kentsg Posted April 8, 2013 Posted April 8, 2013 Does anyone else think ukara registration should include a crb check? Some of the older guys at airsoft are a bit creepy,
Supporters TPI Posted April 8, 2013 Supporters Posted April 8, 2013 Just because someone comes across Creepy to you dosen't mean they are to everyone else, It isn't a Hobby just for younger people.
Suzuki Yamamoto Posted April 8, 2013 Posted April 8, 2013 Including a CRB check in the UKARA process would add at least an additional six weeks to the application process and that's if it's processed quickly. Some can take up to six months!
adam bussey Posted April 8, 2013 Posted April 8, 2013 it would be a waste of time. because ukara is not the be all and end all when it comes to the law.
Supporters M_P Posted April 8, 2013 Supporters Posted April 8, 2013 I dont think it should be required with UKARA, it'd be a waste of time. However for staff, marshalls etc- then yes maybe it is a good idea?
G-Force Posted April 8, 2013 Posted April 8, 2013 For staff to legally run games with children/teens unaccompanied by their parents they have to be CRB checked. That's why a lot of sites won't allow under 18's among various other reasons. It's not needed for players. If you were to apply a rule like that it just wouldn't be practical or in anyway necessary. Imagine having to get CRB checked for every sport or hobby you do. Irritating thing with CRB checks is that it only covers one job. For example, if I had a CRB check done as a teacher, I would have to get another one done for being a marshal. I may be wrong, but that's what I've been told by marshals and site owners who already had been CRB checked.
Hibernator Posted April 8, 2013 Posted April 8, 2013 I can understand it for site organisers/staff, but bit of a ridiculous idea for players! If you're going to CRB check everyone who plays airsoft, then you'd need to CRB check everyone with a hobby that appeals to people of different ages! There goes Sunday league football. Better not mention it anyway - don't you have to pay for a CRB check? That's an awesome revenue stream for the govt. if all of a sudden millions of hobbyists are have to stump up cash! Might give them ideas!!!!
Tariq Posted April 8, 2013 Posted April 8, 2013 Yeah it's a couple of hundred quid for a CRB. The sport would probably be ruined if we had to fork out hundreds of pounds just to be able to buy RIFS. TBH I never even had a CRB when i was a referee. To the question in hand, UKARA is a defence against purchasing a RIFS. Why do we have to go get a certificate that we don't touch up kiddies in our spare time, to be able to purchase these
kentsg Posted April 8, 2013 Author Posted April 8, 2013 yeah I was kind of mainly thinking about marshall's and orgnaisers really. At a sight in kent I used all staff were older men, and were getting quite close to younger guys, just makes you think. A peado would know airsoft is popular among teenage boys, so perfect unchecked meeting ground!!!!!!! I agree defo no crb check to purchase
AF-UK Founding Member Deva Posted April 8, 2013 AF-UK Founding Member Posted April 8, 2013 Is it somewhere out in the sticks? Sounds like walking in to a small village pub in the middle of no where to walk out 30 seconds later. Doesn't mean they're creepy.
G-Force Posted April 8, 2013 Posted April 8, 2013 it doesn't but it wasn't just me that felt they were creepy, and not all older guys are my dad's not!!!! You weren't one of them ??? Can't say I've ever really heard any concern about peados in regards to airsoft. I don't think it's an issue.
Supporters M_P Posted April 8, 2013 Supporters Posted April 8, 2013 There's something about someone who was staff at the stan or something but that's all I've heard about anything like that in airsoft.
kentsg Posted April 8, 2013 Author Posted April 8, 2013 It has been suggested; http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2038875/Iranian-Embassy-SAS-hero-John-McAleese-investigated-alleged-child-porn-offences.html Obviously this has already been discussed on other forums! http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/151627-the-safeguarding-of-children-and-vulnerable-persons-act/
AF-UK Founding Member Deva Posted April 8, 2013 AF-UK Founding Member Posted April 8, 2013 I think there has been a misunderstanding.. lets just leave it at that. Onwards..
Supporters Ian_Gere Posted April 9, 2013 Supporters Posted April 9, 2013 I missed the party I take it? I must say that I'm confused as to what John McAleese being accused of downloading kiddie porn has to do with airsofters who may or may not be involved in the sport with the intention of getting close to youngsters for the purpose of illegally having sex with them. I mean, I know it's the fashionable thing to throw all critical thinking to the wind when discussing anything even remotely connected to paedophilia and to conflate a look or gesture which somebody feels uncomfortable about with bumsecks, but I'm sorry people, for the life of me I just cannae dae it, Cap'n! Ya cannae break the laws o' physics, Cap'n!
kentsg Posted April 9, 2013 Author Posted April 9, 2013 Ian , mcalees was accused of child sex offences but he worked unchecked as a airsoft instructor allowing at fone game sites unchecked unsupervised contact with people under 18. As for not letting people feel uncomfortable about someone's suggestive remarks, looks, actions, contact think thats how the whole jimmy saville thing carried on for so long... Why do some people get annoyed on here for simply asking that if airsoft saville and staff etc that have contact with under 18's should be crb checked!!?? I cant understand the problem, Meant to be airsoft marshalls not airsoft saville cant predictive text! Airsoft saville is a worrying idea but maybe a good idea for a fugitive style game
AF-UK Founding Member Deva Posted April 9, 2013 AF-UK Founding Member Posted April 9, 2013 My opinion - I suggest you don't take what the Daily Mail writes too genuinely. Find a better source.
alwaysontheoffensive Posted April 9, 2013 Posted April 9, 2013 and if they are a paedophile, then we can all just shoot them
Supporters jcheeseright Posted April 9, 2013 Supporters Posted April 9, 2013 I for one think that the whole CRB check thing would be disastrous, I love touching kids and it would totally get in the way of that!
kentsg Posted April 9, 2013 Author Posted April 9, 2013 I for one think that the whole CRB check thing would be disastrous, I love touching kids and it would totally get in the way of that! Is this even funny? That's exactly how Jimmy Saville got away with it "hiding" it in plain site by making jokes etc. Abusing children is not funny, you are sick
Supporters M_P Posted April 9, 2013 Supporters Posted April 9, 2013 If you're so paranoid about everyone, I'd suggest the internet also isn't the best place for you, never mind a public forum.
alwaysontheoffensive Posted April 9, 2013 Posted April 9, 2013 If you're so paranoid about everyone, I'd suggest the internet also isn't the best place for you, never mind a public forum. second that.
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