Superkillyjedi86 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Hi all, Just wondered if someone could give me a second opinion. Picked up a new ares rk47. I test fired it and it's coming out between 357 and 362 fps. Have only run about 100 rounds through it. The site i play at is pretty strict on max 350 fps. If I run about 3000 rounds through it should this bring it down a bit ? I've read that the spring just needs to be run in sometimes on a new gun. Should that do it? Thanks for any help in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted October 18, 2019 Supporters Share Posted October 18, 2019 And then you wake up and it's still shooting over 350fps. Narp, that's back to the seller to sort it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagpieTactical Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Although its within the legal limit, so not sure why the seller would agree to sort anything out. Unless they told you it was below 350fps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted October 19, 2019 Supporters Share Posted October 19, 2019 1 hour ago, MagpieAirsoft said: Although its within the legal limit, When tested with 0.2g plastic BBs, yes. 1 hour ago, MagpieAirsoft said: so not sure why the seller would agree to sort anything out. So that they don't get named and pick up a reputation for selling toy guns that are too hot to use at most UK sites. PatrolBase chrono all of their guns. Why can't other sellers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagpieTactical Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 But it's not the responsibility of the retailer to decide which sites they could be used at. As long as it's under the legal limit, which it is, then that's the responsibility covered regarding the fps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted October 19, 2019 Supporters Share Posted October 19, 2019 You'd be happy if you bought an AEG shooting at over 360fps and failed chrono, right? Are you aware of any UK sellers who don't list energy or fps for their guns? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagpieTactical Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 If my site limit is lower then I would do my homework. And ask the retailer to downgrade if it was needed. UK legal limit is not 350. Do buyers not have to take any responsibility on buying what actually suits their needs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted October 19, 2019 Supporters Share Posted October 19, 2019 I notice that you're really great at not answering very simple questions. Are you an airsoft retailer, by any chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superkillyjedi86 Posted October 19, 2019 Author Share Posted October 19, 2019 Hi all, Thanks for the replies everyone. Will see if running it in does anything. If not will go back to the retailer for help. I did ask specifically about it shooting under 350, and it was confirmed it would. If any issues post that will to back to the retailer. And if worst comes to the worst will just look to get the spring swapped. Thanks for the advice everyone. Been out of the hobby for some years so wasnt sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagpieTactical Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 In that case it's been mis sold as they said sub 350 fps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted October 19, 2019 Supporters Share Posted October 19, 2019 1 hour ago, MagpieAirsoft said: In that case it's been mis sold as they said sub 350 fps. So, about those very simple questions that you didn't answer. Do you have any answers yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitmanNo2 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 It's a bit moot really, either it was advertised as sub 350 or it wasn't. If it was, as is indeed the case, it's been mis-sold. If not, whilst 360 is not ideal, it's not illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagpieTactical Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Yes I would be happy with a gun shooting 360fps as it's not illegal. I wouldn't order one if my field limit was below 360fps though. I don't need to be aware of any retailers that don't list fps. I am capable of asking if I want to know. Have done so, and have not ordered as a result on the past. 23 minutes ago, Rogerborg said: So, about those very simple questions that you didn't answer. Do you have any answers yet? Whilst you might think you are being clever, it's only in his latest post that the OP stated the shop had said it would be sub 350. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted October 19, 2019 Supporters Share Posted October 19, 2019 32 minutes ago, MagpieAirsoft said: Yes I would be happy with a gun shooting 360fps I totally believe you and absolutely don't think that you're giving it Billy Big Bananas on the internets when you'd really be crying like a baby if you'd been kicked off site at chrono, without any doubt, certainly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitmanNo2 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Roger, it seems you're being deliberately obtuse. If you wanted a 360fps RIF, you buy one. If you wanted a 350fps gun and it turns out it's 360fps, I'm sure anyone would be annoyed. You look at the details on the site and then complain if it's different to what's advertised. I'm not really sure what you're getting at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted October 19, 2019 Supporters Share Posted October 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, hitmanNo2 said: Roger, it seems you're being deliberately obtuse. Also, Plonk Fish for everyone in this thread. Plonk. Fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musica Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 If a UK retailer wants to sell a gun that shoots over 350fps it should be made VERY clear to the buyer without the buyer having to ask for this type of information. Most UK sites are 350fps limit. Some are lower some are higher but those are the minority not the majority. Patrol base even list this as stat on their website. This pistol is uk legal it can actually shoot another 110FPS and still be UK legal but patrol base have the sense to tell customers it's not site legal. https://www.patrolbase.co.uk/asg-mk1-pistol?pv=944 It's a very stupid discussion going on here. No one would be very happy with a gun shooting over 350 unless that was their intention in the first place when ordering. I certainly wouldn't order from a retailer if they don't cover all the postage costs etc for OP to get this sorted. Mistakes happen but if a retailer was arsey about this I would never order from them again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitmanNo2 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 32 minutes ago, Rogerborg said: It takes all sorts I guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted October 19, 2019 Supporters Share Posted October 19, 2019 16 minutes ago, Musica said: It's a very stupid discussion going on here <you-dont-say.pn... Of course it is. No reputable UK retailer would market or deliberately sell a full auto AEG that chronos at over 350fps. If I had to guess, or even if I didn't, I'd guess that OP has bought from a retailer with "BB" in their URL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaylordofwaargh Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 I have a very understanding site that let's me run @354-362. This is out of the box and in terrified to clean it. The shop I brought it stated a test fire of 348, from the first time I used it, it fired hot. it couldn't send it back due to timings. I do have to dump near a full (hi-cap) mag through it to take the edge of a battery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick G Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Have you got any hop on it ? set it up for the weight you are going to use in it then chrono it again, ideally on joules . 350 fps on .2s is 1.132 j , or using .2s if that's how your site does it. Given that it's not firing a lot over the 350 that may well do the trick. I've got an MP5 a bit like that, set for .25s it chronos fine , we chrono on joules at my local site, but if I take all the hop off it gets a tad hot for the site limits, but then it'll never get used with the hop right off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asomodai Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, Nick G said: Have you got any hop on it ? set it up for the weight you are going to use in it then chrono it again, ideally on joules . 350 fps on .2s is 1.132 j , or using .2s if that's how your site does it. Given that it's not firing a lot over the 350 that may well do the trick. I've got an MP5 a bit like that, set for .25s it chronos fine , we chrono on joules at my local site, but if I take all the hop off it gets a tad hot for the site limits, but then it'll never get used with the hop right off. On a couple of my rifles adding a little bit of hop actually makes it fire hotter as their is less air escaping around the BB! So be careful with that on some rifles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick G Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 14 minutes ago, Asomodai said: On a couple of my rifles adding a little bit of hop actually makes it fire hotter as their is less air escaping around the BB! So be careful with that on some rifles! To be fair my sniper is like that, don't seem to get the issue with my aeg's though. I wonder if choice of hop rubber has an affect ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted January 8, 2020 Supporters Share Posted January 8, 2020 15 hours ago, Jaylordofwaargh said: I do have to dump near a full (hi-cap) mag through it to take the edge of a battery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveocee Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 3 hours ago, Nick G said: To be fair my sniper is like that, don't seem to get the issue with my aeg's though. I wonder if choice of hop rubber has an affect ? If it seals around the BB then not a lot but if the seal isn't great and applying a bit of hop makes it seal then you'd expect this. Fairly common thing on VSR's and also a wonderfully underhand way to try and get a hot gun through a chrono if you knock the hop off to chrono. Fairly large drop in FPS by doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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