GeneralKimbo Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 Who actually thinks theres anything wrong with two tone airsoft guns?
Greg147 Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 Two tone guns make it easier for people to get into the sport, so I don't think there's anything wrong with them. I don't look down on someone for turning up and using one, and I don't always assume they're a new guy*. That said, I never went and got one myself on the grounds that they're far too colorful for me. I got UKARA registered to buy a black one as soon as possible, but for people who don't skirmish often, or don't use the same site enough times to get a membership, two tone guns seem like an easy way for them to have their own kit. *with the possible exception of orange L96s... Mos and oddjob 2
Supporters Sitting Duck Posted April 1, 2016 Supporters Posted April 1, 2016 Nothing wrong with them They are designed to serve a purpose and allow adults without defense to test the airsoft water Admit some colours are a little too vivid than others but without 2-tones I think less people would have got into it How many - don't know, but think less would of stumbled across it and took up peew peew to skirmish etc.... More people means more sites, market grows, bigger choice, better pricing etc...... To me, taking a bit of plinking a bit further got me into it and even though the JBBG was a bit pants - it was still good to plink around with Then a clear ICS - wow this is much better - ukara obtained...... My wallet has never looked so bare ever since.....
Fumps Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 I dont care if someone has a two tone or not. If they are out of the house doing it they have my support.
James1989 Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 Its all down to personal prefference what you buy but I havent and I have never heard anyone talk down to someone because of the colour of thier gun.
Baz JJ Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 Does that mean you do ? why ? Who actually thinks theres anything wrong with two tone airsoft guns?
Guest PT247 Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 I don't have an issue with 2tone guns.... I have an issue with junk plastic crap that some retailers sell with the pretence that they are skirmishable!
Giliador Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 I thing the whole UKARA and two tone could be implemented slightly better, law is poorly written and instead of putting permanent change to gun put a colorful tag on gun with a marking and serial number thath you need to keep for 3 games, after 3rd game it can be removed, and if you do it early you break the law and you can't apply for UKARA for 1 year, easier for players and for shops, they wouldn't have to paint guns. Greg147, on 01 Apr 2016 - 06:40 AM, said: Two tone guns make it easier for people to get into the sport What? So if you didn't have to go through two tone and UKARA it would be harder for people to get in the sport? Thath makes no sense
Sacarathe Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 I thing the whole UKARA and two tone could be implemented slightly better, law is poorly written and instead of putting permanent change to gun put a colorful tag on gun with a marking and serial number thath you need to keep for 3 games, after 3rd game it can be removed, and if you do it early you break the law and you can't apply for UKARA for 1 year, easier for players and for shops, they wouldn't have to paint guns. What? So if you didn't have to go through two tone and UKARA it would be harder for people to get in the sport? Thath makes no sense So, a license?
Giliador Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 Well just thin colorful tape or metal wire wrapped in plastic around gun thath you can take off after 3rd game, something like they have at the back of trucks so they know no one have opened the trailer, problem is to stop people cutting them early but same can be said about two tone it can be painted black or components replaced, I noticed 1 shop is doing veneer wrapping
Giliador Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 Yes the point is for the gun not to look real I think tape would achieve thath and it's linked to VCRA but if you compare crime involving RIF and the one with knife, yet you can easily buy knife when 18. You need to renew UKARA every year, I was playing nice with my RIF for one year but then I might decide to rob a bank? Well no need to renew, I already have RIF for the bank job
Guest PT247 Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 Owning a RIF is not an issue, selling one to someone under 18 or without a defence is. A parent can currently buy an orange aeg for their under 18 kid to play with, so can joe blog for him to plink with. If you put a wire lock anti tamper on a rif and allow anyone to buy it, how does that stop idiots buying it?
WoodfordWolf Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 So who's robbing banks? Could do with the extra cash for more guns haha. Two tone gets you into the sport it's good plus we can spot them quicker
Head Moderator Jedi_Master Posted April 1, 2016 Head Moderator Posted April 1, 2016 I thing the whole UKARA and two tone could be implemented slightly better, law is poorly written and instead of putting permanent change to gun put a colorful tag on gun with a marking and serial number thath you need to keep for 3 games, after 3rd game it can be removed, and if you do it early you break the law and you can't apply for UKARA for 1 year, easier for players and for shops, they wouldn't have to paint guns. What? So if you didn't have to go through two tone and UKARA it would be harder for people to get in the sport? Thath makes no sense Why not have an airsoft license, similar to a driving one. All held on a national database, and the license can be revoked. Must be over 18 to hold one, and no purchase of RIF allowed without it. Players will have to sit a theory test on VCRA, UKARA, safe handling, correct terminology, battery storage, etc. And a practical exam to demonstate proper use of eye-pro, magazine and battery changes, safety procedure before entering the Safe Zone, etc. Their Airsoft license can be checked at sites to make sure the player is legal to carry a RIF. And a provisional license for under 18s, to make sure they are responsible enough to be allowed to use a two-tone gun. Could also introduce gun registration numbers. Every gun has a unique index number, held on a national database, and when you sell a gun you complete the details of old owner and new owner and send them off to the Airsoft Licensing Agency (could be located in Swansea for example). This would also mean stolen or lost guns could be traced back to the owner. Note: Yes, it is April 1st. And this is not a serious post.
Giliador Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 Why not have an airsoft license, similar to a driving one. All held on a national database, and the license can be revoked. Must be over 18 to hold one, and no purchase of RIF allowed without it. Players will have to sit a theory test on VCRA, UKARA, safe handling, correct terminology, battery storage, etc. And a practical exam to demonstate proper use of eye-pro, magazine and battery changes, safety procedure before entering the Safe Zone, etc. Their Airsoft license can be checked at sites to make sure the player is legal to carry a RIF. And a provisional license for under 18s, to make sure they are responsible enough to be allowed to use a two-tone gun. Could also introduce gun registration numbers. Every gun has a unique index number, held on a national database, and when you sell a gun you complete the details of old owner and new owner and send them off to the Airsoft Licensing Agency (could be located in Swansea for example). This would also mean stolen or lost guns could be traced back to the owner. Note: Yes, it is April 1st. And this is not a serious post. Already looking forward to do Hazard perception exam on Airsoft
Sacarathe Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 Note: Yes, it is April 1st. And this is not a serious post. Already looking forward to do Hazard perception exam on Airsoft Given my current experience: why ear plugs are important. Lozart 1
GeneralKimbo Posted April 1, 2016 Author Posted April 1, 2016 Does that mean you do ? why ? Yeah I own a two tone as no one in my family or myself has UKARA so whenever I get gifted guns for Christmas and birthdays they are two tone. Usually black and a mild green. I have had the odd garden shooter from JBBG in the past but the latest gun I was gifted was a CM16 from G&G so it is fairly capable I holding up in a skirmish. So I was just wondering if there looked down upon or if people won't play with you as it ruins there emersion or something. I was just wondering is all.
Greg147 Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 What? So if you didn't have to go through two tone and UKARA it would be harder for people to get in the sport? Thath makes no sense No two tone guns = Having to rent and go to the same site three times before you can buy your gun, spending a total of around £75 on a gun that isn't yours. I've got first hand experience of previously very eager people who have looked at that and thought 'nah, sod it, it's probably not worth it after all'. Two Tone guns = Having the option to buy a nice starter gun and get cracking straight away. Comes with a sense of ownership, and the good feeling that comes from knowing you own your own kit, and you've started your own armory. Techies get to start exploring with tinkering on their kit, gun-nuts get to start looking at accessories to stick on it. Additionally, the purchase will make someone more likely to continue the sport if they have a bad couple of first game days, as they've already made the investment. Make sense?
Baz JJ Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 No dont have anything against TT in a skirmish. The BBs hurt just as much. I don't really see much immersion in skirmishes. Yeah I own a two tone as no one in my family or myself has UKARA so whenever I get gifted guns for Christmas and birthdays they are two tone. Usually black and a mild green. I have had the odd garden shooter from JBBG in the past but the latest gun I was gifted was a CM16 from G&G so it is fairly capable I holding up in a skirmish. So I was just wondering if there looked down upon or if people won't play with you as it ruins there emersion or something. I was just wondering is all.
Verz Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 To be honest, I think some two tones look pretty cool. However, I do have a question. What's stopping someone getting a two tone and respraying the coloured parts to a nice tan colour? Is that frowned upon at all? For example...
Greg147 Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 Nothing to stop them once they're registered for UKARA...but before that, it's classed as manufacturing a RIF, and is rather illegal EDIT: I forget the exact wording, but the non-black color needs to be particularly bright, otherwise it's not classed as two toned. Verz 1
Head Moderator Jedi_Master Posted April 1, 2016 Head Moderator Posted April 1, 2016 What's stopping someone getting a two tone and respraying the coloured parts to a nice tan colour? Is that frowned upon at all? Yes, tan is guns look naff . Would rather have a bright yellow or an orange one anyday.
Sacarathe Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 To be honest, I think some two tones look pretty cool. However, I do have a question. What's stopping someone getting a two tone and respraying the coloured parts to a nice tan colour? Is that frowned upon at all? For example... In the eyes of the law, that gun is not two-tone. Prescribed colours and transparent only.
Verz Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 Yes, tan is guns look naff . Would rather have a bright yellow or an orange one anyday. I guess it's a matter of our personal likes. I think they look pretty neat. In the eyes of the law, that gun is not two-tone. Prescribed colours and transparent only. Thank you for the clarification. I appreciate this! o7 Sorry for the hi-jacking of the thread.
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