E03 for £129 on sale. Very well built and shoots well. If you don't mind a polymer body then there are cheaper options which are OK. I have a CYMA which still works well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayOnTarget Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 Have to agree on the Specna arms "Edge" for what you get for your money they look to be freekin excellent,mosfet,2 mags,all metal and revised gearbox I was looking at getting an M4A1 by these but ended up with a barley used G&G version 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jelliffe99 Posted June 10, 2019 Author Share Posted June 10, 2019 Thanks chaps. Think I’ll look further into the Specna models, they do look good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostly Retired Moderators L3wisD Posted June 10, 2019 Mostly Retired Moderators Share Posted June 10, 2019 Specna fan club 😎 We're growing in size now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jelliffe99 Posted June 10, 2019 Author Share Posted June 10, 2019 4 minutes ago, L3wisD said: Specna fan club 😎 We're growing in size now I assume you’ve got one? What do you think of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostly Retired Moderators L3wisD Posted June 10, 2019 Mostly Retired Moderators Share Posted June 10, 2019 Got two that I run now. A 'Core' series (SA-C05 - top) - the backup (or 'bad back day' gun) And an 'A' series (SA-B12 - bottom) - my main rifle. Really like them. The plastic body on the core doesn't feel quite as tough as the G&G combat machine bodies do, but they come with a metal rail which is a bonus. The combat machine plastic rails don't feel nice. I've swapped the springs and hop up rubbers on both to Guarder SP100 springs and Prometheus purple rubbers. The B12 has a few more bits and pieces internally, a Prometheus barrel and a ProWin hop up unit, but the Core does just fine without these extras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagpieTactical Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 7 hours ago, L3wisD said: Got two that I run now. A 'Core' series (SA-C05 - top) - the backup (or 'bad back day' gun) And an 'A' series (SA-B12 - bottom) - my main rifle. Really like them. The plastic body on the core doesn't feel quite as tough as the G&G combat machine bodies do, but they come with a metal rail which is a bonus. The combat machine plastic rails don't feel nice. I've swapped the springs and hop up rubbers on both to Guarder SP100 springs and Prometheus purple rubbers. The B12 has a few more bits and pieces internally, a Prometheus barrel and a ProWin hop up unit, but the Core does just fine without these extras. What is the core shooting at with the guarder 100? I am contemplating an edge and getting it up to around 360, so looking for a rough guide. Was thinking an m110 probably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostly Retired Moderators L3wisD Posted June 10, 2019 Mostly Retired Moderators Share Posted June 10, 2019 The SP100 gets the Core up to 320/325. And the B12 gets 335. I put that extra increase down to the Prometheus barrel though. @ak2m4 says the SP110 Should average around 360: https://www.ak2m4.co.uk/internal-parts/springs/guarder-sp110 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagpieTactical Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Thanks for that. You are pretty happy with your Specnas, the Core looks smart as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak2m4 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 @L3wisD how are you finding the Prowin with the B12? I spent a whole day trying to get a rotary to work with an E&C gearbox and gave up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostly Retired Moderators L3wisD Posted June 11, 2019 Mostly Retired Moderators Share Posted June 11, 2019 2 hours ago, ak2m4 said: @L3wisD how are you finding the Prowin with the B12? I spent a whole day trying to get a rotary to work with an E&C gearbox and gave up. To be honest, I hear that a lot on the Specna owners Facebook group. Someone comes in, asking for hop up recommendations, so I say I've had great results with my prowin and then several people leap at me saying how the prowin sucks in the E&C shells and they don't fit. I have to admit, the unit is a very tight fit... whenever I remove or reinstall the barrel group it takes a bit of Glasgow Lube (swearing) to get it to go in. I do have the return spring left off as well, but I still get a great air-seal from it, marshals at chrono comment on how consistent it is, so that's something. And I've not had any issues with it not feeding certain mags either, it's a bit like me - It'll eat anything! Some folks on the facebook owners group say they sand down the sides of the prowin style units, but I think that's a step too far - just accept defeat and try a different unit at that point I'd say :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ak2m4 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Thanks @L3wisD, got some Maxx units here so when I get some more time going to try them and may give the rotary's another shot. Can waste an entire day on stuff like this 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostly Retired Moderators L3wisD Posted June 11, 2019 Mostly Retired Moderators Share Posted June 11, 2019 @ak2m4 - I've just found this old photo from about a year ago - you can see how tight it is from the scrapes down the side! Spoiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clumpyedge Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 58 minutes ago, L3wisD said: Some folks on the facebook owners group say they sand down the sides of the prowin style units, but I think that's a step too far - just accept defeat and try a different unit at that point I'd say Surely sanding it down wont be consistent either side and could make it be lop sided and affect the line up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostly Retired Moderators L3wisD Posted June 11, 2019 Mostly Retired Moderators Share Posted June 11, 2019 Yeah, it doesn't make much sense to me either. Especially if I did it, it'd be well cock-eyed and wonky 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpe_95 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 On 07/06/2019 at 14:35, Jelliffe99 said: Posted this on another forum, forgetting this one was far better! Hi all,Stopped airsofting a few years back and have just decided to go to a few games this summer. I’m looking for the best affordable M4 on the market. When I was playing several years ago the go to was always the G&G combat machine. Has this stayed the same or is their a new winner in this category?Thanks While I went down the route of TM (probs not within your price range) my friend bought a Nurpol M4 (Delta Recon?). Anyway, his Nuprol is really good, hasnt put a foot wrong and is nearly as good as my TM range/accuracy wise. For the sum of £180-250 (depending on what type you get) I think its a really good RIF to have full stop. -Sharpe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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