Jezza Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Hey guys, I'm looking at buying a gbb pistol from a retailer in Spain but Im not sure what the law is on importing?? I don't want my gun getting seized!! Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishMans Airsoft Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 If you can buy a M4a1 (real gun) off the deep web and get it delivered to your door you will be fine. And there is no import restrictions for airsoft guns. You will have an orange tip and shipping might cost a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Prisce Posted October 19, 2017 Supporters Share Posted October 19, 2017 ^ NOT TRUE. To import into the UK successfully you need a defence, UKARA Is most common, but you can be a reenactor, film producer amongst other things, but you will have to provide proof. The orange tip thing is BS, believe it's only in America. As its from Spain, no customs charges I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommikka Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 8 hours ago, EnglishMans Airsoft said: If you can buy a M4a1 (real gun) off the deep web and get it delivered to your door you will be fine. And there is no import restrictions for airsoft guns. You will have an orange tip and shipping might cost a bit. You can only buy a real gun off the ‘dark web’ if you can find the wrong places and wrong people and manage to get away with it Orange tips have no relevance in the UK, it’s an American thing, guns can be bought elsewhere in the world with orange tips just because they are made that way for the American market and manufacturers don’t necessarily make seperate manufacturing runs Orange tip means toy in America Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommikka Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 8 hours ago, Jezza said: Hey guys, I'm looking at buying a gbb pistol from a retailer in Spain but Im not sure what the law is on importing?? I don't want my gun getting seized!! Cheers! Same rules on legality in the UK, if it’s considered to be overpowered etc it could be seized at customs It would get identified as a RIF in customs / the carriers international handling and unless theres enough paperwork on the label then you get a card in the lost asking about your VCRA defence , if you get the retailer to add UKARA information to the label then it might come straight through As it from Spain and still part of the EU then it will be tax paid in Spain and no import charges or fees required, postage will be international but within Europe so not much different to within the UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted October 19, 2017 Supporters Share Posted October 19, 2017 8 hours ago, EnglishMans Airsoft said: And there is no import restrictions for airsoft guns. Is that a fact? You'd better let the UK government know that they're governmenting wrong. https://www.gov.uk/guidance/import-controls-on-offensive-weapons https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/550337/Firearms_controls_at_point_of_entry_into_the_UK_from_the_EU_August_2016.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Moderator Jedi_Master Posted October 19, 2017 Head Moderator Share Posted October 19, 2017 10 hours ago, EnglishMans Airsoft said: And there is no import restrictions for airsoft guns. You will have an orange tip and shipping might cost a bit. Please read the forum rules • Giving advice Give solid advice only if you are sure what you are talking about. Don't mislead people as at best you are risking their money, and at worst, you are risking their safety. It's much better to say your only guessing and let others add to your answer than to lead the person into doing something wrong, and coming back and pointing the finger at you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jezza Posted October 19, 2017 Author Share Posted October 19, 2017 Thanks guys. I've got a UKARA defence so will make sure they write it on the label! And I'll make sure not to buy any real guns online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted October 19, 2017 Supporters Share Posted October 19, 2017 Out of interest, what are you getting, and why get it from Spain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jezza Posted October 19, 2017 Author Share Posted October 19, 2017 Im after a cybergun/ KWC desert eagle. But I want one with the full auto setting! I found loads of videos of them online but nowhere in england that Sells that model. Only ones I could find where in america or Spain. http://www.airsoftestartit.com/en/-225.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Tackle Posted October 19, 2017 Moderators Share Posted October 19, 2017 21 hours ago, EnglishMans Airsoft said: If you can buy a M4a1 (real gun) off the deep web and get it delivered to your door you will be fine. And there is no import restrictions for airsoft guns. You will have an orange tip and shipping might cost a bit. Sorry, can't help myself, this guys a keeper lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgeturner2001 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 24 minutes ago, Tackle said: Sorry, can't help myself, this guys a keeper lol He speaks the truth, I've actually ordered an m4a1 ( real gun ) of the dark web... I like the real gun in brackets just in case anyone thought they were ordering rubber guns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Tackle Posted October 19, 2017 Moderators Share Posted October 19, 2017 Read the rest of his posts, you'll be chuckling all night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostly Retired Moderators L3wisD Posted October 20, 2017 Mostly Retired Moderators Share Posted October 20, 2017 18 hours ago, Jezza said: Thanks guys. I've got a UKARA defence so will make sure they write it on the label! And I'll make sure not to buy any real guns online. One good tip is to put your UKARA number in the "Company name" bit of the address box. That way it'll definitely be on the parcel. Or just anywhere on the address, don't rely on them to remember to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jezza Posted October 20, 2017 Author Share Posted October 20, 2017 That's a really good shout, thanks bud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 I bought some real steel parts from the States recently, asked them to put Airsoft Parts and UKARA number on the post label, no probs at all rdb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommikka Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, rocketdogbert said: I bought some real steel parts from the States recently, asked them to put Airsoft Parts and UKARA number on the post label, no probs at all rdb I get mine from Bob at the QMs ..... but he makes me pick them up from the back door ar midnight for some reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommikka Posted October 21, 2017 Share Posted October 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, rocketdogbert said: I bought some real steel parts from the States recently, asked them to put Airsoft Parts and UKARA number on the post label, no probs at all rdb On a more serious note - real weapons, parts, and ammunition are fully legal in the uk. It just depends on the specific item, what the intended use is and if necessary whether you have the right ID I used to pick up ammunition components for my boss along the route when I was off to the midlands for meetings Sometimes I could just pick up, sometimes show my ID, sometimes bring his ID & certificate and sometimes he had to be there in person Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStew Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 HMRC has access to UKARA I have never had a problem bring a RIF in if my UKARA No is on the package Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted October 28, 2017 Supporters Share Posted October 28, 2017 10 hours ago, BigStew said: HMRC has access to UKARA On knowledge, or by inference? I'd hope they have access and are checking it. Given that ukara.org.uk is bit of a novelty-purposes-only site[*], I'd wonder if the process is more like checking for something that looks like it might be a UKARA number, if they bother to check at all. [*] see the requirements for businesses to display full contact details and the statutory e-commerce details, when UKARA doesn't provide any contact details, a DPA declaration, or a way to file a subject access request. You have to go to the domain record to find that it's (probably) being run out of Fife by a sole trader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigStew Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 stated to me by a customs rep. they could have been lying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Rogerborg Posted October 28, 2017 Supporters Share Posted October 28, 2017 Sounds promising though, that it's more than just luck that gets RIFs through. I don't suppose the issue of defences other than UKARA that could be offered at the point of import came up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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