Cipher-032
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1 hour ago, peeved87 said:
Interesting on the fill valves. What is the love of propane due to? Cost and performance? Also where does it scale in power
On a side note. Brass nub in.... Beauty; flamingo 50
Looks good on first test. I'm sure it will be too high to use on joules, but it was floating 4s no problem
Need extensive distance testing and in game testing
If your using the Flamingo in your stock hop up chamber, your using the bare minimum of the hop patch in the bucking. Have the barrel and hop assembly out and press on the lever and look at the patch and you'll see what I mean. Yeah it will lift ammo, but not to the buckings full potential.
Ive tried it in the Laylax hop unit, And still have contact issues. In the laylax unit its stupidly tight, and wont put pressure on the arm. Back to Mod tan and SixG. ill use the flamingo's in my Pistols.
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1 hour ago, peeved87 said:
Fingers crossed mine come through no issue
Just received my super nub today. Pretty little thing. Can't wait for the armorer wrench so I can swap it all out
I did the same, striped it down, and found the barrel nut worked its way loose from vibrations... -
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If you are already 100% happy with your MWS's accuracy, then no need to change. Just stick to what you have.
The Mod tan and SixG nub has cemented itself as the "Go to" set up. It just works. How ever Im a mechanic by trade. And I enjoy tinkering and trying stuff so thats why ive forked out the extra to get the right hop unit to make the Flamingo work. Any bet the Laylax unit will make the normal set up even better too.
From the initial get go of the Flamingo bucking in my HK45, it was consistent and accurate. Some thing the TNT TR buckings really are not. Mainly due to the small locating tab allowing it to rotate in the hop unit.
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Remember you can remove the fill valves from the brass fitting that holds the tube! No risk that way!
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11 minutes ago, Wo1f said:
Well that’s disappointing. If it isn’t w vast improvement over the modify tan which is just a conventional hop up mound then they hype doesn’t match the results.
Ive bit the bullet and ordered a hop unit. Obviously in time will see how it performs, once broken in etc.
If not I wasted a good chunk of £30 for them all. But if you dont try, you dont know. But I am looking forward to using the SRS buckings.
Its funny cause my TM MP7 GBB uses a similar design as the Laylax unit to push on the bucking centrally. Probably would work well in that unit.
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Update on Flamingo buckings:
Needs a the Laylax hop unit to work really. The stock Marui unit just pushes down on the first part of the contact patch, and not the whole area, regardless of nub.
How ever, What I can tell you these do fit the stock Marui barrels. I've fit one to my HK45 with a H plate, and it shoots just as good as the mod tan currently. Ill range test it at the field Sunday -
Stay tuned!
- itsme, DopeYourScope and Wo1f
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On 16/06/2019 at 21:17, itsme said:
i use green devils and did have any problems so far.
wasn't a problem with the fill valve in there really. measured it down and cut it with a pipe cutter, about 5 minutes per magazine, easy mod.
i don't even have a shop in belgium selling non bio bb's.
Annoyingly my boss has now switched my Saturdays. Doesnt mater though.
Ill have a look into them. If not its a case of running the Mk23 as a primary
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1 hour ago, itsme said:
2 down, 2 to go. No leaks so far.
Remember you can remove the fill valve from that brass fitting to make life easier.
Does any one know if the MWS is happy using Bio bb's? Theres a site near me thats running a day game for tenner, but runs bio only. And my AEG's mosfet is dead. All I have is GBBR's and I'd want to run the MWS if I can. -
All these MWS newbies are making me so happy!
@itsme you should hear gas fizz out the fill valve, and the spit once full. Its quite an easy difference to spot.
Gas with silicone is always a plus as it helps keep the O rings lubed up a bit better. And saves having to strip the mags and lubing the gaskets and knocker valves -
delete pls, accidental repost
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1 minute ago, LVOA-D said:
@Cipher-032 Nice job man! Have fun getting the springs back in 🤣. God I hate putting the springs back in!
Tell me about it!
Done this job once before but with only flap blade screw drivers. I was rushing and got quickly frustrated. First mag I did I kept calm and composed and got it all done in one hit! -
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Out of interest, has any one had it where their recoil spring has become stuck inside the buffer tube? No amount of pulling (carefully not the stretch to much) nor twisting will break it free. Im a bit baffled.
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3 hours ago, Jacket said:
Has anyone had trouble threading aftermarket barrel nuts into the mws receiver? I had a madbull Viking rail and could only get it threaded in about 1/4 of the way. Didn’t want to start retreading things so sent in back and put my normal front end back on
LUBRICATE the threads! Bit of silicone grease will help. Don’t cross thread and don’t force it on. Make sure your using the right barrel nut.
my PTS nut was rough to fit first but a smidge of grease every other removal makes it slip on easy.
Could make a sexual joke but I won’t.
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2 hours ago, UKCYukarin said:
Might be the wrong place to ask, but eff it ill ask anyway (seeing as most of you guys use these nubs). These Super SixG nubs, can they work in any other platform other than the MWS? was thinking of replicating the Modify Tan + SixG nub combo in my WE GBBRs.
A lot of hop units are different. So it may or may not work (tighter or looser fit) Had to ask this they day after I put mine back together. Other wise I could of checked on my AEG M4.
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1 minute ago, LVOA-D said:
@Cipher-032 Close one! I'd probably have the same reaction. Mine should be on its way soon hopefully 🤞
Do let us know how it functions. I probably won't be installing mine until I have all the external parts aswell(depending on what arrives first).
Had a test fire. Running stock barrel, Mod Tan bucking and my shimmed hop arm on ASG 0.28's Shoots well, but the bucking is still breaking in. Might need to go back in and tweak the bucking alignment.
My garden is only so long so longer ranges I cant account for. But short range its shooting like a laser. -
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@Davegolf gave many wise words of wisedom
The Mod Tan bucking and the SixG nub are a popular choice. Just ordered mine. Buckings in the gun ready for bedding in. Its a worth while upgrade as the stock nub wont lift more than a .28 if your lucky.
Personally I was using a TNT TR hop, Element H nub and 300mm maple leaf barrel but im fed up of left to right inconstancy.
And how can you not skirmish it?! Its so satisfying! Summer is here and it is perfect for gas gun use! -
So this week has been
1. Shimming the hop arm
2. Cleaning the bb runners? Ramp? For the P mags as they where jamming
3. Testing hop buckings. Tried the stock bucking and barrel with the plastic H nub. Far better than the TNT but that’s at short range.
contacted Six gun smithing and had no response... but upset with that but will try again!
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I tried a different bucking combo last weekend. All I can say is the madbull red with the stock barrel is terrible. Went back to TNT TR and the maple leaf and it was much more consistent. Albeit with a rushed rebuild and not 100% perfectly aligned.
Ive decided to buy a modify tan bucking. And emailed SixG to buy their super nub. I wanna give this popular combo a try.
So what inner barrels are people using with said bucking and nub? Stock, Prommy or other?
Bucking is advertised to be 60-65 degree hardness. Hope it can lift a .28 in the cooler weather currently.
Failing that ill use the Super nub with the TNT and see how that fairs. -
I personally run 6 main mags. And 3 secondary. Seems to do me well enough. 5 might just cut it fine personally but that's down to you.
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EDIT: This thread is dedicated to my very old, abused, probably 4th hand TM MP7 GBBR. You’ll find some good sources of fixes below.
A month or so ago I bought a slightly used, and abused second hand TM MP7 GBB with 5 mags for a decent price. Came with a few extra's. Which is great!
Needless to say this gun has been a labour of love to get working right. Leaking mags, broken parts of the chassis. Much swearing and threatening to throw it off a cliff. But I kept at it.
So, After every thing is finalised. It has a Mod Tan bucking, and the Nineball gas routes fitted. It also came with a Guns Modify nozzle. Fill a mag with green gas (Nuprol 2.0) and im getting 360FPS. Pop a stock gas route back in and it starts creeping to 370. I had the thing firing at 380FPS at one point!
So I buy some Nuprol 1.0, and it fires bang on 350. Only downside is I had to trim a coil off the buffer spring (The spring on the stock plate) for the bolt to travel back far enough to engage bolt lock reliably.
So if I find and fit a stock nozzle, and return it back to stock it might fire 350 on Nuprol 2. What FPS readings are you getting?
It be nice to run the gun safely on Nuprol 2 for the crisper function. But I have no idea if the FG discs will fit, and no known NPAS's are available. (That I can find). I have no clue why this thing fires so hot! (For a TM any way)
I will mention, I did use it on a warm afternoon, on Nuprol 1, with the little tweaks, and it worked well! But god the recoil spring is sill weak to reset the auto sear. Hate having dead trigger after bolt release!