HuttArmouries Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 Looks to be a piston in grip springer like their saa but I feel a mighty need.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStew Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 This like my third always wanted Airsoft gun. I shall buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Adolf Hamster Posted November 11 Supporters Share Posted November 11 Oooooohhh Also, isnt it 1873 thats the cutoff for vrca stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrooperX Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 1 hour ago, Adolf Hamster said: Oooooohhh Also, isnt it 1873 thats the cutoff for vrca stuff? It’s 1870, so you’re good to acquire one of these as long as you’re over 18, no defence required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedbird_666 Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 Looks like it also takes percussion caps? Kinda makes it part Airsoft, part 'Model' gun it that's the case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuttArmouries Posted November 11 Author Share Posted November 11 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Speedbird_666 said: Looks like it also takes percussion caps? Kinda makes it part Airsoft, part 'Model' gun it that's the case? In the video they showed selling spare cylinders which each came with 6 percussion caps separately. I think its a cosmetic thing rather than actual caps. Edited November 11 by HuttArmouries Speedbird_666 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedbird_666 Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 My more pressing question - is TM making a Howa Type 20? That would be pretty amazeballs if they were. Not been following Airsoft developments quite so closely lately, so the answer might be already be common knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuttArmouries Posted November 11 Author Share Posted November 11 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Speedbird_666 said: My more pressing question - is TM making a Howa Type 20? That would be pretty amazeballs if they were. Not been following Airsoft developments quite so closely lately, so the answer might be already be common knowledge. They had a rubber type 20 training rifle on display at the show so they have likely been hired to make all the training gear again. Their type 89 was bought as a training aid so its likely we arent far off getting a type 20 too. Edited November 11 by HuttArmouries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Adolf Hamster Posted Monday at 17:03 Supporters Share Posted Monday at 17:03 1 hour ago, TrooperX said: It’s 1870, so you’re good to acquire one of these as long as you’re over 18, no defence required. good to know, feels weird asking that question but given i'm out of the game now and a navy colt is one of the few pews i'd consider as a wall-hanger it was worth asking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrooperX Posted Monday at 17:54 Share Posted Monday at 17:54 46 minutes ago, Adolf Hamster said: good to know, feels weird asking that question but given i'm out of the game now and a navy colt is one of the few pews i'd consider as a wall-hanger it was worth asking. My son has a couple of replicas of pre-1870 pistols and I had no problems buying them without a UKARA registration. If you’re literally only after a wall hanger, Kolser make some half decent replicas that are probably cheaper than this TM will be - https://www.battleorders.co.uk/products/replica-colt-navy-1852?variant=44059923677427 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Adolf Hamster Posted Monday at 18:01 Supporters Share Posted Monday at 18:01 4 minutes ago, TrooperX said: If you’re literally only after a wall hanger, Kolser make some half decent replicas that are probably cheaper than this TM will be - https://www.battleorders.co.uk/products/replica-colt-navy-1852?variant=44059923677427 i won't say the occasional indoor plink isn't on the cards, but i'll keep them in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heroshark Posted Monday at 18:07 Share Posted Monday at 18:07 I was curious about what the extra caps are for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitmanNo2 Posted Monday at 18:10 Share Posted Monday at 18:10 2 hours ago, Speedbird_666 said: My more pressing question - is TM making a Howa Type 20? That would be pretty amazeballs if they were. Not been following Airsoft developments quite so closely lately, so the answer might be already be common knowledge. I don't know if it's been confirmed but apparently it's not getting a public release. It's just for military training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuttArmouries Posted Monday at 18:36 Author Share Posted Monday at 18:36 Here we go. from the marui website Percussion cap: to further enhance the realism of the M1851, brass (non-exploding) percussion caps have been added. The M1851 sits between the flintlock and the modern revolver. Fulminate percussion caps were placed on the cylinder to fire the bullets (called balls). Tokyo Marui wanted to fully replicate this feature. 28 minutes ago, hitmanNo2 said: I don't know if it's been confirmed but apparently it's not getting a public release. It's just for military training. Any source on where you heard that because I cannot think of a single reason why that would be the case and seriously doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl Posted Monday at 21:34 Share Posted Monday at 21:34 (edited) 3 hours ago, hitmanNo2 said: I don't know if it's been confirmed but apparently it's not getting a public release. It's just for military training. Perhaps for first release to satisfy Gov't order, may be higher powered that there laws allow. Could be a Civvy Version to follow. IS it a AEG or maybe an NGRS or GBBr? Does look cool. Edited Monday at 21:40 by BigAl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuttArmouries Posted Monday at 21:50 Author Share Posted Monday at 21:50 15 minutes ago, BigAl said: Perhaps for first release to satisfy Gov't order, may be higher powered that there laws allow. Could be a Civvy Version to follow. IS it a AEG or maybe an NGRS or GBBr? Does look cool. Since it is the jsdf service rifle I think it likely it goes the same way as the type 89 and they do both. They never did an ngrs version of that though for whatever reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitmanNo2 Posted Monday at 22:07 Share Posted Monday at 22:07 3 hours ago, HuttArmouries said: Any source on where you heard that because I cannot think of a single reason why that would be the case and seriously doubt it. Not at this moment. Plus it's kind of odd how it's displayed. In that case like that. Not on the wall etc. Plus the card in the display case doesn't scream "wow. Look at our new product. Get your wallet ready" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK47frizzle Posted Monday at 22:15 Share Posted Monday at 22:15 Oooh but the sg553 later in the video.... BigAl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuttArmouries Posted Monday at 22:19 Author Share Posted Monday at 22:19 (edited) 26 minutes ago, hitmanNo2 said: Not at this moment. Plus it's kind of odd how it's displayed. In that case like that. Not on the wall etc. Plus the card in the display case doesn't scream "wow. Look at our new product. Get your wallet ready" It appears we may have been talking at cross purposes. I am talking about potential airsoft guns not the rubber rifle itself. I brought that up because the fact they have made the rubber rifle just ties in with the fact they are probably making the airsoft versions for the army and thus for commercial sale as well reasonably soon. Sorry about that. Thought you were talking about the type 20 in general rather than specifically the rubber one. Edited Monday at 22:34 by HuttArmouries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitmanNo2 Posted Monday at 23:43 Share Posted Monday at 23:43 1 hour ago, HuttArmouries said: It appears we may have been talking at cross purposes. I am talking about potential airsoft guns not the rubber rifle itself. I brought that up because the fact they have made the rubber rifle just ties in with the fact they are probably making the airsoft versions for the army and thus for commercial sale as well reasonably soon. Sorry about that. Thought you were talking about the type 20 in general rather than specifically the rubber one. Yeah. Talking about the airsoft type 20 too really. Just that it wasn't a product announcement or anything and the general consensus from the show was "maybe they'll release one in the future". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuttArmouries Posted Tuesday at 00:06 Author Share Posted Tuesday at 00:06 20 minutes ago, hitmanNo2 said: Yeah. Talking about the airsoft type 20 too really. Just that it wasn't a product announcement or anything and the general consensus from the show was "maybe they'll release one in the future". I find it unlikely that they wont do the Japanese army rifle and if an airsoft company has been contracted to make one type of training rifle and its not an airsoft gun then its pretty likely an airsoft gun will be coming. I imagine that takes a little longer to develop than a lump of rubber though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rj1986 Posted Tuesday at 09:14 Share Posted Tuesday at 09:14 (edited) It would be foolish IMO not to make a type 20 at this point. [Extremely simplistic viewpoint] They have the rubber moulds and dimensions for the externals, the stock is close to the scar so they don't have to spend loads in R&D on making that, the charging handle is non reciprocating so no SCAR broken issues there (for GBB or NGRS), and ambi fire selector is again already designed. They would need to make sure they can fit a gearbox in there or the MWS system, and the ambi mag release but thats about it. And official TM P-mags would just print money. Edited Tuesday at 09:19 by rj1986 Spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitmanNo2 Posted Tuesday at 10:33 Share Posted Tuesday at 10:33 (edited) Something to consider is that it might be out of the hands of TM. They've fulfilled/are fulfilling a government contract remember. It might dictate no public sales. I had a read through it the SDF procurement requirements specification and apparently it needs to make a gun shot sound when it fires. Unclear if that's an electronic sound like one of their bolt rifles or if the report of a GBB would accomplish that. Edited Tuesday at 10:33 by hitmanNo2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuttArmouries Posted Tuesday at 12:49 Author Share Posted Tuesday at 12:49 2 hours ago, hitmanNo2 said: Something to consider is that it might be out of the hands of TM. They've fulfilled/are fulfilling a government contract remember. It might dictate no public sales. I had a read through it the SDF procurement requirements specification and apparently it needs to make a gun shot sound when it fires. Unclear if that's an electronic sound like one of their bolt rifles or if the report of a GBB would accomplish that. But the government previously allowed commercial sales of the type 89 which was also a training aid. Its practically free advertising for recruitment. There is nothing special or secret about the type 20 so what would be the reason for restricting a toy version of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters TheFull9 Posted Tuesday at 14:30 Supporters Share Posted Tuesday at 14:30 Any military officer or civilian of high enough rank who's involved with that sort of program can decide at any time they don't like the feeling of x, y or z and write it in to the contract. I'm not saying that has happened here, but it's the sort of thing that does and can happen. As always, the only proof of the pudding will be eating it i.e. wait and see. That's all anyone can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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