AmberYooToob Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 How good is the Jing Gong Thunder Maul straight out of the box? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStew Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Jing gong are fairly hit and miss could be spot on could need work. They are however just m4s so standard version 2 gearbox with lots of parts available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmberYooToob Posted September 23, 2019 Author Share Posted September 23, 2019 11 minutes ago, BigStew said: Jing gong are fairly hit and miss could be spot on could need work. They are however just m4s so standard version 2 gearbox with lots of parts available. According to the site I’m looking at (A2Supplies) it’s 380 FPS which would make it a DMR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DrAlexanderTobacco Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 No, it would make it an illegal RIF under the Policing and Crime Act 2017 E: You will need to find it from a source which supplies it with a UK friendly FPS (375 or lower for .2) - I know I'm splitting hairs but you can't just call something a DMR because it shoots hotter than other guns A "DMR" within Airsoft generally means a RIF which has been mechanically locked to only fire semi-automatic (thus allowing higher FPS), which out-of-the-box Thundermauls definitely aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmberYooToob Posted September 23, 2019 Author Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, DrAlexanderTobacco said: No, it would make it an illegal RIF under the Policing and Crime Act 2017 How is it different to a DMR then, I’m new so I could be mistaken quite easily and unknowingly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DrAlexanderTobacco Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Check my reply, I realised I was a bit abrupt earlier so went back and edited my comment Basically if you proceed with the order I would strongly advise calling the supplier asking if they can test the RIF before shipping it to you, giving you a solid FPS number - if it's above 375, ask them to clip the spring or put another one in giving you a lower FPS, or disable full-auto via mechanical modification. E: Another thing to consider is that whilst under the law 375 (with .2s) is the acceptable high-end for a fully-auto RIF, many sites will only really allow around 350 or so. Your gun might be shooting too hot for the sites you want to attend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Tackle Posted September 23, 2019 Moderators Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, AmberYooToob said: How is it different to a DMR then, I’m new so I could be mistaken quite easily and unknowingly Because it's capable of full auto, due to the high fps it makes it illegal, you could dmr by permanently modifying it to single shot only, but whether sites would then accept it as a dmr is doubtful ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted September 23, 2019 Supporters Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 hours ago, DrAlexanderTobacco said: No, it would make it an illegal RIF under the Policing and Crime Act 2017 Yup. Just to get the [citations] in, it would be an illegal fully automatic lethal barrelled firearm under Section 5 of the Firearms Act 1968. PCA 2017 defined the maximum allowed energy for airsoft guns to not count as firearms, which is 1.3J for automatics, using "any missile" that the State cares to drop in there (not 0.2g plastic BBs). No UK retailer should be selling anything which shoots that hot fully auto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cr0-Magnon Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 There are much better guns around for less. You can get a G&G ARP9 for around £180. These may be a standard M4 internally but it's one that's encased in creaky ABS plastic and capped-off with a disintegrating rubberised stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmberYooToob Posted September 23, 2019 Author Share Posted September 23, 2019 10 minutes ago, Rogerborg said: Yup. Just to get the [citations] in, it would be an illegal fully automatic lethal barrelled firearm under Section 5 of the Firearms Act 1968. PCA 2017 defined the maximum allowed energy for airsoft guns to not count as firearms, which is 1.3J for automatics, using "any missile" that the State cares to drop in there (not 0.2g plastic BBs). No UK retailer should be selling anything which shoots that hot fully auto. So you’re saying report A2Supplies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitmanNo2 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 20 minutes ago, AmberYooToob said: So you’re saying report A2Supplies? I would say give them the benefit of the doubt and contact them to let them know they haven't updated the details of this particular product and that it would be a good idea to check their other products didn't also display such a copy and pasted statement from before the law was changed on FPS rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cr0-Magnon Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, AmberYooToob said: So you’re saying report A2Supplies? Although FPS is usually referred to using 0.20g BB's. I've seen some mention what it shoots at with 0.12g, which in that case would be within legal limits. Besides looks like they're sold out. Personally I would just get on with my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted September 23, 2019 Supporters Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 hours ago, AmberYooToob said: So you’re saying report A2Supplies? I'm saying nothing beyond that they shouldn't be selling it (and you shouldn't be buying it) if it's that hot. But since they don't have any in stock (does anyone?) it's not currently an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cr0-Magnon Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, Rogerborg said: But since they don't have any in stock (does anyone?) it's not currently an issue. Yes! Crawley Surplus have one on their racks, I should imagine they have already downgraded in order to avoid being reported by TS though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Samurai Posted September 23, 2019 Supporters Share Posted September 23, 2019 It's an M4, but I don't think they make it as their newer, full metal M4s. And the old ones are very antique by this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albiscuit Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 On 23/09/2019 at 13:02, AmberYooToob said: So you’re saying report A2Supplies? Who are you? 6ix9ine?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmberYooToob Posted September 24, 2019 Author Share Posted September 24, 2019 24 minutes ago, Albiscuit said: Who are you? 6ix9ine?? You say that like it means something to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albiscuit Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 12 hours ago, AmberYooToob said: You say that like it means something to me It might not mean much to folks on here actually!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitmanNo2 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 He's basically a meme now so if you spend much time online, you'll probably know who he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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