Albiscuit Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Some good points, I suppose it depends on the game type. I tend to play CQB where its straight in and out and no one cares or keeps count. I would like to explore some larger, outdoor tactical Milsim type games so I can say I have done it, but have too much fun running around the mall like a loon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albiscuit Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 6 hours ago, L3wisD said: Well, colour me wrong. I take it back. Still, nice of someone to get a photo of your mum dropping you and your friends off... Big bully Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Readman97 Posted January 10, 2018 Author Share Posted January 10, 2018 Just now, Albiscuit said: Some good points, I suppose it depends on the game type. I tend to play CQB where its straight in and out and no one cares or keeps count. I would like to explore some larger, outdoor tactical Milsim type games so I can say I have done it, but have too much fun running around the mall like a loon I used to play CQB and its great fun, bit one thing i noticed about outdoor games, especially so on large woodland sites, its all about stealth and teamwork, its like going from call of duty to ARMA III, great fun but you have to work for each kill, i actually prefer it if im honest, it gives you the opportunity to make the most of camo and strategic gameplay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters ImTriggerHappy Posted January 10, 2018 Supporters Share Posted January 10, 2018 Nope to be good in CQB takes a lot more skill than in woodland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostly Retired Moderators L3wisD Posted January 10, 2018 Mostly Retired Moderators Share Posted January 10, 2018 Camo at airsoft range is pointless anyway. Even guys in ghillie suits stand out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wo1f Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 I would say CQB is more skilful than woodland. You need much more spacial awareness and good reactions. Depending on the layout, it’s virtually impossible to do well as a single person in CQB. Woodland you just need a good idea and to be sneaky. The slower pace and distance lends itself to planning an attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters ImTriggerHappy Posted January 10, 2018 Supporters Share Posted January 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Wo1f said: Depending on the layout, it’s virtually impossible to do well as a single person in CQB. Beg to differ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Readman97 Posted January 10, 2018 Author Share Posted January 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, L3wisD said: Camo at airsoft range is pointless anyway. Even guys in ghillie suits stand out. Have to disagree with that, good use of camo with suitable tactics can make you very hard to see indeed, DPM works far better than MTP for woodland in winter, but come summer, its the opposite way round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wo1f Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, ImTriggerHappy said: Beg to differ Come to the mill in Wigan. It’s designed so that it’s virtually impossible to defend or attack an objective single handedly. It’s easily doable with 2, but very hard for a lone player.. unless of course the kids are off school. Then you can do it with a straw and a pocket full of .12’s lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Readman97 Posted January 10, 2018 Author Share Posted January 10, 2018 7 minutes ago, Wo1f said: Come to the mill in Wigan. It’s designed so that it’s virtually impossible to defend or attack an objective single handedly. It’s easily doable with 2, but very hard for a lone player.. unless of course the kids are off school. Then you can do it with a straw and a pocket full of .12’s lol And i bet you they still say you're firing hot with that lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Lozart Posted January 10, 2018 Supporters Share Posted January 10, 2018 CQB and woodland games are a different skillset if done "properly". One isn't more difficult than the other, it's just different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommikka Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, ImTriggerHappy said: Nope to be good in CQB takes a lot more skill than in woodland. Definately a rethink on tactics and what works There are things you can get away with in woods, and there are things you can get away with indoors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Readman97 Posted January 10, 2018 Author Share Posted January 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Lozart said: CQB and woodland games are a different skillset if done "properly". One isn't more difficult than the other, it's just different. Agree, woodland definitely has the potential to be more challenging, especially if its a site for a lot of distanced kills and you're running iron sights lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Lozart Posted January 10, 2018 Supporters Share Posted January 10, 2018 Just now, Readman97 said: Agree, woodland definitely has the potential to be more challenging, especially if its a site for a lot of distanced kills and you're running iron sights lol If that's the case then you aren't using the right tool for the job. Same as trying to run a VSR in a kill house. That's why I said "done properly". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Readman97 Posted January 10, 2018 Author Share Posted January 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Lozart said: If that's the case then you aren't using the right tool for the job. Same as trying to run a VSR in a kill house. That's why I said "done properly". Personally i run a 4x acog for outdoors and a reflex RDS for CQB, but sometimes you just have to piss with the cock you got lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters ImTriggerHappy Posted January 10, 2018 Supporters Share Posted January 10, 2018 On 1/10/2018 at 4:45 PM, Lozart said: CQB and woodland games are a different skillset if done "properly". One isn't more difficult than the other, it's just different. I would disagree to be honest. I think there are lots of people who do well outdoors because the slower pace and ability to pick shots a bit more lends itself to most people easier. Its also more gear specific as in a good long range accurate gun can make all the difference. Seen very few really good CQB players though. The awareness and controlled speed and aggresion some players show can really set them apart. Agree both take skill to be good but think top notch CQB players are a different thing entirely, just check out some of the speedsofters putting vids out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Lozart Posted January 10, 2018 Supporters Share Posted January 10, 2018 1 minute ago, ImTriggerHappy said: I would disagree to be honest. I think there are lots of people who do well outdoors because the slower pace and ability to pick shots a bit more lends itself to most people easier. Its also more gear specific as in a good long range accurate gun can make all the difference. Seen very few really good CQB players though. The awarenes and controlled speed and aggresion some players show can really set them apart. Agree both take skill to be good but think top notch CQB players are a different thing entirely, just check out some of the speedsofters putting vids out. Like I say though, it's a completely different skillset. I agree that CQB needs a more aggressive approach and woodland can reward a more tactical style but I would say that the speedsoft side is a different thing entirely again. A good speedsoft player wouldn't do very well at Longmoor just the same as someone that only ever plays in the woods will struggle at The Mall. Yes, the kit is different but an M4 (say what you like about them) will work in all those scenarios outside of specialist roles (and to be honest a well set up AEG isn't going to be at that much of a range disadvantage out in the woods). The thing is, if you drop down from the upper levels of the people that deliberately specialise in one form of play (speedsoft/sniper etc) then in terms of being good rather than exceptional, it is no more difficult to play CQB than it is woodland, you just need to employ a different approach. In MY experience people think that one or the other is more demanding than the other purely based on how much time they've spent doing one over the others. People that play a lot of CQB think they're better airsofters than the woodland lot and vice versa. They're both (usually) wrong because all they've done is improve one skillset at the cost of the other thus THEY find the one they don't usually do to be more challenging - the fat knackers that wander about like a tit in a trance at The Mall think woodland is better because that's what they can cope with and the kiddies that tear arse about on a woodland field complaining about nobody taking their hits from their uber leet high cycle MP7 while getting sniped from the other side of the field think that that CQB is better because they have three parts of f*ck all situational awareness beyond 3 metres. It's entirely possible to do well enough to enjoy yourself (which at the end of the day is all that ACTUALLY counts) by being slow in CQB or running about like a loon in woodland BUT it's no more difficult to do either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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