Adolf Hamster

righto, dunno where he's at but you never can tell with forums folk can be on at all sorts of hours.

fair enough, i thought when you used the term "conveniently deleted" you were inferring a cover up or something. btw who do you mean when you say Ed? if you're meaning avenger then i don't know his IRL name.

i can't say i'm sold on the idea of the moderation team acting as part of a conspiracy, they tend to be pretty impartial here. you're conveniently forgetting to mention the bit where me and @Skara offered you a fair trial. i mean as fair as any other witch trial was having a nice relaxing bath, and whilst my z5 might have been waterproof out of the box i ain't so confident it's waterproof now.....

are you meaning perhaps in the ad? because i ain't seeing what you're referring to in this thread. looks like the comments have been moderated and the discussion directed here, without seeing them i can't tell if you have a point or not.

you mean this convo? lets run through it shall we: original callout, just mentioning the price is expensive for what it is, which isn't unknown for this particular seller who often will link to websites in his own ads that are selling the same gun for cheaper than his price. bit of side banter playing devils advocate and defending the pricing (part of the open debate this thread is meant to have) both countering the points raised by albiscuit, again open debate and presented in a non-offensive manner. and this is the one i'm guessing you're meaning, where it is theorised (but not explicitly stated) that the gun was bought cheaper than it's being sold for, whilst also stating that there's no rule against this practice. granted there's an expression of distaste for the practice of acting as a trader via the forums, which is an opinion that can be argued to be entirely reasonable, although in this case stated with the help of memes in the banter-laden fashion that is common to this thread. i seem to be missing the bit where the toxic bullying happened?

i've tried those, problem is the gun just tends to pull the whole rig into an awkward angle which is just as annoying. neckscarf or even better a jacket with a hood are good for preventing slings sawing your head off.

yeah, we've had to add a customs branch since brexit. and if they do (outside of people just posting for a laugh) it tends to get pounced on pretty quick, eg:

This thread is certainly an unusual setup, but its purpose is to highlight to prospective buyers what acceptable pricing for secondhand gear should be so they dont unwittingly get ripped off. It also shows sellers the issues that might lead to them not getting much demand for the items they're selling be it price, poor description, bad images etc. Sometimes folk just dont realise how an ad appears to a prospective buyer. It works both ways though, if someone drops an ad in here that's actually fair then that point will be raised too. For example the debate about avenger's fal has multiple perspectives going on. Of course it is steeped in banter, but nothing worse than you're going to encounter at your local site. But if someone is willing to take on criticism then it's a helpful environment, if they arent then it's open season for a bit of entertainment.

mate i wouldn't go admitting that in public

A man of taste and refinement. I respect that

hmmmm, that's a spicy gat that's for sure. is that what i think it is velcro'd onto the stock 😛

That second picture with the folding stock.....

^and all is right with the world

For a reasonable build theyre not that bad, i mean even a mighty cyma ak midcap will struggle beyond 50rps Come to think of it i have built some true wanker guns in my time

Currently trying to remember what we managed to get out of me mates hpa'd one but 40 rps isnt far off where the mags start having issues keeping up iirc.

I wouldnt buy it at all, that looks like a stripped piston waiting to happen

Should really start teching professionally if thats the kind of money folk are dropping on gats to fire .25's at 1j

Yesss come to the dark side Our masks and respirators are infinitely cooler for a start

yeah that does make figuring things out a lot easier.

thing is it's the buyers perspective. it's what people see when they look at that ad. for example i'll walk you through my thought process as i look at that ad: it's an evo, a gun that is known to be a pretty high standard out of the box and in a lot of cases people who attempt to "upgrade" the base tend to end up making it a lot worse. so the first question is what bits are in it? are they better than standard? well i don't know because it doesnt say in the ad. the next question is have the parts been assembled correctly? well that comes down to the skill of the tech, as there's no big name drop of a professional tech (eg if you'd paid someone like negative airsoft or the like to do the work) then the assumption is that you've done the work yourself. so how can i assess your personal competence as a tech? well i haven't got much to go on as i don't know you personally or your reputation. so the only thing i can really go on is the ad itself. of course as i mentioned, if the effort hasn't been put into the ad then it begs the question has the effort been put into the gun? and with a lack of information it's just human nature to assume the worst. this isn't meant to be insulting btw, this is meant to be constructive criticism, to point out where people who might otherwise be very interested in buying might change their minds and decide that maybe grabbing a brand new gun that comes with a warranty and they know will perform to a given standard is the safer option.

Its easier to write the details out and send them to every interested person who messages you than to write them out once in the ad? Cant say i'm seeing the logic. As for listing in different places, well if you cant be bothered tailoring the ad to a particular site that isnt going instill confidence in a prospective buyer that you didnt take the same apathy towards fitting the upgrades.

That is a fair point, maybe put this down as a lower mid range dream? So he wants folk to contemplate skipping the known high performing quantity that is a standard evo for one with upgrades that may or may not have actually improved the gun without listing what said upgrades are?

does come with 3 mags, and looks to be in pretty nice condition maybe mitigating factors?

For really tiny stuff its good, i use the drill and dremel combo for cutting bolts