Rogerborg

Heck, no, I'm always laughing at how much people pay for reel steal optics to put on toys that sling tiny bits of plastic with less consistency than the cheapest AliExpress red dot can provide. Well, two kinds of people would say that. People who aren't shilling for Vorsk, and people who are shilling for Vorsk. I don't think you are, but I do agree with the sentiment that you've already decided to buy it and are looking for validation. It's very common. So I hereby validate, bless and anoint thee, do as thou wilt. Just please do let us know how it turns out either way, since - as you correctly say - first hand experience is invaluable. Or if you're determined to buy it just to see how bad it can be, well, I do that all the time, so double blessings on that.

Ahoy and welcome. You may need to interact a bit more before you get access, but we do indeed have classifieds sections here: For looking: https://airsoft-forums.uk/classifieds/category/4-electric-rifles/ For asking: https://airsoft-forums.uk/classifieds/category/17-guns-wanted/ It's worth asking around at your local site(s) as well, as then you'll get to try them out before buying. Just don't get over excited and bite someone's hand off based on what they say they paid for it, check against retail prices (and availability) first. Do you have anything specific in mind, and what would you want it to do differently to the Cybergun that you (presumably) already have?

Well, they're bio, so at least you can eat them.

It's the same price as a basic non-tacticool TM Hi-Capa, and £25 more than an Army Armament R501. I'd actually encourage you to go ahead and get one, because your error will be our data point.

Do we know if there's case law on that? A quick search on BAILII didn't turn up anything, although annoyingly it "helpfully" returns result for "inclusive" when you ask for "inclusion". All of the relevant cases seem to be about blank firers that have been deliberately modified, I can't see anything about one that incidentally vents some gas forwards - although it's entirely possible that no such case has ever reached a court of record. I'm not doubting that's the interpretation being applied by police and prosecution services, I hasten to add, just wondering if it's ever been robustly defended and tested.

Unlikely if they're a sub-brand of Nuprol.

Do we know the OEM / branding chain with "Vorsk"? I'm wondering if they come from the same toy factory as "Raven" single-use guns.

On a strict reading, it looks like can vent gases to the front, as long as the barrel is fully blocked. If the barrel isn't blocked, it has to vent upwards. Or, curiously, be a revolver, which appears to be just fine to Alec Baldwin someone with. https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2011/1754/regulation/3/made Specifications for imitation firearms 3.—(1) Blank-firing imitation firearms, other than those described in paragraph (2), shall conform to the specifications set out in regulation 4. (2) The blank-firing imitation firearms described in this paragraph are— (a) imitation revolvers; and (b) imitation firearms where the blank cartridges are loaded vertically at 90 degrees to the dummy barrel and which fire, and vent the gases produced on discharge, in the same direction. https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2011/1754/regulation/4/made Specifications for imitation firearms 4. The specifications referred to in regulation 3(1) are that— (a) an imitation firearm must incorporate an inclusion; (b) the inclusion must be wholly made of a material which is at least as resistant to being cut, drilled, bored, ground (or any similar process) as sintered tungsten carbide in the range 1550-2000 HV 30(1); (c) the inclusion must wholly block the barrel and should be permanent and incapable of being knocked out without destroying the chamber or barrel; (d) part of the inclusion must be incorporated into the rear of the dummy barrel; and (e) the inclusion must be intended to prevent— (i) the creation of a hole through the dummy barrel along its axis; and (ii) the removal of a dummy barrel, unless the frame and chamber area of the firearm is rendered useless as a result or its integrity so compromised that it cannot be used to form the basis of a firearm without significant repair or addition. None of which is really relevant to the "Section 5" seizures of those spicy bois, or to airsoft. If I were a betting borg, I'd lay a small amount on an accumulator that they were: found by the bedside; loaded with rubber balls; and something about "legal home defence" was mumbled. Disavow, disavow.

I saw a post in Failbook a couple of months back from someone claiming to be a Parcel Farce employee saying that they were going to start cracking down on anything vaguely gun shaped, up to and including refusing to carry "low powered air weapons", i.e. airsoft, within the UK. They didn't mention blank firers or other replicas as far as I can recall. Caveated with it being pure anecdote, unverified, and it doesn't match their published T&Cs. But it is possible that they're now accepting things at the counter which are then triggering alarms when they're in the network.

I had a quick word with him and he said "Speak to a real live solicitor, now". Well, maybe tomorrow. @Tommikkahas covered everything I know and more: and paintballers are likely to be more helpful here. Personally, I can't see how they'd be Section 5s rather than air guns (which as m'lurned colleague has said need a licence in Scotland). Either way, this has got nothing to do with airsoft, and the 2.5J limit. But we've seen examples of Plod mis-charging when they see something vaguely assault-toy related, including changing the charges later when they realise that they've screwed up. Because of course, they were never wrong to swoop and seize, they just need to figure out what you're guilty of. Wild guess, but did they happen to find some rubber balls with the T4Es?

Don't tell me to calm down or I'll Agrajag you right in your petunias.

Mostly harmless? 🤔

Good question. I swear I have seen them, but [handwaving intensifies] I can't recall offhand which site(s) do this. Does anyone have a better memory?

You'll also want to check if your local sites have pedantic[*] requirements for DMRs, i.e. a toy pretending to 7.62mm be rather than a toy pretending to be 5.56mm. [*] And incorrect.

True, but Silverback's USP is marketing things that don't need to be uPgRaDeD or fixed. Do you know if the one you tried had the gears modified? It's quite possible that they've already sorted it, they do have form.

Yup, the section you want is: https://airsoft-forums.uk/classifieds/category/17-guns-wanted/ There's a spam filter in place so you'll likely need to have a bit of a chat first before getting access to it.

Volts, yes. Some setups will be driven too hard with 11.1V - I tend to get double-shooting on semi without an active brake mosfet (other experiences are available). Capacity and amps, no, go for it. The battery will only supply what the motor is trying to draw. If it can't supply that much, then it'll heat up sharpish, and you really don't want that.

Could be. 1.3Ah x 25C = 32.5A. That's 360W at 11.1V, or 240W at 7.4V. I mean, motors do get toasty from waste heat, but I'd hope that at least 10% of that 360W (= 360 J/s) is making it out of the muzzle. Worth a try though, more Ah and C is always better Ah and C. I'm running 1.4Ah x 30C as fast as my mags can keep up. You just made up that wordle.

The law in this area is an ass, three types of mule, and eleventeen varietals of pony-and-trap. We really need a comprehensive consolidation and consistency-check of all firearms and firearms related legislation, although that's very unlikely to play out in our favour.

Genuinely well done, I get a sweaty cleft from just walking 26 yards let alone running 26 miles. 👍

Yup, virtue signalling that they hate guns so much that they don't want anything to do with them, beyond making a living from glorifying their use.

And don't let naysayers say nay. We're just playing dress up and hide-and-seek with expensive spud-guns. Sure, the organisation will almost certainly be the usual comically contradictory clusterfrag, but just go out and play the way that you want to play and you'll have a blast.

Top tip: remember to take some acetone nail varnish remover to unstick yourself from the "not" XR hippies.

So, like ten quid, mister? This is a solid example of how if you're the only person who actually makes something, you can name you own price. It's not one I'd pay, but I suspect someone will - although I agree that this probably isn't the forum to find that person.