MAS Posted May 4, 2015 Author Share Posted May 4, 2015 Thanks geoffreym I think you are the first one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 I can't seem to register there, keeps coming up with an error! Posted on your behalf http://arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/214949-the-most-advanced-airsoft-grenade-in-the-world/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAS Posted May 4, 2015 Author Share Posted May 4, 2015 Thanks Mack! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAS Posted May 4, 2015 Author Share Posted May 4, 2015 Posted on your behalf http://arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/214949-the-most-advanced-airsoft-grenade-in-the-world/ Mack, this is the kickstarter video, it's on INDIGOGO now http://igg.me/at/InSwJfgK8KU/x/10714810 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAS Posted May 4, 2015 Author Share Posted May 4, 2015 Oh yes, I see you added that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAS Posted May 4, 2015 Author Share Posted May 4, 2015 So, by popular demand.. The people have spoken!!! This product will now be supplied with a blank / primer base. There will be an insert which will cater for different gauge blank ammunition but initially it will allow for 9mm blanks with a primer insert (spacer) to allow for the smaller charge. The proprietary base will be an optional extra. How does that sound? I've got 60 days to design a holder and a sprung hammer released by a solenoid, that's more than long enough. Are there any more suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAS Posted May 5, 2015 Author Share Posted May 5, 2015 Please could someone post a link to the most popular primer that is used, or perhaps the cheapest available one that offers enough of a bang? The US guys seem to be interested in 9MM blanks so it will take those too, with an adaptor for anything smaller then the largest option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clumpyedge Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Please could someone post a link to the most popular primer that is used, or perhaps the cheapest available one that offers enough of a bang? The US guys seem to be interested in 9MM blanks so it will take those too, with an adaptor for anything smaller then the largest option. http://www.socomtactical.net/airsoft-accessories/pyros-and-grenades/blanks-and-caps/cheddite-209-shotgun-primers-pack-of-100.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAS Posted May 5, 2015 Author Share Posted May 5, 2015 http://www.socomtactical.net/airsoft-accessories/pyros-and-grenades/blanks-and-caps/cheddite-209-shotgun-primers-pack-of-100.html Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAS Posted May 5, 2015 Author Share Posted May 5, 2015 So, is anyone else going to back this so it can get a little momentum? Or do I just send Geoff my prototypes in 59 days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hef Legend Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 How much is the minimum backing to get one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiantKiwi Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 How much is the minimum backing to get one? By the looks of it £55 inc P&P, which for *any* BFG is bloody amazing o.o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAS Posted May 5, 2015 Author Share Posted May 5, 2015 By the looks of it £55 inc P&P, which for *any* BFG is bloody amazing o.o This ^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters NickM Posted May 5, 2015 Supporters Share Posted May 5, 2015 I have decided, as soon as it changes from flexible to fixed funding you will find me on your indigogo order sheet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacMaster Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 You'll be getting my funding soon as well. edit: posted links to this thread and the fundraiser's page onto a Facebook airsoft buy/sell group, seems to be working- 4 more donators! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAS Posted May 5, 2015 Author Share Posted May 5, 2015 "Flexible Funding: This campaign will receive all funds raised even if it does not reach its goal." No offence but this puts me off 8% funded and 60 days still to go... Lets just assume it will reach 100% in 60 days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters SeniorSpaz87 Posted May 5, 2015 Supporters Share Posted May 5, 2015 This ^^^^ That is one benefit of a new radical design attempting to push away a product champion... The possibility of lower costs, but with more market appeal leading to everyone being happy... Sorry, I have my IB Design Technology exams next week; and this is the kinda thing we study a lot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters sp00n Posted May 5, 2015 Supporters Share Posted May 5, 2015 8% funded and 60 days still to go... Lets just assume it will reach 100% in 60 days The flexible thing puts me off, my head keeps asking "what guarantee are there that I would get the grenade that I ordered? " Like I said in my reply to your message, I don't know you, you could be a true honourable gent or not. Can anyone (existing member on here) vouch for you? Or has at leased played on the se site as you? Sorry if this sounds like I am having a go, or being negative, I do not mean it to come across that way. This is something I want, but like 90% of people I work too dam hard to give away what little I earn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAS Posted May 5, 2015 Author Share Posted May 5, 2015 When it gets to 100% they'de release the funds in either case. The only difference is it can can fall short of 100% in flexible and they still release funds.. Image it's 98% and then they don't release it when actually I could make 80 grenades and it's still viable. The point is, even with Fixed, I get the funds and don't have to supply anything. But of course the whole point here is to make this product even better than it already is and make this a desirable product so that all the resellers want to stock it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAS Posted May 5, 2015 Author Share Posted May 5, 2015 I have to accept that they might not be able to change it, if this is the case (and they haven't got back to me yet) then when it gets to 100% then it doesn't make any difference which it is. Fixed or Flexible as past that point they release funds at the 60 day point. So just wait until it gets to 100% if you are concerned, if it falls short then wait until the product released. 11% already at day 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkee Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 this concerns me as well, guess I will wait and see if it looks like getting funded. I love the idea though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAS Posted May 6, 2015 Author Share Posted May 6, 2015 Michele, May 5, 16:38: Hi MOLYNEUX ADVANCED SYSTEMS, Thanks for reaching out to us. Unfortunately, once a campaign has gone live and raised any amount of funds, we're not able to change the campaign's funding structure. This is because we use different payment processing systems for contributions made via flexible funding versus those made via fixed funding. However, if you'd like to launch a new campaign with the Flexible Funding structure, you are welcome to do so. You can change the text in your Fixed campaign to indicate you are no longer raising funds, and once your campaign hits its deadline all of your contributors will be refunded. Thanks for your understanding, and please let me know if you have any further questions. Cheers, MicheleCustomer HappinessIndiegogo (www.indiegogo.com) I'm sure they mean Fixed but never mind, it's not able to be changed and it's been shared so many times that I don't want to loose the link. 20% funded already guys! Just over 24 hours... Do you still think you need to wait? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 Not sure if youve seen the arnies thread mate so ill post the questions here and can relay them if you like. http://arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/214949-the-most-advanced-airsoft-grenade-in-the-world/ 1. The following applies to the Kickstarter page, since although some of the questions are answered elsewhere the Kickstarter page will be your primary sales pitch. It looks promising, but you don't talk at all about how the firing portion of the grenade actually works. Is it blank-firing? Reloadable cartridges? How about the battery - is it a LiPo, a NiMH? Is it a standard size, or proprietary? Is that the final design - and if so, why have you got exposed cap-head machine screws at one end that concentrate force and could injure someone, when you could recess them? How do the automatic updates work - do they work on Mac and PC? Is there software we need to install, and if so, how is that supported? I want something like this very much, but your draft is a way off ready - hell, even the design of the grenade itself could use some work IMO, especially concerning those bolt heads. If it doesn't use blanks - the UK standard, and rightly so given how affordable they are, why not? Can you guarantee a supply of these presumably proprietary explosives? I think this is a great idea, but it needs polish. 2. It would nice if it was a bit more....grenadey. Like the Cyalume which I appreciate is a hell of a lot more. http://www.lumisafe.co.uk/CTS/HG1.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
two_zero Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 This seems like a really cool project, I especially like the recovery features... maybe they could also have recovery homepage instructions engraved, so that site owners can recover them without having to know about it in advance?Two things that comes to my mind as far as competition goes thou:1. I, and I guess others too, trust electronic a lot less than mechanic, no matter how robust they are claimed to be. So a no-questions-asked guarantee for maybe 10 years(?) would probably help your sales. 2. There is a blank out there now where you can load 6(?) blanks, the n just click and twist in between use. I'd say that's your biggest competition, if a similar feature would be integrated I think that would also win over a lot of customers. anyway, great to see something new and innovative, keep it up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAS Posted May 6, 2015 Author Share Posted May 6, 2015 Not sure if youve seen the arnies thread mate so ill post the questions here and can relay them if you like. http://arniesairsoft.co.uk/forums/index.php?/topic/214949-the-most-advanced-airsoft-grenade-in-the-world/ 1. The following applies to the Kickstarter page, since although some of the questions are answered elsewhere the Kickstarter page will be your primary sales pitch. It looks promising, but you don't talk at all about how the firing portion of the grenade actually works. Is it blank-firing? Reloadable cartridges? How about the battery - is it a LiPo, a NiMH? Is it a standard size, or proprietary? Is that the final design - and if so, why have you got exposed cap-head machine screws at one end that concentrate force and could injure someone, when you could recess them? How do the automatic updates work - do they work on Mac and PC? Is there software we need to install, and if so, how is that supported? I want something like this very much, but your draft is a way off ready - hell, even the design of the grenade itself could use some work IMO, especially concerning those bolt heads. If it doesn't use blanks - the UK standard, and rightly so given how affordable they are, why not? Can you guarantee a supply of these presumably proprietary explosives? I think this is a great idea, but it needs polish. 2. It would nice if it was a bit more....grenadey. Like the Cyalume which I appreciate is a hell of a lot more. http://www.lumisafe.co.uk/CTS/HG1.shtml 1. The battery is LiPo and not serviceable due to the soldered connection required for reliability and the high current required for igniting the fuse at such a low voltage. The grenade currently uses proprietary pre-loads but due to demand we are currently designing a solenoid actuated sprung hammer blank / primer base which will be supplied with the IGG order. The bolt heads are there to help prevent the button being pressed so they serve two purposes.. Basically, don't throw it at someone's head! We can do a boot at a later date. 2. We'll paint it green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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