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So, to stop getting scammed how can you get someone to verify they aren't trying to rip you off. Any methods for verification ?, let's say they don't have any feedback, do you just have to chance it when purchasing let's say on the classifieds in this forum. 

Hmmmm🤔

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23 minutes ago, Barry Sayer said:

Question....

So, to stop getting scammed how can you get someone to verify they aren't trying to rip you off. Any methods for verification ?, let's say they don't have any feedback, do you just have to chance it when purchasing let's say on the classifieds in this forum. 

Hmmmm🤔

Ask for a live video meeting with them showing you the item.  That at least proves that they have it.

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10 minutes ago, Barry Sayer said:

Question....

So, to stop getting scammed how can you get someone to verify they aren't trying to rip you off. Any methods for verification ?, let's say they don't have any feedback, do you just have to chance it when purchasing let's say on the classifieds in this forum. 

Hmmmm🤔

Ask for more pics for starters, & mix it up by asking for specific items included in the pics, weirder the better, maybe a green toothbrush balanced on a tin of spam alongside today's newspaper with their username scrawled on the front page.

If he does all that your probably good to go, but don't get lax with the payment, paypal goods & services, or cash on collection..........NOTHING ELSE !.

If your swapping kit, my rule of thumb is whoever has the lowest feedback sends their stuff first, & only when you've received it & happy with it do you send your half of the trade.

Also, if your the seller, make time dated vids of stuff working, in case the buyer tries to say its faulty via a PayPal claim,  I had someone sabotage a gun & mags to make a false claim, the video closed him down full stop.

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Sound advice above 👍

A 'video call' is a good  idea ! 

 

I've found if someone isn't transparent in the real world (social media, associated to clubs, well known and alike) I'd be suspicious I.e. nothing to hide there shouldn't be a problem. 

It grinds my bones when someone gets ripped off 😡

 

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1 hour ago, Barry Sayer said:

Question....

So, to stop getting scammed how can you get someone to verify they aren't trying to rip you off. Any methods for verification ?, let's say they don't have any feedback, do you just have to chance it when purchasing let's say on the classifieds in this forum. 

Hmmmm🤔

 

If they seem dodgy and they send me an image of what they "have", I'll always google reverse image it as 90% of the time the original item will show up. If that fails I'll ask for more images, rinse and repeat. 

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2 hours ago, Barry Sayer said:

Question....

So, to stop getting scammed how can you get someone to verify they aren't trying to rip you off. Any methods for verification ?, let's say they don't have any feedback, do you just have to chance it when purchasing let's say on the classifieds in this forum. 

Hmmmm🤔

I feel your pain, I know its restrictive mate, but I think I am only going to sell to people with feedback or at least 3 months on the forum with a decent posting history. There are so many about nowadays everywhere, and lets just say you are selling something cheap - even getting your personal data from a paypal transaction can be profitable from what I have read. 

 

As the mods have said - lean on them too. I have to say, the chaps have been providing an excellent service to us all in terms of the anti scammer work that is going on.

Cheers

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Yet another scammer replying to wanted ads with photos taken off the internet, even used the same photos the last scammer used, probably the same guy using a different user name.IMG_0545.thumb.png.f6734d31b5b0646f1c4dd5e206aa1ca5.png

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2 hours ago, Allen428 said:

Yet another scammer replying to wanted ads with photos taken off the internet, even used the same photos the last scammer used, probably the same guy using a different user name.IMG_0545.thumb.png.f6734d31b5b0646f1c4dd5e206aa1ca5.png

Bigbirdnia, resident of Nigeria, is gone.👋

 

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(I'm sure he'll be back)

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@Snowthug is one of our Nigerian  members, well he was lol🤣

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Would IP banning not work potentially ?

They don't seem very sophisticated scammers and basic VPN functions tend to hold the same one

I know its different for paid VPN and proxy switchers but surely it's a semi-decent solution for it ?

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8 hours ago, navyvet86 said:

Would IP banning not work potentially ?

They don't seem very sophisticated scammers and basic VPN functions tend to hold the same one

I know its different for paid VPN and proxy switchers but surely it's a semi-decent solution for it ?

IP banning is very difficult, and very easily blocks valid users.


Ive not gone into many VPNs recently, but in my experience the most basic VPNs allocate a random IP - and unless you keep the VPN enabled will get a fresh one next time

I occasionally use the free version of a VPN and when switching on I get a random VPN in a random country, if I want a specific country I have to select, but still get a random fresh IP every time 

 

IPs are very rarely fixed, and those are left for specific services.   Users IPs are leased from the IP server - you get a maximum period of usage, and at any time a fresh log in can get reallocated 

 

 

When I was moderating a forum we had a few options in our processes, and could handle it differently depending on the incoming spam.  If they were continuing to send then the big button was hit, IP blocked, user suspended (or deleted), and in addition we had a user report come up with IP country/region, IP range, network provider, user profile, list of posts etc - then decide on the action

Speciific IP blocking was pretty pointless, they just reset and were back

Region blocking could kill off access from a whole country - and it was a UK based forum, but we had some world users plus some members of the community plus some moderators worked internationally (including a couple in the private aircraft industry)

Hard hammer use would block their access - especially against spammers that used public WiFi / Internet cafe providers

 

IP blocking is a tool that can be used, but with care and effort to be sure of what you’re blocking 

 

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