What gun-opinions

[airsoftwarrior147]

 

I am looking to buy a shorter style rifle

Options

1 aks74u don't know them make yet

2 mp5 preferably an sd model again unsure

3 Tm mp7

 

What do people reckon didn't want to make another thread sorry if this isn't allowed and delete if it's wrong by all means just looking for opinions

[Samurai]

Mp5 SD is quite long. 800mm is about 10mm longer than a G36C or a short m4.

Short AK is very good but it's not that fast to reload and to switch between semi and full auto (if that matters). You will need to add some rails to put red dot and taclight to it.

Mp7 is fine but it's an AEP. For short distances it's okay.

 

I would consider a G36C, Mp5K, AUG, Mp5, short M4 too in that order.

[jcheeseright]

TM MP7 GBB, no contest.

[airsoftwarrior147]

Samurai the mp7 would be GBB and the others are shorter still than my 417 350c so their an improvement the reloading and switching from semi to autos not that's important anyway

 

The guns are mainly for quick paced games where my weighty rifles to heavy and slows me down

 

Also where can I get a GBB Tm mp7 jcheese and how do you have to run them on propane or will green gas do

 

Basically pros and cons

[M_P]

Also where can I get a GBB Tm mp7 jcheese and how do you have to run them on propane or will green gas do

Green gas is propane

[Airsoft_Mr B]

Yeah Green Gas is propane + lubricant. Being a TM, they usually need low-powered gas AFAIK.

I haven't used one myself though so don't take my word for it.

 

Price of magazines really puts me off GBBRs!

[Suzuki Yamamoto]

If you decide to go with the TM MP7 GBB, there's one for sale on this forum.

[Russe11]

An MP5 is a great gun for CQB mainly due to the collapsible stock. I would not be put off by the extra length of the MP5SD, the silencer can be removed for tight areas if need be. The collapsible stock has the benefit that you can reduce the length of the stock and pull the gun right into your shoulder. A folding stock leaves you with no butt to put into your shoulder and an M4 style stock only shortens by about 50%. Try one for size and if its too big then an Mp5 or MP5K may suit better. An MP5 can easily be converted to have a torch front grip (cost me about £15 to do this on mine).

I wouldn't bother with an MP7 unless you want to go for the GBB version, but the GBB versions look a lot of fun

[airsoftwarrior147]

Would love it but don't have the £400 odd quid at the moment

[Lozart]

P90.

 

 

 

Yeah, that's right, I said it!

[Lozart]

I would not be put off by the extra length of the MP5SD, the silencer can be removed for tight areas if need be.

 

Really? I thought the whole point of the MP5SD was that it has an integral suppressor that isn't actually designed to come off?

 

 

A full length M4A1 is plenty short enough to do CQB with anyway. 800mm isn't a big deal.

[Russe11]

Yes but standard design has it fixed on by 2 lugs so its as easy to remove as a lightbulb. Some are screw on like normal suppressors but the 2 lug system is common.

 

Another idea would be one of these:

Ares Amoeba. Basically an M4 but with folding stock and battery compartment/raised top rail. Can't comment on performance but if I had to get an M4 for CQB this is what I would get.

 

If I could get any short gun for CQB then I would have to go for this though:

Actually I would wait for the shoot and scoot AEG M1 Carbine

 

But for a cheap MODERN CQB weapon with readily available parts, you can't go wrong with an MP5

[airsoftwarrior147]

Love the m1 and the amoeba is kinda ugly but beautiful but not really my things

 

Saying that I want an m1 carbine now Gas or aeg ow and don't know where I said it but wouldn't be for cqb as much as I haven't even played a game of cqb yet just for fast paced small games at woodland

[airsoftwarrior147]

And I'm going to jd airsoft to look at guns tommorow so I will look at the p90 aswell

 

Due to my small body and shortish arms it might be a winning call so thatnks

[Ian_Gere]

AKS-74U all the way. If you're looking for light, you don't want the ICS one - it's about the same as the real steel. The CYMA is probably not much lighter, but has the benefit of being on sale from gunfire.pl for £130

 

- for a light one you'd be best off with the D-Boys from taiwangun.com / get them to downgrade the spring to a Guarder SP100 and then use it until it breaks = after that just drop in a whole replacement CYMA gearbox for <£50 (although I wouldn't be surprised if it lasts a couple of years, you just can't tell with D-Boys stuff / some of it is made of dog hair matted with chewing gum, some of it is pre-formed popadoms, some is good). You can get plastic or aluminium RIS handguards for them, but you'd have to check exact compatibility (actually if u r interested say so b/c it's info i wouldn't mind having myself but i cba to go looking right now) - ehobbyasia.com have them iirc.

[airsoftwarrior147]

Looked at a p90 and mp7 both fit my arms and height greatly and I love them both no aks 74us so I couldn't try them

[Happy]

Did someone say MP5?

Ahem...

http://www.airsoft-forums.co.uk/index.php/topic/20586-lcs-mx5-a5-mp5-now-l80/#entry143855

 

(Shameless self promotion, I know).

 

Edit: Didnt know he was on about the GBB MP7.

[jcheeseright]

GBB MP7 is way above 250 fps, mine kicks out a solid 320 and is range/accuracy wise the best gun I own. Shoots further and more consistently than either my TM HK416 or M4A1.

[Happy]

GBB MP7 is way above 250 fps, mine kicks out a solid 320 and is range/accuracy wise the best gun I own. Shoots further and more consistently than either my TM HK416 or M4A1.

My bad I assumed he was on about the AEP variant, will edit my post.

[jcheeseright]

he may very well be on about the AEP variant, skirmishing a GBB as a primary is an acquired taste!

[airsoftwarrior147]

I'm on about the GBB after shooting the aep version today just lacked that kick you get with gas and think I'm set for the Tm mp7 but will have to wait a while as I have something's kinda airsoft related but I'll post them in Saturday if I get them

[airsoftwarrior147]

Also jcheese have you any pics of yours as I kinda need inspiration on how to run it I'm thinking peq-15 and eotech don't really need a flashlight quite yet as I haven't delved into the world of cqb yet

[jcheeseright]

er yeah gimme 5 mins and I'll get some snaps.

[jcheeseright]

 

As you can see, it's battered, had a lot of use!

 

The silencer is an FMA quick detach tracer unit that I can highly recommend if you're wanting to play CQB, since you can clip it on and off in a second when you need it.
http://www.ebairsoft.com/full-auto-tracer-silencer-tb631-p-6773.html Cheapest place I've found to buy it is ebairsoft, the flash hider that comes with it is for a KWA/KSC MP7 though and doesn't fit, but if you pack out the inside of the silencer with a bit of electrical tape it fits snugly over the stock marui flash hider.

Sight is a DYTAC aimpoint T1 replica, it's the only one I've had so far that hasn't died from the recoil, this one's about 6-7000 shots in and still going strong.

Torch is an element replica of a surefire m300 scoutlight on an offset mount, gets in the way of the folding grip a little bit but the on/off switch sits exactly where my thumb needs it to be.

Have a PEQ15 as well to go on the top, but it's only really for night games as during the day I've no use for an IR laser and illuminator!

[airsoftwarrior147]

Cool that's greatly so very low profile high speed low drag kinda work I'll have to look into getting some accessories I want a peq-15 for my 417 anyway so that I'll buy I'll have a look into t-1s as I've only ever run an eotech do am used to that and I might buy a light but later on