A flashbang with smoke and voice，the power by electricity(3.7v Button cell)

[Miêu Anh-Nguyễn]

This is my friend's DIY work,

 

It is similar to the smoke from e-cigarettes and model tanks. It has a buzzer and an orange LED light that can be reused (but I think it could be damaged by throwing it hard).

This video about he test it in his house, apparently, it doesn't hurt the wood floor.(LED and smoke generator)

The effect is actually quite striking, at least for me.

 

He gave me a DIY flame suppresser with smoke function, similar in principle and parts.To be honest, my English is not very good, so if I say something wrong, please point it out to me

Edited August 6, 2023 by Miêu Anh-Nguyễn

[Nick G]

Those are very cool, I especially like the suppresser. And very good english . Keep the updates coming.

 

[THE FNG]

Is he planning on selling them? They are very cool and I would be interested. There's certainly a market for them!

[Emergencychimps]

These look pretty darn cool! 

 

I'd be interested if they became available. Would love an event they were compulsory at 

[Miêu Anh-Nguyễn]

4 minutes ago, THE FNG said:

Is he planning on selling them? They are very cool and I would be interested. There's certainly a market for them!

Probably not.

Even that flashbang isn't in production yet.

Only the suppressor has been patented. But this is a unit component that you can cram into any suppressor you want. This stuff should have no problem getting to England.

[Miêu Anh-Nguyễn]

19 minutes ago, Miêu Anh-Nguyễn said:

Probably not.

Even that flashbang isn't in production yet.

Only the suppressor has been patented. But this is a unit component that you can cram into any suppressor you want. This stuff should have no problem getting to England.

The interior parts look something like this: AR style, AK style, even Osprey for pistol

Edited August 6, 2023 by Miêu Anh-Nguyễn

[Tommikka]

Am I right from your description that the grenade is releasing fog which is lit up by LED?

 

The explosion videos do look like flames which was worrying to watch.

If they look the same in reality it would still have concerns for sites - if seen without knowing details not would be an immeadiate no, but could still be a worry to a receiving player 

If it’s just a very realistic effect based on lighting up fog then it would be fine

[Tackle]

All looks great,really good, but agree if those are real flames (they looked very real?), then unlikely it would be welcome on many sites.

[Chev Chelios]

Wow that Flash Bang is awesome.

 

Looks very real but am sure its just the vaper like with these things https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac8MOmBb6mk&ab_channel=OSReviews 

 

[Rogerborg]

I'm equally as sure that there must be some sort of pyrotechnics in there, I can't see how you'd get that sparking effect from vapour.

[Tackle]

@Miêu Anh-Nguyễn, possibly an odd request, but would you  consider posting a prototype to a long term respected member on here in order that it be reviewed fully & then returned to you, purely for clarification of any potential safety issues in its use.

I think it would go a long way to reassuring the community as a whole & also give validation to its feasibility ?. 

 

Edit. I should add that I'm not putting myself forward, if I had to recommend someone I'd probably suggest @Asomodai(if he was in agreement), as he already has a long history of excellent site reviews on here. ?

Edited August 7, 2023 by Tackle
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[Tommikka]

On 06/08/2023 at 13:59, Tackle said:

All looks great,really good, but agree if those are real flames (they looked very real?), then unlikely it would be welcome on many sites.

 

On 06/08/2023 at 16:06, Chev Chelios said:

Wow that Flash Bang is awesome.

 

Looks very real but am sure its just the vaper like with these things https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac8MOmBb6mk&ab_channel=OSReviews 

 

 

10 hours ago, Rogerborg said:

I'm equally as sure that there must be some sort of pyrotechnics in there, I can't see how you'd get that sparking effect from vapour.

I’m still not convinced there isn’t something pyrotechnic in there @Miêu Anh-Nguyễn

 

The vapour effects as noted by @Chev Chelioswould show a flame like effect as the vapour cloud ‘flows’

 

But screen grabbing from the slow motion appears to show sparks and a smoke like grey cloud as well as flames 

It looks like their is a pyrotechnic element plus LED lights that still glow after the bang

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 7, 2023 by Tommikka

[Tommikka]

………

 

Sparks etc are not necessarily a bad thing - filming any of the disposable pyrotechnics under slow motion would expect to reveal sparks 

Actually the ‘right’ way to use a striker smoke is to strike it, hold to one side for the sparking until the smoke kicks in, then throw.

The different chemical mixes of each colour can give variations in the level of sparking 

 

 

The concern comes from how much sparking and burning etc and how it is harnessed / directed 

 

A product used on site in the UK will need to comply with safety regulations 

 

Even compliant pyro can have issues

Those in the know or with a search around my posts will be able to identify my sponsors.

Their scientist contributed to the drafting of EU pyrotechnic standards and they have vigorous quality assurance processes, of which of participated in a few times with the batches as they arrive in the UK - every production batch number has a percentage of cases pulled at random as the container is unloaded. Then every item from those batches is set off (not at the pyro storage, but at a different location). These are tested against a checklist including timing of each stage of burn for each product design - any failure to comply with the Doctors specifications withdraws the full batch run

 

 

……….

 

We experienced a failure in game (and on camera) with a different manufacturer.

The photo sequence and burnt glove were put on display in the factory 

They had become complacent on the production line, and contaminated the  fuse with the main payload.  As soon as he struck the fuse a whole Mk9 exploded in his hand 

 

This was a ‘standards compliant’ factory production piece, let alone a custom DIY design 

[Miêu Anh-Nguyễn]

12 hours ago, Tommikka said:

 

 

I’m still not convinced there isn’t something pyrotechnic in there @Miêu Anh-Nguyễn

 

The vapour effects as noted by @Chev Chelioswould show a flame like effect as the vapour cloud ‘flows’

 

But screen grabbing from the slow motion appears to show sparks and a smoke like grey cloud as well as flames 

It looks like their is a pyrotechnic element plus LED lights that still glow after the bang

 

 

 

 

 

 

My sincere apologies here.

 

In fact, your suspicion is quite right. I was wrong
Because I didn't ask my friend how it worked, he said he was designing two different energy systems: electricity and Sparkler, and the video he sent me used the latter as a power source, which I mistook for an electrical system. And I apologize to everyone here for that.
I'll send a video when the power system comes out in a while. I'm sorry

 

There will be factory standard procedures by the time it goes into production, which will be much safer.

Edited August 8, 2023 by Miêu Anh-Nguyễn

[Tommikka]

2 hours ago, Miêu Anh-Nguyễn said:

My sincere apologies here.

 

In fact, your suspicion is quite right. I was wrong
…...
I'll send a video when the power system comes out in a while. I'm sorry

 

There will be factory standard procedures by the time it goes into production, which will be much safer.

No worries 

 

Either way you have captured the imagination of the members here

 

Pyro editions have the other safety standards to apply 

Powered ones also have safety standards - but an explosion isn’t one (unless of course there’s major battery damage etc) 

 

[mightyjebus]

The suppressor already exists by another company. check here:

https://topboosttoys.com/products/smoke-wolf-silencer

 

unless this is you?

 

anyway, cool idea and I might or might not have ordered one

[Miêu Anh-Nguyễn]

1 hour ago, mightyjebus said:

The suppressor already exists by another company. check here:

https://topboosttoys.com/products/smoke-wolf-silencer

 

unless this is you?

 

anyway, cool idea and I might or might not have ordered one

In fact, I have look his product on the gel airsoft forum in China in april of this year, and he launched this suppressor several months later than us.（the first osprey suppressor done in november 2022） If necessary, I can use the VPN back the frum screenshot and provide web address.And now have more choices, compatible with most AK or AR series suppressor like KAC QDC/SOCOM and PBS, but I can't ship a large number of them to the UK at present. By the way They actually cost around £60 in China?.

 

I would consider sending a few by sea and selling them at cost (shipping personal items seems to cost only £3 a kilo).