Elindio Posted May 30 Posted May 30 Hey guys looking for a secondary to my Ngrs. I’m undecided between a m&p9L or 4.3 hi capa. I know both are great but, I am my main concern is reliability and just keeping them alive. Thanks.
Impulse Posted May 30 Posted May 30 Honestly, just go with whichever you prefer the look of. TM pistols (assuming you're talking about the TM ones) are all really reliable and you don't need to do anything to them for them to shoot pretty damn well. Just leave it stock and it will last you seemingly forever. Cannonfodder and Holly Wallace 2
Elindio Posted May 30 Author Posted May 30 Fair. I like a lot of them haha. the only one I don’t is glock. The ergonomics aren’t good for me. EvilMonkee and Lozart 2
Supporters Lozart Posted June 2 Supporters Posted June 2 On 31/05/2025 at 00:31, Elindio said: Fair. I like a lot of them haha. the only one I don’t is glock. The ergonomics aren’t good for me. Good man, glad to hear I'm not the only one! EvilMonkee and Elindio 1 1
MistakenMexican Posted June 2 Posted June 2 On 30/05/2025 at 20:41, Elindio said: Hey guys looking for a secondary to my Ngrs. I’m undecided between a m&p9L or 4.3 hi capa. I know both are great but, I am my main concern is reliability and just keeping them alive. Thanks. In my opinion, the M&P9L and hicapa 4.3 are vastly different pistols. The 9L is a “long barrel” pistol. Similar in length to the hicapa 5.1. Personally I’d recommend the Hicapa as they have a more abundant spare parts and upgrades. the M&Ps used to have loads of upgrades and spare parts but most of that has dried up as popularity dropped off.
EDcase Posted June 2 Posted June 2 (edited) The only thing I will say is the 4.3 will have slightly less power compared to a standard length pistol. Edited June 2 by EDcase
heroshark Posted June 2 Posted June 2 I'd go M&P. The newer 15mm bbu models run better in the cold. Rogerborg 1
Matt.2504 Posted June 4 Posted June 4 as someone else stated above, all tm pistols are reliable. Both of the pistols mentioned in the real world would be double stacked magazines - makes no difference in Airsoft but means you have a larger gas reservoir than say a traditional 1911. Both have pros and cons in my opinion. m&p pros - highly ergonomic and really comfy in the hand and looks a lot nicer ( only my opinion) cons - not as many after market parts as hi-Capa. hi Capa Pros - lots of upgraded parts easily available cons - not as aesthetically pleasing as the M&P. I have a 5.1 and it took a Kimber style externals to stop it looking so square. I’ve owned most types of pistol over the years; I’ve found the ergonomics of the M&P to be the best in my hand. alternatively if you’re willing to venture away from the options you listed; the HK.45 is really good - once again a highly ergonomic pistol. Or the FNX.45 is also an excellent choice but lacks upgrade parts.
Elindio Posted June 5 Author Posted June 5 If the parts market is dried up. That’s not good haha. how about the HK45? I was eyeing that as well. Is there a lot of parts ? If not, will go capa.
Supporters Lozart Posted June 5 Supporters Posted June 5 1 minute ago, Elindio said: If the parts market is dried up. That’s not good haha. how about the HK45? I was eyeing that as well. Is there a lot of parts ? If not, will go capa. What parts are you thinking of? Mine has a Maple Leaf barrel and hop rubber and a Laylax outer barrel. It only needed the outer barrel because I dropped it on the muzzle and damaged the original one. If you're looking for a pistol to smother in loads of pointless anodised tat then yes, Hi-Capa or AAP-01 are probably your best bet. If you want a decent pistol that is reliable and shoots well then yes, the HK45 is good (as is pretty much any TM pistol) as long as the ergonomics work for you. Elindio 1
Elindio Posted June 5 Author Posted June 5 More so slides, nozzles etc. anything that might break. I don’t need 1000000 different slides grips etc. just enough to keep it up and running . I would wait for the glock 17.5 but. As I said the ergo is all messed up. I am also a sinner (lefty haha)
Supporters Lozart Posted June 5 Supporters Posted June 5 40 minutes ago, Elindio said: More so slides, nozzles etc. anything that might break. I don’t need 1000000 different slides grips etc. just enough to keep it up and running . I would wait for the glock 17.5 but. As I said the ergo is all messed up. I am also a sinner (lefty haha) HK45 then. Glocks are wank. Controls on the HK45 are ambidextrous too so double win. Apart from the safety of course, but who ever actually uses THAT?
heroshark Posted June 5 Posted June 5 (edited) The tactical is fully ambidextrous. One of the reasons I have HK45 (previously a capa man) is I had various friends running it from the release of the standard version and never had to replace any of it. I got the tactical not long after the release and much the same. That's running it as a primary too not just a holster filler like most. Although I have changed it a little. With a little inner barrel modification you can fit any TM cut gbb inner barrel so you are not limited to the lalax. And don't change to any of their springs they're rubbish and impede performance, many people I know and in discussions have found this. 12 minutes ago, EDcase said: WE CT25 ?? Terrible gun but I do love mine. Edited June 5 by heroshark EDcase and Lozart 2
Elindio Posted June 5 Author Posted June 5 There are replacement slides,nozzles bbu etc if need be correct ? Worst case. Just always prepare for the worst haha. I also plan on using predator ultra gas as well.
heroshark Posted June 5 Posted June 5 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Elindio said: There are replacement slides,nozzles bbu etc if need be correct ? Worst case. Just always prepare for the worst haha. I also plan on using predator ultra gas as well. Never had to look. I'd just buy another if I couldnt find one. By the time this dies TM will have probably come out with something better to turn my head?. I use the old gunfire green most of the year round. In extreme cold it slows the cycle a little then I use black gas and it goes like it's a normal day. Edited June 5 by heroshark Elindio 1
Elindio Posted June 5 Author Posted June 5 I will look into it for sure. Thanks! You hk looks great! Love the paint job. heroshark 1
BigStew Posted June 5 Posted June 5 Another vote for the HK45 Tactical. Though i also really like the TM PX4.
heroshark Posted June 5 Posted June 5 Oh and if you aren't bothered about realism and more performance the hadron tdc barrel is meant to be amazing.
Elindio Posted June 6 Author Posted June 6 Going to the shop tomorrow to feel a hk45 and a Glock one last time before I order.
Supporters Lozart Posted June 6 Supporters Posted June 6 4 hours ago, Elindio said: and a Glock heroshark, Impulse and Elindio 3
heroshark Posted June 6 Posted June 6 If they made a Gen1 or 2 with the latest TM gbbp internal as stock I might be tempted.
Elindio Posted June 6 Author Posted June 6 The gen 5 is definitely more ergonomic then gen 3 glock haha.
Anonymoose Posted June 7 Posted June 7 On 06/06/2025 at 05:25, Elindio said: Going to the shop tomorrow to feel a Glock one last time before I order. ?? Jacob Wright 1
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