Sitting Duck

there is another thread about boosting or increasing your performance alas no special offers for viagra

I can take a hit but back - even with baggy clothes can sting Especially when your team don't notice you taking an extreme left flank then he must be enemy and fire - pop I'm crouched slowly moving in from side - if I get shot by enemy at least I'm drawing their attention any baggy clothes are stretched across my back - little flesh OUCH - WTF in the back - HIT - friendly ffs oh sorry m8 YELLOW FFS - check the band if you can - jeez dunno what hurts more - my back or being on the noob team again (wait - I'm a noob so fair do's it is my stinging back then) Back on topic - full face as he is kid, maybe helmet (bang your head hard and you wish you bought one) Think most of us are wearing another layer or two as it gets colder so reckon no need for juggernaut GLOVES - full finger ones to protect ya pinkies - that can hurt in colder weather too and a very generous of common sense for safety - eye protection ALWAYS ON (still see real noobs thinking they can remove these if in dead zone) If you invest in common sense then I'm sure he will be fine no point having some protection and ignoring basic safety rules etc....

jeez - can we take a vote on this and ask this thread to close we all have slightly different takes on this and none will bring kid back really thought this was done by now lets be a tiny bit thankful it was over there and not somebody we know/love (still a sad loss but think you know what I mean) understand if we can't close thread but it is almost going on as much as me when I get on a roll

uhm I had issues with LWA - bought n paid for one about 2.5 weeks before my ukara came through spoke to them and they said yup no problem fortnight later provided ukara details but they can't find it and was last one (fuming was an understatement) Eventually sourced one else - pro airsoft thanks to mack on here - was TT version ordered another from Zero One and just recently found out it the CM version Now I wouldn't put it past some retailers to suss this out early than us end users and maybe some were ensuring that batch of TT's were shall we say reserved This may sound a bit paranoid but reckon given chance some people will keep the really good ones back - might explain why my FH went walkies on LWA Alas - even G&G's site shows FH with standard pistol grip now maybe we got some US/Export models at first or G&G wanted great reviews on FH So I really reckon for around £140 we are unlikely to get a FH with TT box any more By all means try and ask what grip is on there - if any retailer has them in stock They are a very sexy little gun indeed - loud as f*ck - don't take it underground/tunnels/cqb coz after just half a day it will get on your nerves the loud mouthed baby Still a lovely gun even in CM spec - but as we have recently found out - just not quite as good as they once were still turns heads - and that is before you open fire - then you see loads of heads turn

first batch rel at Easter did later batches seem to have normal CM gearbox check pistol grip - if it has a G27 grip then most likely to have TT box normal grip seems to CM gearbox we recently found out

OK - I have not seen video nor do I wish to..... I have been following this a little closer as it is airsoft and have a son a little older I noticed just right before the ferguson riots started that a US news site said that the video had been viewed and showed kid reaching for his gun I can't remember the exact site as it was at work 3:00am on works pc Also nearly all my comments are NOT my own opinions or views but mostly what OTHER peoples comments that were left on both UK & US news sites may I add I don't know what colour the officer is nor do I care other people mentioned about tazer and the "middle class white kid" in comments Nobody needs to blame the parent/mum - I'm sure she is quite able to do that herself I too will not judge the kids family for as my own son leaves for school & cadets how would I know he is not taking in an airsoft pistol to "show off" to his mates (much like I did and perhaps some of us have done in past) Older ones out there - how many times we scorned drink drivers yet how many with 20 or 30yrs driving exp say the was always under the limit - far fetched maybe but we still could of killed ourselves & others like I say we have all done some dumb a$$ things I think if we are honest So I am not judging nobody, nor do I really want to blame colour or background ffs it is a very sad terrible and tragic thing to happen for kid, mum/dad, officer even and airsoft too I suppose We all have a little difference of opinion or views, but lets not judge anybody but try to ensure this stuff never happens to us or anybody we know & love I hope this will be my last on this terrible matter and hope to get back to my usual less serious rambling bollox fairly soon lets ensure we remain sensible and safe - even me

most of them are clones so yours could be almost any clone or clone of a clone so to speak - the site lists some minor things to check n narrow the clone down a bit or tell you straight if yours is a good or bad clone plus what is/isn't compatibile for parts

uhm have you tried this place: http://www.airsoftsniperparts.com/identifyyourrifle.htm if they can't help identify it or narrow it down a bit then you best call CSI

alas it doesn't always appear on database straight away

wow that gun blends in real nice indeed you are indeed one with your gun sir

I dunno where you brought it from but if local then it is worth a try yes it might seem a little dodgy perhaps and if it was £100 gun then ok I can write if off - the warranty I mean if I rounded screws etc off but these can be replaced with new screws..... fact of the matter is if it didn't play up then most people wouldn't be messing with it second skirmish and it goes pear shape - not a cheap gun - what is that a £300 gun yeah right ffs.... at very least if you opened it to ahem clean it you may say.... then if that place has ANY customer service they should fix the problem very cheaply if they don't then enlighten us a little and we will avoid them like ebola/plague You only find out just how good any retailer is - not just airsoft but anything we buy is when things go wrong or not according to plan - and yes aeg's are prone to going tits up coz they get hammered and in effect they are like little hammer drills going 10 to dozen BUT this was no JBBG pile of pooh either besides what have you got to lose at least by ringing them first A decent place would of imho treat a customer - a decent customer who spent £300 on aeg a little bit better than a JBBG £60 gun - well they better or that customer ain't gonna spend any more in their shop - it may be a real simple fix but us noobs gotta know our limits and you not ripped the guts out of it just yet

Delay plate goes on sector gear and keeps tappet plate back a little longer to help ensure a bb is loaded - the tappet plate/nozzle returns well before the piston fires but even on semi sometimes the gears can overrun when it stops and by then the tappet plate is starting to pull back - but this can look like it hasn't returned properly when in fact it is now starting its next cycle - nozzle is pulling back I'm no expert but a complete noob - if you haven't opened box and still has seal on it then try to return it - you paid good money and that toptech box and gun that cost a few bob should have not gone faulty so quickly and should of been ok once dried out if the shop gives you any crap - well if it didn't screw up so quickly then I wouldn't have tried to clean it don't mention anything about damp or rain - it shouldn't have caused this much hassle once dried out but don't let the retailer fob you off as you got it wet - so don't mention that crap you paid good money and it should have lasted a bit longer and all that - try the return or speak to them I am still learning but even I only mess with cheapo guns coz usually so far i end up making them worse - lol don't put up with it or pay out to quickly coz it should be lasting better even with a bit of rain (don't mention rain ffs - it just jammed n all that, seemed to clear itself but then dry fired now n then)

24 guests offs go n skirmish jeez Oh n onlybbguns say they do check ukara even on face to face purchase... They are not ukara themselves but have said they check With other site/retailers Well they better or if they don't they are never gonna be ukara And face a visit from law or trading standards Just wondering how many kids or guests from media Are conducting an enquiry as to how easy a RIF is UK ? Just more of the wrong kind of attention airsoft is getting ATM Cmon chaps its all there for a reason so stop trying to dodge it OK think I will shut up now n perhaps be less helpful to noons Even if you do say you are retired army & experienced n Mensa And more blah blah blah - read Ian's guide and accept it Go n skirmish n learn it all properly n safely Plus its a right laugh too n guys/girls are good sports etc.. OK shut up now. Oi who cheered oh you all did

Sounds a bit like what OnlyBBGuns "might" say TBH get a G&G Raider or Carbine at about £130 ish and can be 2-tone free at zero one Miles better AEG option or get a decent sniper and so what if it is 2 tone You said it is for back yard target so colour makes absolute no difference If you go for 2 tone and onlybbguns do quite a few in blue, then blue is not that bad Plus in light of what has happened recently black RIF are no doubt gonna get bad press And some places should be tightening up or ensuring the law is implemented much more than before Funny thing is many of us end up spraying our own camo or stuff like that or even go mad on pink guns for a laugh If you can avoid orange as it is a little too vivid to spot on skirmishes but back yard stuff Wtf does it matter especially if it works OK If it is 2tone then your neighbours might not call the SWAT so quickly too Far fetched - ask some 12 yr olds mum F@#K ME 17 guests looking at this post - jeez The law is to protect everybody - you n others around you Go to a skirmish site ffs, learn some safety n respect for sport And others around you. Please don't keep saying just for target must be in black - getting a little common line that one UKARA is there to help regulate it and is there for all of our sake This airsoft sport is no doubt gonna get some stick no doubt Go to site and if you enjoy then go for UKARA if you can You may pick up some common sense safety tips, learn a lot And enjoy it even more than you first thought. Besides shooting some targets in back yard means jack They don't move or shoot back or flank you with a simulated knife kill etc... So though you may think you are a good marksman at 25m Go to a site and see how it really is done in safety n legit Soz if any of this offends no real harm meant but getting a little concerned about how popular ways of getting RIF easily

jeez - not trying to turn this into any race row or anything like that..... I was just asking the black guy at work his take on this coz yes the 12 yr old was black (dunno if cop was white - nor do I care) and the way things get blown or taken out of context in media n others opinions etc.... no blame lies with really anybody else but the poor dumb a$$ kid I admit I took my FireHawk & CO2 pistol into work to in effect "show off" to a few people one has a firearms license and has brought in his hunting rifle in the past (also showing off) I had both items in their boxes and in black bin bags in my car but wasn't being ultra stupid with it - though we fired some shots inside a closed warehouse - but all same Despite all this on here and all what is going on Stateside - none of it will bring the kid/guy back But hopefully we will ALL learn from this - young or old and try be a little more responsible

I was just saying the cops could of considered other options but he made the best decision he thought at the time with limited info - the possible fake gun wasn't relayed to officers so he took it as real So if they fired as kid reached into his waistband of jeans then they wouldn't have seen an orange tip if still fitted They were not told it could be a possible fake gun but the dumb ass kid was pointing at people uhmm soz that is just asking for it but wait a sec - who never took out an old cowboy gun/water pistol that looked a little bit realistic and waved it in the air - alas the world has changed a bit and gun crime is common reality now Now at the risk of kicking over a massive hornets nest on top.... Daily Mail jumps on this as airsoft sport of terrorists/criminals Daily Mirror asks the question would police open fired if was a white 12yr old instead a black kid ??? WHOOOAAAAA - soz but I'm sure many lefty's may wonder that plus US are waiting to find out about a white cop shooting dead a black guy - and family telling all to stay calm & don't riot Soz but this is dumb tragic thing to happen and not the first time it has happened and won't be the last either Bad crap all round which ever way you look at it and all that EDIT just put the question to a black guy and without question said the would of shot if it was a white 12yr old. Them cops don't take no $hit or chances be said. It was an interesting discussion, yup kid f**ked up at least 3 times, taking gun out, waving it and not complying with armed officer The officer probably went home to his own 12yr old son and though it is unfair to judge rights/wrongs of parents teaching kids they can't watch them 101% of time and until my own kids grow up and see how they turn out - only then could I perhaps comment how other parents bring their kids up the officer's son or anyone of our kids or members on here could be in a similar situation Before anybody says no-way - did you not do really slightly dumb a$$ stuff when you was young ?? admit I doubt if I was gonna be that dumb to ignore armed police officer could of tazered the kid but a firearm info was given rather than possible fake firearm So due to possible risk to officer and public the possible fake info was not relayed - and rightly so Alas police arrive and they have video footage of kid reaching for a gun so officer fires - end of story officer did not sign up for this situation of killing a kid - he has to live with this and even though he acted on his best instinct it is nothing to be proud of on his record Kid's mum is gonna have a nice Thanks Giving as well - the whole thing is f**king tragic mess Plus as the guy at work was saying they in US have had kids of all backgrounds go on recent shooting spree in schools so he is quite sure the cop would of done the same on a middle class white kid And as the night continued we saw the developments over in Ferguson - which is another black vs cop more crap And lets not forget how the riots a while back started over here in UK too Basically - don't F**ck with guns real RIF or 2-tone anywhere outside or you may not live to regret yes I know Ferguson guy was unarmed before anybody starts to correct me but all kind of connected in a way being shot by armed police A terrible tragic shame and waste like I said - kid is to blame for his dumb a$$ mistakes but though a 12yr old knows right from wrong they may not fully understand his actions probably why criminal records are separate for kids/teenagers and adults etc.... but lets not forget that "could" of happened closer to home or even somebody we knew/loved trying to put a slight humour spin on this perhaps should of bought this 5-tone gun http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=22&products_id=42979 a nerf gun looks more lethal and this gundam would of perhaps been safer plus being SRC it would of been shagged after 3 or 4 skirmishes (sure it don't stand for Star Rainbow Co but $hitty Rifle Crap)

http://www.patrolbase.co.uk/airsoft/umarex-elite-force-racegun-co2-airsoft-pistol.htm#.VHNTB8kknIU valid defense/UKARA req if you purchased from patrol base - very clear & vivid end of the day it is down to retailer - it is them that could be in "firing line" so to speak personally a non blowback £27 co2 will do me with a touch of blue on it or nearly half that in black once ukara'd but in the light of recent stuff in the news and the way some dumb 12yr kid shot dead plus the way that numerous anon/guests browse these forums I will leave it there

It is a very tragic waste of a life the kid could of been thinking to reach for gun and drop the weapon first on floor (like he sees in movies/tv etc...) BUT - the officer had to make an immediate split second decision yes he could of shot shoulder or another area that may not have been so life threatening but then he hardly emptied a mag or finished with a final head shot after the 2 body shots So yeah with hindsight he could of done things a bit different and kid would still be alive but then the kid could of not taken it to the park too The kid probably screwed up when officers spoke to him - c'mon what teenager/kid follows instructions or does as they are told straight away - maybe he didn't hear or thought he should drop weapon on floor then put hands on head etc - who knows & we might never know for sure what kid was thinking Terrible tragic waste of a life - poor mum etc...... and just more airsoft bad press we could do without if it happened in this country I would like to think armed officers would be a little more cautious BUT then I ain't gonna be feckin stupid enough to tempt fate and take stuff out to the park either The gun looked very real at first glance - orange tip removed - open park area - pointing it at people Stupid kid - and that is what he is/was and just asking for trouble but still very sad for kid's family

I bought a B500A1 & Well D68 (M4 & G36 cheapo) at first and they could at a scrape work ok-ish and I do say ISH on cqb but never really for anything at woodland site but AK12 is longer (even though they probably used the D68/AK74 inner barrel in there) so may not be compact for cqb - but chock has given it a good boost with a proper G/box to give it back a bit of ooomph out in the field I gave in and bought one and probably never get around to putting in a g/box as it slowly dawned on me about bucking & maintaining it once I had her out the box - damn it Think most of us would like the traditional AK's to be a little more "mount" friendly like the AK12 but alas the AK mounting system is a bit limited and often needs a little mod or tweak to fit some rails on there if they are not specific to your own AK: side SVD quick detach or screw on TM type AK plus the RIS battery cover that seems to fit only on some cyma 39's there is also another one I found recently but seems overkill to me http://www.khmountain.com/airsoft/product_info.php?products_id=3268 on the DIY side of things - the best possible DIY mount seems to be this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hunting-Dovetail-to-Weaver-Adapter-Picatinny-Rail-Scope-Mount-100mm-Length-/331327022780?pt=UK_SportingGoods_Hunting_ShootingSports_ET&hash=item4d24a126bc note how it is curved underneath to help affix to top/battery cover though you still have some bumps or ridges to file down/remove or groove the rail underneath - quite likely the curve or contour may not be a perfect or complete 101% match but certainly better than most "flat" underside rails The main pain is it being a tad short 100mm, a 150mm would be better but suppose fit 2 x 100mm I guess At least if this DIY version was fitted then it wouldn't be such a pain to change battery for some compact AK's The side fitted mounts or 39 mount could be a pain if battery was in top cover The Tri-Mount on KH Mountain has the main rail raised maybe too much I think and the main iron sight on AK sits very very low, so moving back just the rear iron sight even on a slightly higher rail will very likely require the from sight being raised too perhaps Hence the AK12 has real advantages with its more modern out of the box rail look but there are some possible rail options for classic AK's and do hope Cyma might do a " 12 " based rear end AK coz I do like it. Plus the Airsoft AK's do hold up very well even if you hate them - they do hold their own if you give them a go OOoopps soz for going on - probably leave my AK12 as is for now as I said I dunno when I will get round to it (If I actually bother doing the g-box mod - but mega kudos to Chock)

http://grangeairsoft.com/tippmann-hpa-m4-carbine-pre-order/dp/1312 nearly half the price of a polar but still not exactly cheap when some paintball guns are much much cheaper than other tippmann stuff: http://www.store.justpaintball.co.uk/paintball-guns/tippmann/tippmann-bravo-one-tactical.html dunno if anybody has got hold of a tippmann m4 from grange just yet - but blow (excuse the pun) blow me it ain't an absolute bargain when compared to paintball stuff OK - CO2 option and new area they venturing into but still gonna wait n see if price drops to say £250 or there abouts..... Not knocking it - it is great and can see some paintballers crossing over to airsoft but think I will still wait or jam an airline & mac valve into to something (battery req) - let the old gears run without spring/piston tap an airline into cylinder head - run pipe to mac/solenoid out of back of old gearbox but tappet plate still used with gears to load bb's to hopup - little micro switch trigger solenoid ROF can be tweaked up or down by voltage - no major drain coz m120 spring gone so just spins gears plenty of small regulator valves can be fitted to adjust fps and later advanced versions can have a small pic chip or controller circuit to adjust the solenoid "on" time or burst of air volume firing out of cylinder head etc...... Well that is the basic concept in turning old crappy aeg into HPA and is probably quite do-able if you have time or build a mental Vortex mofo from bits of plastic pipe etc..... Can see HPA growing - but atm it is still expensive for what it is - but convert or a diy kit could mean we get hpa and can still use all our favourite models n tweaks n barrels n stuff rather than be tide to polarstar/tippmann stuff

no battery req either like polarstar - yes very very tempted good to see it ain't too silly rof - though 25 would of been better max rof Co2 is a nice touch/option if your tank runs out but reckon it ain't so quick & easy to change over back at safe zone in cold pi$$ing down rain but option is there all the same (dunno why fps would come out on Co2 mag - maybe GG/Butane option might appear maybe) yes been dreaming about one of them for a month now hovering over pre-order button @ Grange But if I do click on it then my wife will be wearing my balls as earings this chrimbo (I actually prefer them where they are and easier to pop into H Samuel on Christmas Eve) afraid I will keep dreaming maybe until spring/Birthday time - keep telling myself it isn't the traditional AEG Airsoft but still having trouble stopping the "buy me" screams (nothing compared to the screams I will make if mrs duck carries out her threat - no promise I think)

eh ???? fanx for the fanx but think this post was very useful and saw a nice gun anyway to each their own for looks and colours/customise etc.... (me personally the colour isn't as important as the actual reliability and accuracy but to each their own)

ABSOLUTELY NOT - this is still breaking the law/rules (yes it can be gifted but still puts the legit UKARA player in an awkward position) If retailer won't do it then why would any player risk it and get their ar$e chewed soz but forget that request - I have tried to help ya as much as i can but doubt if many will cross that line for you - so best not ask that crap I know any 18yr old can buy an osh i boom on JBBG coz I have done it the BFG on zero one may still need form filled out and they may or may not sell to overseas/non-ukara people but that is down to retailer - their choice think JD Airsoft sell a training grenade too but unsure about their rules/regs as well as not sure if they will ship overseas Some sellers will ship some won't (Evike in US will ship to UK but think Airsoft GI won't ship to UK) I would suggest contact Zero One or get your bro to get OshiBoom from JBBG but doubt if any on here will assist you in buying one I'm afraid

like has been said - 2 tone target pistol means jack it is only when you skirmish that the bright orange can give your position away quicker than RIF Like I said a little tiny bit of black paint could be " spilt " on it at a later date but no UKARA then no RIF, still 2-tone is fine and I got a 2-tone CO2/GG pistol that is fine as it is

"rapid" pistol could be quick with an AEP with lipo but pi$$ poor 200fps power Green Gas about 350-ish or CO2 will go to about 450-ish Some of the ASG / KWA CZ range will take both CO2 & GG mags - aprox 22 bb's and has some kick ar$e blowback and fire quicker on CO2 too if not UKARA'd then 2-tone blue slide will be ok and could have a splash of black "spilt" on it