Zac12345 Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Hi I'm new to airsoft and have recently got them Specna Arms h09 knowing I'd have to change the spring but I thought it would be a good chance to learn something. But as I've come to detach the front rail it wont slide off as it is front wired and the front handguard doesn't pop off like I've seen in other front wired M4s. I can see theses silver bits where it looks like the wires attach but I'm not sure what to do and I don't want to break anything. Please help if you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BibbsOnTour Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Hi new to airsoft, I'm Bibbs Have a look at this video, might be handy... Can learn a bit of Italian at the same time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zac12345 Posted May 31, 2019 Author Share Posted May 31, 2019 thanks for the vid it clearly shows how I can change the spring but the problem is my front rail wont slide of like his did as mine is front wired but this is still very helpful and I will use this when I manage to slide this rail off. Thanks mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostly Retired Moderators L3wisD Posted May 31, 2019 Mostly Retired Moderators Share Posted May 31, 2019 Hi Zac! Apologies, I did mean to reply to your PM, just been manic at work I'm afraid. In my naiveity, I haven't come across this before as all my guns have been rear wired. @ImTriggerHappy or perhaps @Samuraican give you some better advice. If it were me, I'd probably cut the wires and redo them afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick G Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Front wired usually have mini spade connectors in the wires so you can remove the battery connector then pull the wires through into the reciever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted May 31, 2019 Supporters Share Posted May 31, 2019 2 hours ago, L3wisD said: cut the wires and redo them afterwards With a Deans (or XT60/30) connector. You'll thank us later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDcase Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Follow the wires to see if there is a connector you can unplug. They must have got it off to paint it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Samurai Posted May 31, 2019 Supporters Share Posted May 31, 2019 Oh god, those fingernails in the video. 🤮 Unscrew the big screw near the magwell on the foregrip and you must be able to wriggle and slide off the foregrip forward. The wires as @Nick G said, must have spade or similar connectors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zac12345 Posted June 1, 2019 Author Share Posted June 1, 2019 thanks everyone for the help, I'll give this a crack today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zac12345 Posted June 1, 2019 Author Share Posted June 1, 2019 so I've been at this for a bit now. I can see the spade connecters but as you can see they're hard to get to and disconnect. I tried with tweezers but it looks like I'm only damaging the insulation. I may continue to try to pull the front rail even harder but I'm, worried I'll pull the wires out of the gearbox and not the mini spade connectors. Is there an easier way that I don't know about or should I just keep trying with the tweezers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Samurai Posted June 1, 2019 Supporters Share Posted June 1, 2019 Take the foregrip off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zac12345 Posted June 1, 2019 Author Share Posted June 1, 2019 I've taken the foregrip off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Samurai Posted June 1, 2019 Supporters Share Posted June 1, 2019 On the photos you still have it on. Should be like this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick G Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 I wonder if the large hex head bolt just behind the foregrip is clamping the front rail on, try removing it and see if the rail frees up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Samurai Posted June 1, 2019 Supporters Share Posted June 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, Nick G said: I wonder if the large hex head bolt just behind the foregrip is clamping the front rail on, try removing it and see if the rail frees up Yes, that's holding it in place. I was referring to that above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zac12345 Posted June 2, 2019 Author Share Posted June 2, 2019 the hex bolt wont budge but so I don't think that's what is stopping me from removing the front rail, I think it's the wires because I can pull it off until I run out of wire length and I cant take off the front rail because the mini Tamiya connecter comes out one of the holes in the front rail and wont fit back through. I think I'm supposed to disconnect the spade connectors but I cant reach them through the gaps and have tried both pulling the front rail from the receiver to disconnect them by force and also tweezers. I'm going to contact the place I bought it from to see if they can tell me how they did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philby21 Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 There's definitely something weird here, if the whole front end comes off in one piece then how did someone connect those spade connectors in the first place? On the M4s I've got the lower rail is removable but it's only held on by a spring loaded ring, this is obviously different. There must be a simple solution, it may just be that someone has really tightened that bolt on and it's going to take a bit of brute force to remove it, then suddenly everything opens up and you can unplug the connectors? Calling the place you bought it from is definitely a good idea though, you'll have to let us know what they say as I suspect a couple of us are curious now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Samurai Posted June 2, 2019 Supporters Share Posted June 2, 2019 The big Allen head bolt holds the foregrip in place. And friction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lasbrisas17 Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 You should call the place you bought it from to ask how to take it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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