sonofsammo Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 I need a new rail to go with the rest of this build. The current rail twists - entirely my fault, as I have lost some bits from it. I'd like M-lok, I think, but aside from that I'm open to suggestions. Current is around 7" I'm not averse to longer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Druid799 Posted July 29, 2018 Supporters Share Posted July 29, 2018 Recon this would look very nice on it .👍 http://www.taiwangun.com/en/ris-i-ras-i-sir/15-m-lok-free-float-handguard-black-vector-optics?from=listing&campaign-id=19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterG Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Been looking at those, but a slightly shorter one. Is there any advantage on having the screws on the side vs underneath in terms of strength? Will want to put a bipod on the front of mine Cheers G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofsammo Posted July 29, 2018 Author Share Posted July 29, 2018 2 hours ago, Druid799 said: Recon this would look very nice on it .👍 http://www.taiwangun.com/en/ris-i-ras-i-sir/15-m-lok-free-float-handguard-black-vector-optics?from=listing&campaign-id=19 I think you might be right! @Wo1f will this fit straight on, or will I need something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wo1f Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 2 hours ago, sonofsammo said: I think you might be right! @Wo1f will this fit straight on, or will I need something else? i cant guarantee it, but providing you have a pts rail adapter, it should Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 I’m liking this at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Lozart Posted July 30, 2018 Supporters Share Posted July 30, 2018 11 hours ago, sonofsammo said: I think you might be right! @Wo1f will this fit straight on, or will I need something else? 8 hours ago, Wo1f said: i cant guarantee it, but providing you have a pts rail adapter, it should It looks like it comes with all the bits you'll need BUT it does state that it fits "most 223 M4" so the thread might be different. This one is listed as "AEG and GBB" compatible http://www.taiwangun.com/en/ris-i-ras-i-sir/12-5-m-lok-lightweight-handguard-for-ar-15-m4-black-bd?from=also-viewed&campaign-id=8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Druid799 Posted July 30, 2018 Supporters Share Posted July 30, 2018 4 hours ago, rocketdogbert said: I’m liking this at the moment I like it but first thing that jumped to mind is a pistol carbine kit , think it’s the cut out underneath that gave it that impression for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Lozart Posted July 30, 2018 Supporters Share Posted July 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, Druid799 said: I like it but first thing that jumped to mind is a pistol carbine kit , think it’s the cut out underneath that gave it that impression for me There's no cutout, it's just the angle of the picture. I have one on a project build that I really should get around to finishing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Druid799 Posted July 30, 2018 Supporters Share Posted July 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Lozart said: There's no cutout, it's just the angle of the picture. I have one on a project build that I really should get around to finishing! Does look more pronounced in the advert than real life ! 👍 AND yes you should ! 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Lozart Posted July 30, 2018 Supporters Share Posted July 30, 2018 Just now, Druid799 said: Does look more pronounced in the advert than real life ! 👍 It's because of the rail section underneath the fore end. The underside of the main part is a full run of M-LOK. In fact that build now has an M-LOK RVG on it. The only issue with M-LOK right now is availability of accessories. Most of the airsoft manufacturers are still hooked on Keymod like the luddites they are so most of the M-LOK stuff I've bought is "proper" Magpul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Druid799 Posted July 30, 2018 Supporters Share Posted July 30, 2018 9 hours ago, Lozart said: It's because of the rail section underneath the fore end. The underside of the main part is a full run of M-LOK. In fact that build now has an M-LOK RVG on it. The only issue with M-LOK right now is availability of accessories. Most of the airsoft manufacturers are still hooked on Keymod like the luddites they are so most of the M-LOK stuff I've bought is "proper" Magpul. I’m sure I read somewhere that Keymod is going to be binned (could be COMPLETELY wrong but I’ve got it in my head) by all the major manufacturers and M-lok is the way there all going to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcwimbo Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Troy TRX 13" battle rail With squid grips, they make all the difference https://www.fire-support.co.uk/product/madbull-troy-licensed-trx-battlerail-13-inch-w-3-bonus-quickattach-rail-sections Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Lozart Posted July 31, 2018 Supporters Share Posted July 31, 2018 14 hours ago, Druid799 said: I’m sure I read somewhere that Keymod is going to be binned (could be COMPLETELY wrong but I’ve got it in my head) by all the major manufacturers and M-lok is the way there all going to go Not sure about completely but in the various tests that have been done of late M-Lok is certainly coming out on top. If the US military adopt it then I could see keymod ramping down, but for now there's a lot of it out in the civilian market. @CKinnerley knows more than I on the subject but this is the published results of the NSW CRANE testing https://ndiastorage.blob.core.usgovcloudapi.net/ndia/2017/armament/McGee19427.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Druid799 Posted July 31, 2018 Supporters Share Posted July 31, 2018 Cheers for that bud , I had it in my mind that I’d read it somewhere and it was doing my swede in ! 😫 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Lozart Posted July 31, 2018 Supporters Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Druid799 said: Cheers for that bud , I had it in my mind that I’d read it somewhere and it was doing my swede in ! 😫 Same thing here published on Soldier Systems http://soldiersystems.net/2017/05/05/details-on-the-ussocom-sponsored-keymod-vs-m-lok-test-conducted-at-nswc-crane/ interesting to read the comments and just how many keymod fanbois there are would suggest it won't go away any time soon. That and "but why didn't you use Geiselle and BCM?!?!?!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Druid799 Posted July 31, 2018 Supporters Share Posted July 31, 2018 Soldiersystems ! That’s where I read something ! 👍 you know what it’s like ‘your drifting’ around the web you read or see somthing and then can’t for the life of you remember where you saw it ! 🤦♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters TheFull9 Posted July 31, 2018 Supporters Share Posted July 31, 2018 I've mentioned it before, but there was a format war like HD-DVD and Blu-Ray; turned out M-LOK is cheaper to machine in terms of the handguards and as those tests show, more resilient where it matters. KeyMod is still fine for most folks, but it lost the war and everyone is moving to M-LOK which means that going forward you'll see barely any KeyMod forends or accessories by comparison. US SOCOM has very much adopted M-LOK in the form of the Geissele URG-I. Us idiots in the MoD are going HKey (HK KeyMod) but that won't last, especially since it's now very likely the US Army will end up with M-LOK and if that happens that is the true and absolute death knell for any and all competing attachment systems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dentonboy Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 10 hours ago, CKinnerley said: I've mentioned it before, but there was a format war like HD-DVD and Blu-Ray; turned out M-LOK is cheaper to machine in terms of the handguards and as those tests show, more resilient where it matters. KeyMod is still fine for most folks, but it lost the war and everyone is moving to M-LOK which means that going forward you'll see barely any KeyMod forends or accessories by comparison. US SOCOM has very much adopted M-LOK in the form of the Geissele URG-I. Us idiots in the MoD are going HKey (HK KeyMod) but that won't last, especially since it's now very likely the US Army will end up with M-LOK and if that happens that is the true and absolute death knell for any and all competing attachment systems. I heard that Blu Ray won out as it was the format the porn studios went with... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters TheFull9 Posted August 1, 2018 Supporters Share Posted August 1, 2018 I mean.. maybe that contributed, but based on the reading I've done I highly doubt it given the streaming age we live in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Lozart Posted August 1, 2018 Supporters Share Posted August 1, 2018 11 hours ago, Dentonboy said: I heard that Blu Ray won out as it was the format the porn studios went with... 2 hours ago, CKinnerley said: I mean.. maybe that contributed, but based on the reading I've done I highly doubt it given the streaming age we live in. It's sort of true but had more to do with mainstream studio choices and Sony's decision to fit a BD player into the PS3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-definition_optical_disc_format_war#Deciding_factors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Druid799 Posted August 1, 2018 Supporters Share Posted August 1, 2018 I was also under the impression it was Sony choosing blu-ray that was the biggest nail in the coffin for HD-DVD . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterG Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 I thought so too, at the time they owned Sony Pictures film studio, not sure if they still do. This would have helped push Blu Ray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dentonboy Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 4 hours ago, CKinnerley said: I mean.. maybe that contributed, but based on the reading I've done I highly doubt it given the streaming age we live in. Uh-huh... 'reading' eh?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters TheFull9 Posted August 1, 2018 Supporters Share Posted August 1, 2018 I get through so many books. I've met loads of famous writers/authors too, great people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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