Dredd Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Hey guys I am picking up a vfc Ashbury tomorrow and I have read online that you should use hard bb's with it because due to the feeding mechanism they can split, can anyone give me a link as to which ones to buy because I'm slightly confused because it says the heavier the bb's doesn't necessarily mean there harder. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted November 17, 2017 Supporters Share Posted November 17, 2017 41 minutes ago, Dredd said: I have read online that you should use hard bb's with it Shouldn't you be asking whomever made that assertion what they mean by hardness, and how it relates to brittleness? I'd be minded to think that a more elastic plastic would be less likely to split. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wo1f Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Geoff’s BB’s are good. Lots of people use them in GBBR’s because they seem to take the beating well. I use those or the little tubs of heavy ASG BB’s. They’re both nice and consistent with no air bubbles inside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemon191 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Are you sure they didn't mean heavy bbs ? As long as you buy decent quality you shouldn't have a issue with breakages. However some guns do feed/shoot better with a slightly heavier weight bb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc.RG1 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Geoffs or the draft club bbs are my go to, and both are extremely hard.. Some heavy weight bbs such as mad bull can use metal shavings and this does make the bbs soft.. Geoffs and the draft club bbs only use solid condensed plastic no matter what what, best bbs on the market in my opinion. ATB Marc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters ImTriggerHappy Posted November 19, 2017 Supporters Share Posted November 19, 2017 45 minutes ago, Marc.RG1 said: Some heavy weight bbs such as mad bull can use metal shavings and this does make the bbs soft.. Isn't this just another safezone myth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters jcheeseright Posted November 19, 2017 Supporters Share Posted November 19, 2017 41 minutes ago, ImTriggerHappy said: Isn't this just another safezone myth? 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc.RG1 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 4 hours ago, ImTriggerHappy said: Isn't this just another safezone myth? No mate as some are magnetic, I have tested them I might have a picture somewhere or maybe even some bbs left I'll check later.. ATB Marc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc.RG1 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Here you go guys, i could not find my old pictures so just took some new ones. Here are the madbull 0.43 magnetic bbs with the metal shavings.. ATB, Marc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc.RG1 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 5 hours ago, ImTriggerHappy said: Isn't this just another safezone myth? 5 hours ago, jcheeseright said: 100% see my last post guys.. ATB, Marc,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters ImTriggerHappy Posted November 19, 2017 Supporters Share Posted November 19, 2017 57 minutes ago, Marc.RG1 said: see my last post guys.. ATB, Marc,, Well bloody hell! Dont know how they got them passed as safe to use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc.RG1 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 8 minutes ago, ImTriggerHappy said: Well bloody hell! Dont know how they got them passed as safe to use. i must admit, when i did my shooting tests with them (only a few hundred shots) i did not have any break inside my gbb guns, had one or two break on impact, but i was soon put off my the metal shaving and how soft they are compared to geoffs and others, and they accuracy was not as good as geoffs either. I guess they needed to add the extra weight some how, but if geoffs manage to do 0.36g with just solid plastic im pretty sure madbull could do so with 0.43g too.. ATB, Marc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Samurai Posted November 20, 2017 Supporters Share Posted November 20, 2017 In the safe zone casually slip magnets into players' pouches to get homing BBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc.RG1 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 14 minutes ago, Samurai said: In the safe zone casually slip magnets into players' pouches to get homing BBs. That's it I'm going to stock up haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted November 28, 2017 Supporters Share Posted November 28, 2017 Well, damn. That's bang out of order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters jcheeseright Posted November 28, 2017 Supporters Share Posted November 28, 2017 I don't see why there's a problem with that, has anyone done a scientific test to prove that adding metal powder into the plastic mix makes them less resilient? Obviously it increases their density, but that doesn't necessarily translate into less hardness or shatter resistance. Sounds a lot like the old myth that 'bio BBs aren't safe because they can shatter into your eyepro'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin proffrink Posted November 28, 2017 Root Admin Share Posted November 28, 2017 I remember reading some time back that they were forced into using some hygroscopic plastics with the metal powder. Whether this was because or in spite of the metal powder I don't know, so that could all be nonsense. The reason I don't like some of the older metal-powder heavier stuff it because it's usually dyed like the Guarder ones, so it's impossible to see where you're shooting. I don't think any of us use BBs to their breaking point anyway. It's true that some GBBs benefit from a harder BB but typically only the nordic people have muzzle energy limited high enough to really test the difference between some of the top-tier BBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted November 28, 2017 Supporters Share Posted November 28, 2017 6 hours ago, jcheeseright said: I don't see why there's a problem with that How much metal are you personally prepared to accept in there before you don't consider it an airsoft BB any more? I'd the line to be drawn at zero, to avoid slipping down any slopes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin proffrink Posted November 28, 2017 Root Admin Share Posted November 28, 2017 It's the mass not the hardness that makes a BB hurt though. I'd have no problem with any amount of metal but plastic is far cheaper to make and polish, plus is typically harder so will scratch up barrels more readily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Moderator Jedi_Master Posted November 28, 2017 Head Moderator Share Posted November 28, 2017 14 minutes ago, proffrink said: I'd have no problem with any amount of metal but plastic What about 100% steel BB ? Airsoft Extreme or as I call it Air-X (plastic is for pussies ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters jcheeseright Posted November 28, 2017 Supporters Share Posted November 28, 2017 52 minutes ago, Rogerborg said: How much metal are you personally prepared to accept in there before you don't consider it an airsoft BB any more? I'd the line to be drawn at zero, to avoid slipping down any slopes. Basically every BB above .25g has something in it that's not plastic, there's no way to make them heavier without. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin proffrink Posted November 28, 2017 Root Admin Share Posted November 28, 2017 25 minutes ago, Jedi_Master said: What about 100% steel BB ? Airsoft Extreme or as I call it Air-X (plastic is for pussies ) I mean so long as it's within site limits for weight and muzzle energy then I'm not fussed. By all means fire some steel BBs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted November 29, 2017 Supporters Share Posted November 29, 2017 Don't we keep making the point that airsoft guns can't be converted to shoot steel projectiles? Fortunately SCA 2017 doesn't actually require that, just that they be designed to shoot plastic, but it's not a box we'd want to open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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