AirsoftRich Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Does anybody have any experience with Bolt AEG recoil stock rifles? Any reviews, pros or cons? I like the TM as said in previous post. I’m just considering my options but I like to do my research and gather general opinion on manufacturers and specific products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK47frizzle Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 They're ok, but nothing special. Had one of their M4s before. The recoil is noticeable but it's just a kinda feels like a rubberband being pinged at you. Looking at patrolbase atm, around 350+ for one of those things. I can't really say i'd recommend it. A TM recoil M4 has much nicer externals. AirsoftRich 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirsoftRich Posted August 31, 2021 Author Share Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, AK47frizzle said: They're ok, but nothing special. Had one of their M4s before. The recoil is noticeable but it's just a kinda feels like a rubberband being pinged at you. Looking at patrolbase atm, around 350+ for one of those things. I can't really say i'd recommend it. A TM recoil M4 has much nicer externals. Thanks. I was leaning more towards the TM. I visited a well known Airsoft store today and had this conversation about the TM and I felt they were trying to push the Bolt as a comparable but inexpensive option. I just didn’t feel like it was something to compare to a renowned TM so I came here for answers and opinions. I’m completely open to all suggestions BUT I do my research first. Looking forward to more input from people. Edited August 31, 2021 by AirsoftRich Correction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDcase Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) I was considering a BOLT but my research on recoils brought me to THIS Out of curiosity, anyone tried one to compare? I found one for a good price at Bespoke and the recoil seems amazing to me but I haven't been able to compare to a BOLT or TM. It has a different impulse to my GBBRs of course but its almost more violent to the point that I'm wondering how long it will last 🤔 Unfortunately they're hard to find now. Edited September 1, 2021 by EDcase AirsoftRich 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjhirst Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 Sorry to throw another one in, but have you considered the KWA range at all? I had the TK45 and it really was a superb EBB. Very solid and pretty darn accurate at stock setting. BigAl and AirsoftRich 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirsoftRich Posted September 1, 2021 Author Share Posted September 1, 2021 8 hours ago, EDcase said: I was considering a BOLT but my research on recoils brought me to THIS Out of curiosity, anyone tried one to compare? I found one for a good price at Bespoke and the recoil seems amazing to me but I haven't been able to compare to a BOLT or TM. It has a different impulse to my GBBRs of course but its almost more violent to the point that I'm wondering how long it will last 🤔 Unfortunately they're hard to find now. That’s certainly interesting. It looks like a fair amount of recoil on that. Shame it’s hard to find these days. 1 hour ago, sjhirst said: Sorry to throw another one in, but have you considered the KWA range at all? I had the TK45 and it really was a superb EBB. Very solid and pretty darn accurate at stock setting. ‘Goes off to look’ 👀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stratton Oakmont Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 (edited) I’ve had both, the bolt kicks harder but the gen 2 quality is better than the gen 1 but nowhere near tm. KWA - stronger recoil built like tanks and get the later rear wired generation 3 if you want Titan compatible gearbox. Id buy the kwa over the bolt particularly the pts stock/rail centurion m4 model but I would still take the Tm over the KWA as you are getting into Tm recoil price point Edited September 1, 2021 by Stratton Oakmont AirsoftRich 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirsoftRich Posted September 1, 2021 Author Share Posted September 1, 2021 3 hours ago, Stratton Oakmont said: I’ve had both, the bolt kicks harder but the gen 2 quality is better than the gen 1 but nowhere near tm. KWA - stronger recoil built like tanks and get the later rear wired generation 3 if you want Titan compatible gearbox. Id buy the kwa over the bolt particularly the pts stock/rail centurion m4 model but I would still take the Tm over the KWA as you are getting into Tm recoil price point I have been looking at a few reviews on the KWA Ronin it seems pretty good. One thing that may push me to the TM though is the fire selector on the KWA. In a review by Patrol Base he mentioned that although it’s ambi the right side is slightly shorter than the left to accomodate your trigger finger. Thing is although I can shoulder and shoot both left or right I am left handed and it’s much more comfortable for me left hand on the trigger. I will have to hold one in person to decide that. Tactical Pith Helmet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkman Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 I have a BOLT M16 and a TM NGRS M4 SOPMOD and the TM quality is better than BOLT's, but the recoil is waay better than the TM...but I would go for a TM instead, considering there isn't much in the price point. (Depending where you shop) I've never had a problem with my TM, but i've broken the BOLT once, which Negative Airsoft fixed for me..but I am starting to have further issues with the BOLT...the main one being the Stock has sheered away from the the gun and until I can figure out how to fix it, it's gaffer taped on... The recoil of this gun is just too much for it to handle I think.... I still love my BOLT, it's a lot of fun to play with...but the TM is well, just a bit better on QC and longevity. AirsoftRich 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirsoftRich Posted September 1, 2021 Author Share Posted September 1, 2021 37 minutes ago, Monkman said: I have a BOLT M16 and a TM NGRS M4 SOPMOD and the TM quality is better than BOLT's, but the recoil is waay better than the TM...but I would go for a TM instead, considering there isn't much in the price point. (Depending where you shop) I've never had a problem with my TM, but i've broken the BOLT once, which Negative Airsoft fixed for me..but I am starting to have further issues with the BOLT...the main one being the Stock has sheered away from the the gun and until I can figure out how to fix it, it's gaffer taped on... The recoil of this gun is just too much for it to handle I think.... I still love my BOLT, it's a lot of fun to play with...but the TM is well, just a bit better on QC and longevity. Good to know thanks for the input. Monkman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDcase Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 I guess it makes sense that the heavier the recoil the less it will last 🙄 AirsoftRich 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 The KWA/PTS/KSC ERG's are built like tanks and kick like mules. Out of the box they may need a softer hop up as they are designed for higher velocities, no other upgrades are needed. Unlike the tM they will use standard mags without an adapter ( one less thing to go wrong ) but you will lose stop on empty if you have one with that feature. As for the selector bing shorter on one side, its reversible. AirsoftRich 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirsoftRich Posted September 1, 2021 Author Share Posted September 1, 2021 20 minutes ago, BigAl said: The KWA/PTS/KSC ERG's are built like tanks and kick like mules. Out of the box they may need a softer hop up as they are designed for higher velocities, no other upgrades are needed. Unlike the tM they will use standard mags without an adapter ( one less thing to go wrong ) but you will lose stop on empty if you have one with that feature. As for the selector bing shorter on one side, its reversible. I did wonder if the selector would be reversible or not. I’m not really fussed about the bolt stop on empty mags. Would the entire hop need changing or just the rubber? The review by Patrolbase did say it has no problem sending .25’s and .28’s. This is going to take a lot of thought while I move towards my UKARA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 Just the rubber mate. you can't get a UKARA, its a retaiers association, what you need is a defence, ie proof you are a skirmisher. Site Membership is the mot common and is what is recorded on UKARA's database which is simply one way of. proving it. AirsoftRich 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirsoftRich Posted September 1, 2021 Author Share Posted September 1, 2021 1 hour ago, BigAl said: Just the rubber mate. you can't get a UKARA, its a retaiers association, what you need is a defence, ie proof you are a skirmisher. Site Membership is the mot common and is what is recorded on UKARA's database which is simply one way of. proving it. It was a loose term I mean working towards my UKARA Number to use as a valid defence. I am a member of F&O and am completing my required attendances with them. As for the rubbers that’s a whole new mine field for me to navigate. Have heard a lot of people rating the Maple Leaf ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Leaf, Guarder Clear or Purple Prommy iirc. Any decent shop would fit if for you for a few quid. They really are ace guns mate, even th eold winger at Negative Airsoft had nowt bad to say about em. AirsoftRich 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirsoftRich Posted September 2, 2021 Author Share Posted September 2, 2021 @BigAl Trying to find those KWA Ronins in stock is a seperate issue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dentonboy Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Bolt's SR47 range...something that has always tempted me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 @AirsoftRich Might be able to help you with that, pm me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AirsoftRich Posted September 2, 2021 Author Share Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dentonboy said: Bolt's SR47 range...something that has always tempted me. Hmm they look nice and even come with a 600RD Hi Cap (even though such a sizable mag I.M.O. would take away from the immersion ( I haven’t had the opportunity to have 600RD’s yet but I can see how anticlimactic spewing 600 BB’s with no mag change could be)). That being said so far I haven’t read very much in the way of good build quality with Bolt. Edited September 2, 2021 by AirsoftRich Spelling and Grammar Edit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harleyd Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 I have both the newest style recoil both tm and bolt the tm ngrs is nice but unless you got adapter they are proprietary mags where as bolt is any aeg mags with exception to the fact which may be compatibility for example bolt recoil or BRSS 416 won't take a box mag but generally they solid for all mags . The build quality is where the kicker is as tm is nice but and I say a big but they sometimes like the finer details but that is same for most airsoft guns. Bolt recoil kick is considerably bigger than a tm ngrs however more kick equals more wear and tear and unless you've got a gun tech or are knowledgeable about stripping and maintaining brss or ngrs rifles be warned they are a ball ache to maintain mod upgrade etc so in essence bolt recoil or BRSS are a cheaper alternative to TM ngrs but not comparable as such as both have pros and cons BigAl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 Jeez mate, this thread is nearly three years old! JinxDuh, Rogerborg and Cannonfodder 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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