WoodLau18 Posted December 29, 2024 Share Posted December 29, 2024 I’ve been playing for about 3 years now and I’ve fancy a dmr maybe a bolt action rifle maybe. Not 100% on the sniper role don’t fancy going down the road of been in a ghille. Anyone got any suggestions on a good place to start with one? Majority of sites they has to be a real steel equivalent in order for it to be used as a dmr. Prefer gas over aegs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Tackle Posted December 29, 2024 Moderators Share Posted December 29, 2024 M14 all day long👍 Anonymoose and EDcase 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymoose Posted December 29, 2024 Share Posted December 29, 2024 I'd love to build a SCAR-H MK20, but there's the HK 417 M110A1 makes for a very nice rifle too. My current one, although not had it on the field yet as needs a good service: ButcherBill, EDcase and Jacob Wright 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Jez_Armstrong Posted December 29, 2024 Moderators Share Posted December 29, 2024 31 minutes ago, Anonymoose said: I'd love to build a SCAR-H MK20, but there's the HK 417 M110A1 makes for a very nice rifle too. My current one, although not had it on the field yet as needs a good service: was this one of mine? if not, can it be lol Tackle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymoose Posted December 29, 2024 Share Posted December 29, 2024 2 minutes ago, Jez_Armstrong said: was this one of mine? if not, can it be lol No, it's one you asked me to donate to you. But no, you can't have it, i like it far too much. (Sorrynotsorry.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Jez_Armstrong Posted December 29, 2024 Moderators Share Posted December 29, 2024 dibs 1 minute ago, Anonymoose said: No, it's one you asked me to donate to you. But no, you can't have it, i like it far too much. (Sorrynotsorry.) Anonymoose 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymoose Posted December 29, 2024 Share Posted December 29, 2024 9 minutes ago, Jez_Armstrong said: dibs I will be sure to make a note of that in my will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impulse Posted December 29, 2024 Share Posted December 29, 2024 (edited) Gas DMRs are... not for everyone. You lose the consistency of an HPA or AEG setup (and consistency is really important for a DMR), but it's not unusable and is way more fun. My favourite DMR is built on an MWS platform and is really, really good. During good weather on propane, mine tends to chrono between 1.8 and 1.86J, so a variance of about 0.06J which is easily consistent enough for a DMR (and anyone who says it isn't just needs to learn to shoot). However, the downside is that I can't use it during the winter as the variance increases to a whopping 0.3J (tested it today in 3 celcius with heavy mists sapping any warmth from the magazines further, plus I left the magazines out all morning so they were very, very cold!), which isn't consistent enough as that starts affecting how well it hops the BBs. When it comes to AR-15 based DMRs, you can get away with a mk12 like I have at sites that require it to be a real DMR platform, as while it's technically an SPR, it's usually an exception to the "must be .308" rule for airsoft DMRs. In case it isn't obvious, my DMR is the top one 😂 Edited December 29, 2024 by Impulse ButcherBill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButcherBill Posted December 29, 2024 Share Posted December 29, 2024 I kinda fancy a DMR role, mainly due to being a lard arse so no sprinting to the target or tactical advances but my local site has a max 1.2j 360fps on everything except a bolt action. I still want to keep trying my GBBR's tho, might take my mk12 aeg to see how it fairs. Anonymoose 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymoose Posted December 29, 2024 Share Posted December 29, 2024 3 minutes ago, ButcherBill said: I kinda fancy a DMR role, mainly due to being a lard arse so no sprinting to the target or tactical advances but my local site has a max 1.2j 360fps on everything except a bolt action. I still want to keep trying my GBBR's tho, might take my mk12 aeg to see how it fairs. I'm tempted to buy a Marui M249 and stick a scope on it. If i can't hit them with quality, i'll hit them with quantity. (Courtesy of the 1,000-round magazine capacity.) I'm actually going to take my bolt action to the next game and see how i get on. ButcherBill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButcherBill Posted December 29, 2024 Share Posted December 29, 2024 I usually take a couple of AEG's as plan B if GBBR's don't behave, the mk12 has only ever been crono'd and sits at 1.15j 352.4fps so might be an ideal pew for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatboy40 Posted December 29, 2024 Share Posted December 29, 2024 1 hour ago, WoodLau18 said: Majority of sites they has to be a real steel equivalent in order for it to be used as a dmr. UK sites? Personally I've not played at a single site that's told me my DMR has to match a real steel of any sort. Do you mind me asking what sites they are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Jez_Armstrong Posted December 29, 2024 Moderators Share Posted December 29, 2024 3 minutes ago, Fatboy40 said: UK sites? Personally I've not played at a single site that's told me my DMR has to match a real steel of any sort. Do you mind me asking what sites they are? A lot of sites mainly ask that you do not strap a big scope and a drum mag onto a diddy M4 thats shotting at 420fps and call it a DMR Cannonfodder, Tackle and Galvatron 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Tackle Posted December 29, 2024 Moderators Share Posted December 29, 2024 1 hour ago, Fatboy40 said: UK sites? Personally I've not played at a single site that's told me my DMR has to match a real steel of any sort. Do you mind me asking what sites they are? I remember when dmr's were becoming a "thing", quite a few sites announced that they had to have an irl equivalent, but that was many years ago, lot of the sites & organisers I frequented are gone, so not sure who now specifies that rule. I did agree with it though, as Jez pointed out above, some players just take the piss, a big scope doesn't make an M4 a dmr, nor does a box mag make it a support weapon. 😏 Cannonfodder and Galvatron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymoose Posted December 29, 2024 Share Posted December 29, 2024 27 minutes ago, Tackle said: I did agree with it though, as Jez pointed out above, some players just take the piss, a big scope doesn't make it a dmr. 😏 Damnit.. Tackle, Galvatron, ButcherBill and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krisz Posted December 30, 2024 Share Posted December 30, 2024 9 hours ago, WoodLau18 said: I’ve been playing for about 3 years now and I’ve fancy a dmr maybe a bolt action rifle maybe. Not 100% on the sniper role don’t fancy going down the road of been in a ghille. Anyone got any suggestions on a good place to start with one? Majority of sites they has to be a real steel equivalent in order for it to be used as a dmr. Prefer gas over aegs. If you want performance you stay away from vanilla gas guns. It's either hpa or custom built aeg. LoopDK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMKipper Posted December 30, 2024 Share Posted December 30, 2024 13 hours ago, Fatboy40 said: UK sites? Personally I've not played at a single site that's told me my DMR has to match a real steel of any sort. Do you mind me asking what sites they are? All three of my local-ish site do this: Gunman, Imperium and UCAP. If you want to go gas DMR, I’d recommend a SCAR H, either WE or VFC. Mine was lovely, shot very well, just wasn’t really my style of play. Tackle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st commando Posted December 30, 2024 Share Posted December 30, 2024 Scar h , G3 , FAL , SR25 , MK12 are all good options . Avoid the M14 as it isn't as comfortable with weight as other designs although I still love my M14 it rarely gets a look in . My most consistent , accurate and long range rifle is easily my GBB fal and that's not even running at dmr power Tackle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Tackle Posted December 30, 2024 Moderators Share Posted December 30, 2024 11 minutes ago, 1st commando said: Scar h , G3 , FAL , SR25 , MK12 are all good options . Avoid the M14 as it isn't as comfortable with weight as other designs although I still love my M14 it rarely gets a look in . My most consistent , accurate and long range rifle is easily my GBB fal and that's not even running at dmr power Weirdly enough, the "traditional" rifle stock shape of the M14 seems to suit me better (at least in the dmr role anyway), whereas if I'm clearing buildings etc, then rifles with vertical pistol grips are a better fit. I think it's just what you get comfortable with, maybe a certain amount of muscle memory, all my younger marksmanship training & live firing was on traditional stocked rifles, mainly 7.62 & .303, guess it's like riding a bike, you never really forget. Enid_Puceflange 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amokura Posted December 30, 2024 Share Posted December 30, 2024 I think as a DMR, I've found the LCT As Val to be pretty comfy, and it can quickly be mechanically changed to the usual 1.14 J full-auto. Problem is it's ridiculously expensive for an out-of-the-box DMR I think if I had to go with a site compliant DMR platform, it would be one of the Delta Armory Mk.11s that probably have the best price-performance ratio with the short 5.56 magazines that can easily be configured to a normal rifle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impulse Posted December 30, 2024 Share Posted December 30, 2024 (edited) 3 hours ago, Tackle said: Weirdly enough, the "traditional" rifle stock shape of the M14 seems to suit me better (at least in the dmr role anyway), whereas if I'm clearing buildings etc, then rifles with vertical pistol grips are a better fit. I think it's just what you get comfortable with, maybe a certain amount of muscle memory, all my younger marksmanship training & live firing was on traditional stocked rifles, mainly 7.62 & .303, guess it's like riding a bike, you never really forget. I'd love to use an m14 as a DMR and they're fantastically easy to convert to semi only (literally just disconnect the selector bar, it's a < 5 mins job), but the regular AEG gearbox air volume isn't enough for a 500mm inner barrel and the gearbox itself is fiendishly hard to work on, so if you wanted to use it at sites with different DMR limits it's going to be annoying. I think I'd only use an m14 as a DMR if it was either HPA (like my OD TM version, but I hate the line and tank so it doesn't get much use) or a WE GBBR version, but I don't want to spend £1500 on the setup as I've heard that you basically need to swap everything out internally to get them shooting well and reliably, and then there's the GBBR magazine tax on top of that 😢 Edited December 30, 2024 by Impulse Tackle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatboy40 Posted December 30, 2024 Share Posted December 30, 2024 5 hours ago, LMKipper said: All three of my local-ish site do this: Gunman, Imperium and UCAP. I know about Gunman with their FilmSim games, but for Skirmish I've never seen that DMR's must be real steel equivalent (at least at Bravo). I've never played at any UCAP sites but their website rules do not state that a DMR has to be real steel equivalent, only "Realistic Immitations (sic) Firearms (RIFS) only", which is anything that looks potentially like it could be a real firearm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudson Posted December 30, 2024 Share Posted December 30, 2024 I know Raw War run it as a rule; no 5.56 calibre rifles or below as DMRs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymoose Posted December 30, 2024 Share Posted December 30, 2024 🤤 ButcherBill and Galvatron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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