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Changed it should of realised that myself😕Dont think it matters whether hes been mentioned before and its not just about who it is. Just think unless its someone who is being named and shamed for bad behaviour personal names should be left out of any posts. I know I wouldnt appreciate anybody putting my name on an internet forum without my permission. Honestly dont think the person in question would be offended but none of us know him well enough to know for definite.

Yeah it is. He works at a site but its not like hes exactly a public figure.

Can I just point out mentioning people by name on a public forum seems a bit wrong mate.

Them do do weekly games. Them do them on a Sunday. If you want to go to a game that them do try to book at least a week before as the the games them do can often fully book. You will enjoy it them do some good games. ☺

Nothing wrong with the wobbly chairs, dump all your gear one side and sit the other no problems. I always set up on them now as had enough of the listening to the I am special crowd who regularly congregate round the tables. They could do with more space to lay your gear out sometimes though but doubt they want to fork out too much on a derelict building under threat of closure. Having the head marshall out probably would cause issues. They used to have two but one left in the middle of last year which was a shame as he was a good lad. Not very often there is an issue there to be fair they are usually pretty well organised.

Jesus would use a cross-bow or maybe a nail gun.

Only time I have seen people go back after briefing is when have turned up late or left it until 9.30 to try and chrono, so thats their own fault for being stupid. Was running late once and phoned up to say wouldn't be there until just after 9.30 and the marshall waited at the chrono for me so cant praise them enough for being helpful.

Everytime for the last two and a half years? Never queued more than a few minutes in probably over 40 Sunday games there. Guys on the chrono are usually pretty efficient at moving people through. As long as get down to the chrono area for 9.20 no issues as chrono normally closes about 9.30 for the briefing.

Never known the queue to be that bad and I have always got there about 9ish.

Actually its a great idea. Its a lot of fun and I have never seen anyone get seriously hurt. Obviously you cant just have a free for all but as long as the people involved are all sensible it can be quite a good thing for camerardirie among players.

Its not so much the below knee height which is an issue as thats not a big problem with timed grenades. Its the same level usage thats the issue, the mall has lots of stairways and being able to throw pyro up and down them is important sometimes. Especially the main one when going up to the balcony to punish all the campers up there, getting on to there is almost impossible without pyro sometimes.

Cardboard pyro is better at the mall because you can chuck them anywhere you like. Bfgs have a lot of restrictions there.

Everybody still complains about the heavy nuprols but up to 0.28 is ok and their tracers are probably the best out there now. Wouldnt recommend them at all for tightbores though, most decent bbs are actually about 5.95mm but nuprols are bang on 6mm so any issues in the barrel or hop and they jam.

And the prize for worst comment ever goes to......

Might have just walked in a bad day but I am not very forgiving.To be honest best service I have ever had from a uk store was patrolbase.

Had a similar thing at socom tactical. Went there about 18 months ago to get a back up gun for friends to use and a new tac light. Asked to try out a gun to see how it shot lad behind the counter just shrugged and said cant do as on his own in the shop and carried on chatting to the other lad in the shop he obviously knew. Didnt offer to lock up for a few minutes or anything. So I thought whatever went to look at lights and they had the element foregrip light combo but was way above the price of any where else. I asked if they could do anything about the price got a curt no while he rolled his eyes at the lad he was talking to. Walked out and will never go back which is a shame as normally I try and support local businesses.

Not if you want to go John Woo style.

Agreed if you really wanted to sue then maybe you could but when I first played I was shown around and all the known problem areas were barriered off. Everybody has signed off that they are familiar with the restrictions of the site and the no go areas. Its the same as doing a job that has an element of risk all the restrictions and precautions in the world dont entirely prevent accidents but the jobs still allowed to be done and the person doing it does it knowing the risks. There is a certain element of gentlemans handshake involved as well obviously with any venture like this. At the end of the day its a group of people meeting up and having a laugh not an organised event. If you put a football match on then you need medics and officials and all the health and safety but you dont need that when you go for a kick around in the park. There are still lots of ways round a lot of health and safety things at the moment but it does get harder all the time so I am sure that at some point it will be impossible to do this sort of thing but at the moment loopholes obviously still exist.

I know what a risk assessment is and anything in the play area is made safe. The sort of things that you agree to are that if you cross a barrier into an area that is not deemed safe then you are at putting yourself in harms way and that none of the electricals are used that sort of crap. We dont play anywhere that is deemed unsafe. As I said I am not 100% percent on all the legalities as I didnt organise it. What I do know is that it is possible to be done. If someone did get injured and try and sue then maybe they could nothing is bulletproof, but you would still have to prove it was the site owners fault after you signed a waiver removing them from responsibility. As I said earlier as well it did affect the building insurance in case of damage and that had to be covered, not sure who forked out for it though.

Then you need some professional advice and deep pockets to start. The shear amount of health and safety crap you would to deal with would be huge.

There are some grey areas to it that I dont fully know about. The people I play with have been doing this for a while. I got involved just by being in the right place at the the right time. The guy who organised it initially works for a property management firm and hes always present when we play as he plays as well and has to unlock the building. Its invite only and all of us who play have signed multiple waivers. No one can play without permission. As regards trespassers we had to drop a game in the summer as the building was broken into and the site wasnt secure. Edit; Not sure about whether the presence of non players is required. A few of the guys take it in turns stepping out and marshalling but its more like a group of mates having a kick around in the park than a proper event. It gets pretty rough on occasion, the only downside is no pyro.

Actually when the risk assessment is done any issues are high lighted and added to the waiver. You then sign off that the owner can in no way be held liable for any injuries as you play at own risk. The risk assessment would need redoing after 12 months. As I said if you pay a fee to play or a fee to rent the site then its different as thats a business transaction and comes under a whole different set of rules. I know this as I have been playing a derelict site for the last 9 months. It was also there that I injured myself in November. The biggest hurdle is finding a place that will let you use the site for free.

I reckon you will see a new famas before too long. The updated G2 to work with the felin system is a nice looking bit of kit. Would be surprised if none of the airsoft manufacturers are looking at doing one. Would like to see an airsoft version of the Radon bullpup as well.

There is a lot of legislation and red tape if setting up a proper skirmish site but hes talking about using a derelict site with permission for a private skirmish thats a different thing altogether. You need agreement from the owner. Agreement from the insurance company. A risk assessment will need doing as its a business site so even with players signing a waiver there has to be some health and safety. Forget pyro as using them comes with a hefty premium on insurance. Because all players are playing at own risk and its voluntary and signing waivers you dont need insurance for injury but it can affect building insurance in case of damage to property expect to pay for that. You will need to inform emergency services just in case someone reports seeing a gun. Best idea is to find a site thats on a private business park with security. If you charge anybody a fee to play it becomes a business and all of the above means nothing. If its free then its just for fun and on private premises you dont need the same coverage. Just keep it indoors because even if playing a game its not a registered site so rifs cannot be in public view.

Its totally doable but takes a bit of effort.