Cr0-Magnon

Perhaps my favourite GBBP is my TM FN-57. However I was just reminded that they used to make a foliage green (lower) version. Similarly Guarder discontinued their OD green Glock 17 Gen.3 lowers and didn't even bother to release it in that colour for the Gen.4 Considering the number of woodland players in this hobby, it baffles me how infrequently green isn't an option when black and tan, grey and even pink are! Take the CZ Scorpion Evo, they went to the effort of coming out with limited edition FDE and Grey....but yeah, you get it....no green! All of these mentioned are available in OD/Ranger/Foliage in the real steel world, so why not airsoft RIF's?

As others have mentioned, GBBP shots are so inconsistent (due to depletion of gas and cooldown), that the reality is you're just "upgrading" for the sake of tinkering. By all means put a maple leaf barrel in it and swap out the rubber. You could also change the hop arm and use an I-Key (or is it H? 🤔), that way you can confidently lift heavier ammo. Just don't ever expect "tight groupings" in airsoft.

The biggest difference is on the Gen.4, is there's an actual pin which goes through the trigger spring, so you have to knock this through (on the Gen.3 it's a fake one). As a tip for this, the slide release spring rests in a notch on this pin, so it's best if you lever this spring out of the notch while pushing the pin through (took me bloody ages to figure that one out!). This pin also makes reassembly more fiddly. The way I do it is to put the pin through the trigger spring first, then when everything else is back together, I take a tiny Allen key and use it to lever the trigger spring over the trigger bar (you can pull on the trigger to bring it closer while you do this). Hopefully that makes sense.

I'm a little confused by your question. You start by asking about compatibility between 3 and 4, then go on to mention 4 internals in a 4 frame.

@alxndrhll - Seems people are more specifically referring to YouTube clickbaiters than social media as a whole. We know at least 50% (probably quite a bit more) of their audience don't play. From that I would assume a chunk will take part at some point. I'm not quite a "dinosaur" yet (seem to recall I'm within five years of you), but I did grow up without social media. We've seen from Prime "sports" drink selling for £30+ a bottle, how easily influenced a lot of young teenagers (the same age they can start playing) are. I won't believe you, if you tell me a significant percentage of those don't go in with preconceived notions or skewed attitudes, based on what they've seen online. Edit: I will add that I've played at the same site as several YouTubers, including Kicking Mustang. Ironically there was zero drama in real life. He kept himself to himself/seemed quite humble and no-one got their eyes shot out with an air rifle etc. Although I did chuckle when I heard him say something along the lines of, he doesn't know why people find his videos so controversial.

I initially decided against installing it, as it seemed very tight and bad things happen when I take a file to a gun. However I ended up going back to it and realising it didn't need any modification (I just needed to braver). I wanted the green lower as have several black or tan guns. Just an aesthetic thing, innit.

I can't remember the last time I attended a skirmish and it took longer than ten minutes to hear "Those cheaters aren't calling their hits!" When did that become so prevalent?

I think mostly you hit the nail on the head with the last line. It's obviously a matter of opinion and yes age/experience, predominantly sway that. I bought my first Airsoft gun in 2016, age-wise I could have started playing around fifteen years earlier. When I started looking at other RIF's, it was right when Glock had kicked-off about using their trademarks and anything bearing it, dried up pretty quickly. Leaving me feeling like I'd missed out! Also I don't remember looking at any Western Arms models and it seemed like the last of the G&P aegs were rapidly going out of stock. Having spoken with people who were playing several years+ before I started, it does seem like it was smaller groups meeting up to play and everyone's gun was about the same level. Basically just having a laugh. It seems a bit like cars, the classics are way cooler but realistically can't compete with modern, high-end stuff. So I'm a relative Newbie but I have been feeling more and more players emphasis is on "DESTROYING the enemy with this OVERPOWERED BEAST!!!!" rather than tactics....and yes I do blame YouTubers for that attitude.

Update (if anyone cares, haha): I've short-stroked it to the very limit of still locking back on empty, using a Waldo kit (incl' recoil & nozzle spring). I also added this TTI CNC silencer adapter kit. I know the original outer barrel has threads but this gives you higher sights and obviously allows it to be a bit more compact (when using a tracer etc). I'm just charging my short tracer, to see if the inner barrel isn't too long and thus doesn't activate it. If it is, I've got a shorter one I can use....but then yeah, I've essentially got a very well setup CQB gun. The cherry on top would possibly be a rail but that's easy enough to sort. The only issue is, I've never played CQB and don't intend to....

Welcome to the forum! I'm just outside SE London and have a car, so not in the same boat as I can easily head into Kent or West Sussex. There are several good sites out there. If you can get yourself to Chislehurst, I reckon you'll have a decent time. It's been a while since I was at Red1 but my experience was it's a decent crowd and definitely more mid-range than long. The site describes itself as "Woodland CQB" because it's a fairly small patch, next to a children's football field. Also within the M25 you've got TWA Croydon - it's a bit rough around the edges and very much geared towards the rental crowd, but I quite like the actual grounds and there's a good open area to get your hop set etc.

I sold mine fairly quickly for £115 incl' delivery & Paypal fees (with a mag). As @BigStew says, not having a mag may affect the value more than you think. Bearing in mind, picking up a mag could cost the buyer around £35 delivered to buy separately.

As someone who's done it on this exact make and model, by disassembling and lightly rubbing with brake fluid, I can confirm that it's definitely possible. Of course, I would also argue that the whole process takes something away from that "box fresh" appeal.

Yeah, that bit I understand....however "several" individual trigger pulls?

VFC BCM, comes with an ETU. Seems to refer to pre-cocking as "pre-pull" However the way to disengage it, is somewhat confusing. Surely it's not a case of letting off several bursts in full-auto!? I understand holding the trigger for a moment (like on my Perun'ed G&G DMR) or a single quick burst of full-auto (like on my SSR4).

The battery Novritsch recommends for this (and even the 1.5J version) is 11.1v 30C. According to Titans website: C Rating: 16C (equivalent of a 1600mAh 30C)

Yep and discontinued the VFC one, haha.

SSR4 receiver is the same used by Lancer Tactical, Specna, Evolution etc.. It's the SSR15 which was made by VFC.

As an update: I'm now convinced it's a case of overheating rather than lock-up. I tried the gun again on Sunday, in a much slower pace game (ie fewer direct "targets"). However the same thing started happening before I'd even gotten through 150 rounds. I contacted Novritsch customer support and after a few days they replied that it's likely one of two things: 1) ETU was damaged by me incorrectly inserting the body pin that kept falling out (I highly doubt this, feel like it's a cop-out, besides should I have to sort something like that out of the box?) 2) Motor is not set at the correct height. I've never messed with motor height before, as assumed they'd be put together at the best setting. I did however follow their instructions and by tightening it one turn, the gun was noticeably "cleaner" sounding (more thwack, thwack than whirring/slight whine). So I'm left hoping that's sorted it...or failing that, they give Luke @ Negative Airsoft the thumbs up to work on it under warranty.

420fps on 0.12g's 349fps on 0.20g's 290fps on 0.28g's ....mystery solved? Haha, I know, probably not....but wouldn't that be funny?

Technically you don't need to replace any internals. Mine worked perfectly without stronger springs etc but the blowback motion was very soft. It feels much beefier with the Guarder recoil and hammer spring. I wouldn't worry about the nozzle until it breaks.

So most of the AEG's we get new from retailers, are as they came from the factory but are there any UK retailers who (for extra £) offer a service where their tech opens the gearbox, checks the grease and shimming etc?

@Skara - Are you actually using it in skirmishes now? @Impulse - At this point I'm just looking at it as something to tweak here and there. There's obviously a massive range of external and internal upgrades and being kinda Glock based, I find them easier to work on than Hi-capas. The stock hop adjustment cog on mine was so stiff, I gave myself this weird blood blister thing, by pushing on it. So obviously I HAD TO buy the CNC chamber 😬 I tried flat hopping it at first but it was nothing, nothing, nothing...to the sky! So now I'm just running the nub which came with it and a 50 degree flamingo, still the stock barrel though...seems alright?

TBH, I only check this thread to read the next chapter in AS vs HPA. Maybe we can change the title? I was at Driver Wood in Crawley yesterday. It's definitely had the most invested in it out of any site I've been to and the Marshals do their job well (step 1 - paying attention, step 2 - communicating). It's got some cool "props" too (a helicopter, boat, black cab, double-decker bus and military trucks) but the two times I've been, something's lacking for me. You've got an L shaped open section which most of the aforementioned props are positioned in. On paper these make for excellent cover to push up from point to point. However the general lack of enthusiasm amongst the players, lead to everyone bunching up at the back and wasting countless BB's, mostly keeping the oppositions heads down/preventing advancement. The woodland section adjacent is quite dense too, making sneaking around difficult. A few times I tried, it was met with several "brrrpps" (HPA!) and a couple hundred BB's rained down. The afternoon provided some highlights, as I was able to successfully carryout a few cool "tactical" moments teaming up with a mate. For example when we went either side of a riot shield player and he didn't know which side to defend. I'm not going to be in a hurry to go back, but at the same time I don't really feel like that's the sites fault.....a weird one. Not having a moan but as a note, it's the first time I've felt in the minority as an AEG user. Definitely seeing a rise in HPA players.