Rogerborg

Accidents (actual accidents, not Arec Barwdrin "accidents") do happen though. I've boltied someone in the bare arm at about 5m when they pointed from behind a building just as I pulled the trigger. Soooo much "Sorry, mate, my bad, mate". Fortunately it doesn't happen often, and I reckon UK energy levels are actually about right.

Of course, the real unforgivable offence is posting Reddit clickbait here. Man, woman, I don't see gender, I just see an HPA wanker and a burger-roid-raging plonker who seems incapable of shouting the word "hit!". I don't know about you chaps / lady-chaps, but at the sites where I play, the briefing tends to make a point that you'll stop getting shot if and when you acknowledge the hit.

"Well, I've never seen her shitting in my bed." ~ Amber Heard's entourage.

I guess it depends what the concern is. If it's reality then we should be measuring energy with as few variables as possible. And testing what people are actually using in the field, not at the chrono station. Anything else is just one form of theatre or another.

That... might have been too obvious. We were on about about pendulums or impact sensors to try and measure the energy directly. Although trying to put rounds through its sensor area at 30m might flaccidate some fantasies about "laser" accuracy.

And bolties. With folk now slinging 0.5g of "plastic" around this is becoming less academic, although ultimately we can point at the UK legal definition which is only concerned with muzzle energy. We had a pondering session a while back about how you'd measure energy at 20m+, and never really came up with a workable real-world solution.

I won't say that I watch Ave BOLTRs and Project Farm religiously, but it's not far off.

This time. See, here's the thing. When you drop in and drip feed a narrative like this, it can look like you're making it up as you go along, or deliberately withholding information just in order to sell your side of it. I'm not saying that you are. I'm saying what it looks like. Either way, it's way too much drama over a cheap part and a common failure. The only thing I've learned here is to really avoid WE GBBRs.

Agreed, the Edge 1 I bought last year has been fine, and the Gate Aster in the Edge 2 represents pretty decent value for money. There's not a lot in there that screams to be swapped out. I'd be interested to see if you get one with a flat hop and nub. Either way, the Maple Leaf macaron and Omega nub combo is the only thing I'd do out of the box. If you're gagging to spend money, a ZCI or AOLS barrel probably won't be any worse than the original.

Well, it's certainly possible, but I very much doubt that Some Other Airsofters have done any sort of high speed laminar airflow photography to find out, or even controlled testing in any meaningful sense. Most airsoft teching seems to be myth, magical thinking, and "works for me". Bear in mind that Crazy Jet and Maxx are in the business of selling products, not doing science.

Selling past the close, as they say. On balance, I'm minded to believe the retailer and @Spartan09. It's just... a remarkable coincident that three new chums all decided to show up and sing their praises at the same time.

Airsofter buys another £500 toy to hang on the wall with the rest of them: "Cool, mate, lovely purchase." Airsofter spends a few extra £££ a day on BBs: "Durr, nobody needs to shoot 0.4g from an AEG, you plonker."

Although three new accounts registering just to nosh off the business is equally as suspicious. 🙄

Never, ever let her find the receipts.

Surprisingly, yes. I've tried many lotions and potions over the years for biking and then airsoft, and they're the least useless I've come across. They should be, given the price. It's worth keeping an eye open for bulk buys that will last you years rather than buying them at the extortionate sums being asked for a couple of them.

No problem, we often get folk signing up just to air a grievance, and it almost always turns out that there's another, and very different, side to the story. (I mean, except when it concerns Stephen Glennie)

It would help if you were specific about who you're talking about. https://onlyairsoft.com/ ? https://combatairsoft.co.uk/ ? Someone else?

Ahoy and welcome. I mostly play a walking game now: run and you'll just die tired. Great to hear that you're starting with the safety gear. The M4s is indeed a decent default platform, and you'll have magazine compatibility if you both go that way. There are some perfectly reasonable brands out there with decent features at sub-£200 prices: finding them in stock is more of the problem at the moment. When you do get your own, I'd suggest lithium-polymer (lipo) or lithium-ion (li-ion) batteries. The former are cheaper, the latter are higher capacity. 7.4V (2 cell) is fine for most guns. Deans connectors are better than mini-Tamiya, but both work. The SkyRC S65 is the default recommendation for a decent charger - avoid anything Nuprol branded like the plague. Airsofters can get a dose of Magical Thinking about our own particular toys, but with a clean barrel and hop rubber shooting 1J - 1.1J, most AEGs are going to perform much the same. More price doesn't really get a huge amount of extra performance, it's more about metal bodies, trademarks, and nice-to-have features like recoil or mosfets that can do things like 3-shot bursts or pre-cocking to improve trigger response. You don't need any of that though and even a no-feature gun like a G&G Combat Machine is going to sling BBs downrange just fine. In terms of brands, G&G and CYMA are very low risk. G&G Combat Machines used to be the default starter choice, but they're pricing themselves out of the market now. The cheapest CYMAs have robust internals but very toyish plastic bodies. Specna Arms and Lancer Tactical have had quality control issues but seem to be OK at the moment, although the new Specna Arms FLEX range are too new to be a known quantity. Jing Gong are a decent brand, and the Double Eagle M9XX M4s are getting lots of love. Renting will give you the opportunity to blag a go with other people's RIFs to see (or feel) for yourself the difference between plastic and pot-metal bodies, and to hear a straining motor and badly shimmed gearbox versus something tuned to a T. I'd recommend checking and adjusting the hop on any rental gun as it can be neglected. You should be able to find a helpful player happy to assist if you hang around the chrono / test range. At the end of the day though, if you have some that shoots a BB more or less in the direction that you're pointing it, you can have fun with it. Obligatory:

What sort of numbers are we talking about? Some redundancy there. But that's not a realistic imitation firearm. It's not even an unrealistic imitation firearm. Sounds more like a bunch of loganberries.

That's fine, it's a 3-cell 11.1V lipo. Perfectly reasonable for airsoft use.

I'd hope not. Lithium cells are (nominally) 3.7V each. 2 cell = 7.4V, 3 cell = 11.1V. A 4 cell lipo or li-ion battery would be 14.8V. If you're looking at the number of terminals and wires on the balance port, that'll be cells+1, e.g.:

Oh, that's fair enough, this is a CQB site with a 0.25g limit. You're not going to get much creep from 0.2 to 0.25g, and I'd prefer them chronoing with known 0.2g rather than taking folks' word on what they're using. Of course, that's still pointless if Harry HPA nudges his nob and/or slings 0.4g in there. They should be testing with site BBs during the day as well. That said, credit for even doing an in-game chrono at all.

Yes, that, I use cut-up pieces of heat-shrink. I find it a bit confusing to see even "God tier" techs like Luke at Negative say that a given gun just won't lift 0.3 or 0.32g. I'm pretty sure it will with a little shimming. Sure, it's a bodge, but it's a very simple one, and it's not like physics works differently inside a hop unit than in the real world.

Heavier is denser is harder is less elastic is more impulse is hurtier feels. 1J of dry sponge, or 1J of tungsten? Same energy. There's also the issue of chronoing, and abuse or even the genuine miscomprehension we've seen here occasionally about what "350fps" means. I got a cracker of a bruised fingertip at about 30 feet from an HPA pistol months ago that's still not fully cleared up. I ran and told a grown up, the guy got chronoed, and came in under 350. They use site 0.2g at the morning chrono-theatre, but I suspect just trusted him on the weight when chronoed in-game.

Any idea why they even allow that weight of BB there? There's no reason to use anything heavier than 0.25g in indoor CQB sites, and even that's flexing. Maybe be the change you want to see? I call hits in very-CQB when people even point at gun at me, even if they're shooting dry. They're never going to believe they missed, because their gnu is a laser and they're a Delta Beret Ninja. Arguing the toss just leaves two people grumpy and aggrieved, and they'll be convinced that you didn't call their hit, so they'll be less likely to call yours, right?