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not in that size/cut they're not... actually getting really expensive now!

Tier1 went invite only because a lot of the players they had turning up wanted an airsoft game, and what tier1 do is milsim with airsoft as the stand-in for real guns... They don't want to run a weekend long skirmish with a dress code, they want to do the stuff that doesn't appeal to most. Unfortunately because 'milsim' is such a catch-all term they had people turning up expecting it to be just a weekend long version of a gunman or ambush adventures game and generally ruining it for those who'd turned up for the more hardcore experience; where people take note of ROE etc. It's a sliding scale I guess, there needs to be some kind of 'milsim-scale' devised like the bristol stool chart; 1 is no arm bands, no 2-tones... tan vs green with flags, all the way up to 7 which is period correct loadouts, stag rotations, correct military RT, scheme of manoeuvre, NATO sequence of orders etc. If everyone could agree to label their events accordingly, people would know what they were getting right from the off

That is an absolute bargain, care to share where they came from? If still in stock of course.

Horses for courses, the only elitism I have ever encountered in airsoft is of the reverse kind; people saying things like "night vision, more money than sense, hahahaha" who then go on to get into their £40K BMWs to drive home. So much so that at my first ever weekend milsim game I was taken on by one of the better known UK teams and played with them all weekend as an equal, my kit wasn't as good as theirs, I didn't have a £2,000 PTW, I didn't have gen3 night vision, I only just had a working radio setup... didn't matter. Nor would it matter if someone else was to turn up, it's all about attitude, if you're willing to get stuck in and play milsim rather than airsoft skirmish then there's no issue. The only people I ever hear talking about elitism in the UK milsim scene are those who have never tried to get involved.

the law is just a lying contest

Because in an army which has just been down-sized to 90,000 people everyone knows everyone. As an example, one of the regular players at Stirling was SAS, several others are serving and ex Royal Marines. Combat Airsoft Group is run by an ex member of 4/73 special operations battery royal artillery, 100% not admin staff. Tier1 is run by an ex Royal Marine, you don't get 'admin staff' Royals, they're all commandos. You're trying to argue against my first hand experience from a position of 'one of my mates said....'. Edited for clarity.

no, but that's the dictionary definiton of lethality not the legal one Lethal is defined as likely to cause serious bodily injury or death. While a 1J airsoft gun in of itself is unlikely to do that, fire one point blank at someone's eyeball and you can guarantee serious bodily injury will occur, as usual the law is catering for the lowest common denominator.

I'm sure they have some kind of mechanism in place to get new custom... I have no idea what it is though, recommendations from current players perhaps?

That's not what I said or what I implied, you may be hard as coffin nails... I have no idea. What I said was that the vast majority of people turning up to tier1 games weren't able to keep up with their intended market.

1J guns are capable of causing serious injury on those not wearing appropriate protective equipment.

Actually no, that rule happened while I was deployed on actual military operations in somalia and I didn't get the email.

To be fair, I agree with them, they weren't running airsoft events, they were running Milsim events using airsoft as the tool to make the guns 'work'. What tier1 wanted to achieve was a 36-48 hour snapshot of what real military operations are like; very little sleep, short notice tasking, coming off a patrol straight onto stag or straight into another patrol - having that patrol end as uneventfully as the last without a single shot fired because the ROE you're working under doesn't allow you to shoot the guy you know is reporting your position to his mates. 80% of the people they had turn up wanted an airsoft game and couldn't deal with it, they bitched about lack of sleep, chinned off jobs entirely because they were having a BBQ, OPfor players who turned up in plate carriers carrying tricked out M4's who just wanted to make contact with the blue force players ALL THE TIME. All that resulted in was that the people who'd turned up for the full-on-milsim experience that they'd been sold didn't get it, they got an airsoft skirmish with some expensive pyro and cool kit. Been to a lot of serious milsims then? Walts don't survive, most of the main organisers are ex forces themselves, a lot of the attendees are serving or ex forces, someone turns up claiming to be something they're not and they get found out ASAP and kindly asked to sort their lives out. Try hards (as in people who actually try hard) are exactly what milsim games need, people willing to get up at 0130 after 30 minutes sleep because there's a raid happening and they need a unit to secure a nearby building so the breaching/raiding team can have a clear exit route.... that's what milsim is, trying hard, because that's what MIL is, working hard. As for nobs, I encounter far more aggro, cheating and general cockishness at your average sunday skirmish than I ever have at a milsim weekeder. Granted, there are bell ends that attend the more serious milsims, but they're extremely easy to avoid just through the nature of the game; blue and red forces do not speak to each other and if you want to avoid a person on the same side as you, just request at the start of the event that you be put in a different unit to him and chances are you won't have to share so much as a single word for the entire weekend. 99% of the time your 'milsim wanker' (we all know them) who turns up to a sunday skirmish is the kind of person that tier1 went invite-only to avoid, the fat man who sits at the back shouting 'push up', but who has attended a themed skirmish at ambush adventures and thinks he's a cut above everyone else there because of it. Don't let that chode colour your perception of what milsim is, because he isn't it.

exclusive and full of bellends... hmm. anyone can pay the fee and turn up, seems like okto has at least one bellend themselves!

Every Milsim provider is different, some places like Airborne Airsoft just require you to meet the dress code... others like Stirling / Tier1 / Combat Airsoft Group etc may require you to live out of a rucksack in the countryside for up to 72 hours. Pick a game you want to go to, read the rules, make sure you fit all the criteria (age and health are the 2 main ones) and then make sure you can meet the dress code/kit requirements, that's all there is to it. If you can't meet the requirements, don't go, it won't be any fun!

what he said, while KoA's work is undoubtedly very good, working on the recoil gearbox is exceptionally easy when you have the correct tools. I'm no master tech and I've now installed 6 spectres without any problems at all.

No way, buckshot is serious business! Ignore the rednecks, buckshot vs. frying pan:

Sam Ligatt at Kingdom of Airsoft is well respected with regards working on recoil guns, as are TheCage Airsoft. Either one will do you a fit for a reasonable fee, or if you have the tools it's a pretty straightforward job to do yourself.

What a ridiculous product, 'no need to have 2 setups for woodland and CQB'.... THEY'RE THE SAME LENGTH!!!!

SRC make nice repro versions of Peli cases... 1720 I think.

I'd be extraordinarily surprised if that fitted correctly on even 25% of airsoft buffer tubes.

Yes, providing you're using a standard 2-piece RIS that's held in place by the delta ring and end-cap you can replace the standard A-sight with that VLTOR gas block and it should work. I'll caveat that though by saying that there's no 'standard' when it comes to airsoft, if your gun has a front sight assembly that's off spec, or barrel pin grooves that are off spec then it may not work at all. Only way to find out is to try.

I'll second what CKinnerley says above, osprey is junk unless you're being shot at with real bullets, I'd honestly rather wear ECBA.

If we get back on topic... The title of this thread clearly states electric Airsoft gun, not HPA. I stick with my previous comment that 12ft/lbs is not achievable within the limits of an electric gun.

You made a poor decision. It completely changes the gun, with pre-cocking enabled trigger response is near instant (the piston is already to the rear, so the gears only need to turn a little bit to let it go). Rate of fire does increase but you can't really push a recoil past about 20rps anyway, the return speed of the recoil weight will eventually cause issues beyond that and strip your piston. The spectre mosfet (if you can get one) is without doubt the biggest upgrade possible for a recoil gun, I have them in both of mine. Buy direct from BTC though, loads cheaper.

That list there... good list. I'd skip the bushings and shims though, loads of effort for not a huge amount of return. I'd also move the BTC Spectre to the top of the list, if I were to buy another recoil my number one priority would be to get a spectre in there ASAP. They are a bit like rocking horse poo at the moment though, so I'd just wait.