Moderators Tackle Posted July 13, 2018 Moderators Share Posted July 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Duff said: Of course having to buy more to use from the site shop still sucks. My mate paid £8 for a bottle of 2000 from the shop if I recall correctly. Yeah that's what I mean, we don't always arrive on site with a load of cash in our pockets, fuel dosh & green fees/lunch money, gonna suck if you return to the safezone after your warm up game to find your ammo "confiscated", what if your unable to buy more ?, are they gonna make good in some way to enable you to continue playing, otherwise your screwed & possibly seriously out of pocket if you've gravelled a long way. Was a time when I had to stop taking extra cash to sites, on the grounds that if the site shop, or even other players had nice shiny kit for sale, I'd buy it........ think I had a problem lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDcase Posted July 13, 2018 Author Share Posted July 13, 2018 'Absolute' take credit cards so absolutely NO chance of stopping. Age and storage conditions will probably affect BB strength to add to the confusion... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasman Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 The BBs are returned at the end of the day, they just don't want to risk peoples eyes with shattering bbs. I am doing some serious research on BBs that are available today not just for shattering but also for quality. I have found horrible out of roundness in lots of the bbs available today also what looks like chipping and is probably injection mold clipping points. the quality BBs I have found are pure sperical objects of high polish with close FPS shot to shot and much better grouping. So far non of the bulk buy BBs are any good all being of average to poor quality,!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snuff Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 As gasman says Absolute do return them at the end of the day,the reason for confiscation is that airsofters(shock horror) don't listen.. I've been there when a young boy and his mum were using them and we were a few games in. If they are on the table after the warning someone would and could still use them,otherwise they'd be put away,,surely...😏. There is advice on their website regarding Nupo bb's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 Yup. All true. Just better off getting their staff to confiscate them, not bulshey regulars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters ImTriggerHappy Posted July 14, 2018 Supporters Share Posted July 14, 2018 2 hours ago, gasman said: The BBs are returned at the end of the day, they just don't want to risk peoples eyes with shattering bbs. I am doing some serious research on BBs that are available today not just for shattering but also for quality. I have found horrible out of roundness in lots of the bbs available today also what looks like chipping and is probably injection mold clipping points. the quality BBs I have found are pure sperical objects of high polish with close FPS shot to shot and much better grouping. So far non of the bulk buy BBs are any good all being of average to poor quality,!!!! Most of the well known brands are fine and as for Nuprol RZR they are one of the best so Absolute are being stupid. Sounds like a good way to sell bbs on game day. Wouldn't matter if they are returned the site has no right to confiscate. Absolute has a shitty reputation and things like this are why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterG Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 2 hours ago, gasman said: The BBs are returned at the end of the day, they just don't want to risk peoples eyes with shattering bbs. I am doing some serious research on BBs that are available today not just for shattering but also for quality. I have found horrible out of roundness in lots of the bbs available today also what looks like chipping and is probably injection mold clipping points. the quality BBs I have found are pure sperical objects of high polish with close FPS shot to shot and much better grouping. So far non of the bulk buy BBs are any good all being of average to poor quality,!!!! I'll hold off buying any more until you've completed your research, though i've got about 30,000 blasters to use up 😉 Cheers G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDcase Posted July 14, 2018 Author Share Posted July 14, 2018 26 minutes ago, MisterG said: ... I've got about 30,000 blasters to use up ... Krikey you have stocked-up... In case of armageddon...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasman Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 I have asked Les to gather as many different makes of BB as possible in small quantities from people to get as complete a picture of what is best to buy having just payed for 8 kilos of different make BBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 34 minutes ago, MisterG said: I'll hold off buying any more until you've completed your research, though i've got about 30,000 blasters to use up 😉 Cheers G Don't you find they're a bit crumbly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 5 minutes ago, gasman said: I have asked Les to gather as many different makes of BB as possible in small quantities from people to get as complete a picture of what is best to buy having just payed for 8 kilos of different make BBs. I've got a little baggy of goodies for him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasman Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 just don't shoot him in the nuts with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, gasman said: just don't shoot him in the nuts with them. I owe him one up the bum actually!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasman Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 didn't no you batted for the other team lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterG Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 38 minutes ago, Duff said: Don't you find they're a bit crumbly? Not really, but best ask the players on the other end of my rifle 😉 39 minutes ago, EDcase said: Krikey you have stocked-up... In case of armageddon...? When I bought them I was averaging 3-4k per skirmish and the discount was higher if I bought in bulk. About 6k .20s, 6k .30s and .36s, and a couple thousand of .28s, and 1000 .32s and .36s, the rest are are .25s. I wasn't counting the other brands before. Am also doing testing trying to find the right weight for each rifle. Happy to donate some to the testing cause. Cheers G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gtech Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 6mm are fine, the guy started it back in 2016 - nothing amazing but they're as solid as any other brand. Not sure why the RZR hate, I've used them for years without any issues. Right now I'll swap between blasters and RZRs depending what the site shop or retailer have available. Still not tried The Draft Club but having chat to the owner recently, it's definitely one I'm interested in testing - from our conversations he seemed extremely knowledgeable and could explain the differences between their BBs and the others on the market. Just now, Gtech said: 6mm are fine, the guy started it back in 2016 - nothing amazing but they're as solid as any other brand. Not sure why the RZR hate, I've used them for years without any issues. Right now I'll swap between blasters and RZRs depending what the site shop or retailer have available. Still not tried The Draft Club but having chat to the owner recently, it's definitely one I'm interested in testing - from our conversations he seemed extremely knowledgeable and could explain the differences between their BBs and the others on the market. Only time I had hassle with the Nuprol BBs was their diamonds/gold back a few years ago - just when Geoffs came to light since every manufacturer (including Nuprol) were suffering from swollen BBs when the compounds changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Druid799 Posted July 15, 2018 Supporters Share Posted July 15, 2018 4 hours ago, MisterG said: I'll hold off buying any more until you've completed your research, though i've got about 30,000 blasters to use up 😉 Cheers G I call your 30,000 and raise you 60,000 ! 😂 had the chance to pick them up at a ridiculous discount from a very nice chap who’s emigrating and had a garage full of Airsoft consumables that he used to sell through his fleabay shop to get rid of pronto ! 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshOnSnow Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 On 12/07/2018 at 19:34, Tackle said: I'm starting to think that absolutely everything that's Nuprol branded is a pile of shit........not heard a single good thing about their kit. I was flogged Nuprol VSR Mags once, they didn’t feed. same goes for their M4 midcaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasman Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 Thanks Mr G small samples of 10 or less is all that I require with the make, type ie bios, weight and how long you have had them since purchase. The more samples I look at the less impressed I am with Chinese manufacturers. The Chinese make some incredibly accurate stuff till they go into mass production and start using monkeys to operate their machines. The quality control seems none existent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterG Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 1 hour ago, gasman said: Thanks Mr G small samples of 10 or less is all that I require with the make, type ie bios, weight and how long you have had them since purchase. The more samples I look at the less impressed I am with Chinese manufacturers. The Chinese make some incredibly accurate stuff till they go into mass production and start using monkeys to operate their machines. The quality control seems none existent. This is what I have Non Bio .20 Absolute Airsoft 4 months old .20 ASG Blasters 3 weeks old .25 ASG Blasters 3 months old .30 ASG Blasters 3 weeks old .28 ASG Devils 1 month old .36 ASG Devils 2 weeks old Bios .32 GEOFFS™ SUPER NATURAL PRECISION™ 2 weeks old Age is from date of purchase, can't see a manufacture date on the bottles i checked. Cheers G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasman Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 ok I am at absolute this coming Sunday so will bring a few small envelopes if you are there. not interested in the absolute bbs as they are of poor standard and have tested them already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterG Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Sorry that should have said Ambush, not Absolute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDcase Posted July 17, 2018 Author Share Posted July 17, 2018 Will be a very interesting survey gasman. Looking forward to results tho I'm sure it'll mean spending more money for quality... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duff Posted July 18, 2018 Share Posted July 18, 2018 I gave @leggylicious some of my .28 Blaster Devils for you to test @gasman, ran out now as well so would be nice to know what I should get next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators djben9 Posted July 18, 2018 Moderators Share Posted July 18, 2018 On 12/07/2018 at 23:23, ImTriggerHappy said: Like to see them try and touch my stuff. While they have every right to ban usage they have no right to confiscate. While some batches of the original Nuprol bbs had issues the RZR are absolutely fine. Worst bbs for shattering are bio, excel and bulldogs. Bulldogs I tested actually splintered into some really small sharp shards. Not good if you are wearing mesh eyepro. Sounds like absolute are making judgements on assumptions not facts. Place does not sound well run at all. agree with ITH here, These are used at Urban as the on site BBs if needed, ive not had much issues with the .25s but the .20s would occasionally shatter when i was testing in the garden, difficult to see what happened in game though my brother uses them more than me, well using up, and he has said he has seen a few part ways!, also got a bag of ICS bbs, not sure where he got them, he is currently using them and not had any issues i know about im on .25 blasters.....few thousand (25000 i think) to get through! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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