Albiscuit Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 I have been looking at what I can do with my M4, I have an idea of what I wanted it to look like but has kind of had different accessories thrown at it and its looking a bit frankengun right now So..... I have decided I either want to emulate what I originally had in mind or turn it into a L119A1 as I am kind of going for a UKSF loadout anyway and use an Mp5K so a SAS look suits what I had in mind. However, I only have a Combat Raider I dont know anything about modding guns and changing parts other than RIS add ons. So... 1) Can a Combat raider be turned into a L119A1, ( I have been looking around and a new Barrel, Pistol Grip and Stock seem to be defining features) Can a Raider take a barrel and pistol grip like the G&P Storm grip and new barrel? 2) I have been toying with the idea of upgrading later in the year to an M4 of better quality, modability (is this a term? haha) to use as a main rifle outdoor as my raider lacks range compared to others and seems better suited to CQB, So should I wait and buy a better base weapon to turn into a L119A1? What would you guys do? Help and advice appreciated. As as per other threads, please post pics of your L119a1s to give a guy some inspiration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Lozart Posted April 4, 2015 Supporters Share Posted April 4, 2015 A raider can be made into an L119 in the same way a Ford fiesta can be turned into a mustang. It's technically possible but pretty impracticable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo88 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 From what I know of upgrading and it's not a lot. you could change the outer and inner barrel and the gearbox is upgradable. I also thought of this a while back and from what I gathered the better air seal you have and hop up the better the range. I seen company's doing 6.08m accuracy barrels so tighter isn't always better. If your going for power over rate of fire get a high tourqe gear set and motor and shim it properly watch YouTube. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Lozart Posted April 4, 2015 Supporters Share Posted April 4, 2015 Thing is though that an l119 is a very particular weapon. You'll basically be buying a lot if expensive parts and transplanting your gearbox into them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albiscuit Posted April 4, 2015 Author Share Posted April 4, 2015 A raider can be made into an L119 in the same way a Ford fiesta can be turned into a mustang. It's technically possible but pretty impracticable. Basically sums up what I didnt want to believe Ok, so a better base gun is ideal? I kind of thought so, but wondered more so for the look.. Are things like barrels and pistol grips fairly universal? are there anything I need to look out for, is it best to stick to same brands or ones for particular brands (I have seen barrels describes for particular guns, does this mean they ONLY fit this guns?) Sorry for the noob questions, but I have no one in real life to ask Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Lozart Posted April 4, 2015 Supporters Share Posted April 4, 2015 Basically sums up what I didnt want to believe Ok, so a better base gun is ideal? I kind of thought so, but wondered more so for the look.. Are things like barrels and pistol grips fairly universal? are there anything I need to look out for, is it best to stick to same brands or ones for particular brands (I have seen barrels describes for particular guns, does this mean they ONLY fit this guns?) Sorry for the noob questions, but I have no one in real life to ask Once you're into a new receiver (which you will be) then you shouldn't have too many compatibility issues. The biggest problem you'll have is that not many people do the right parts for an L119 and they're both expensive and hard to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albiscuit Posted April 4, 2015 Author Share Posted April 4, 2015 ok fair enough... It seems I may be misinformed, the parts (apart from stock issues) do seems to be available However I was more trying to emulate the look more so than anything else, even if I couldnt replace the barrel it was more of a copy of images rather than an exact replica I was going for. I know a raider is not the best platform, Im just trying to work out which direction I want to take the gun rather than keep buying and throwing accessories on it and it looking a mess, I dont think it has stayed the same for 2 skirmishes in a row Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Lozart Posted April 4, 2015 Supporters Share Posted April 4, 2015 Ok that makes life a bit easier then. You'll need a 10" ish barrel but I'm not sure what the fitting is like on the front of the receiver. If it is threaded and takes a normal delta ring then it should be pretty simple. At the end of the day, it's a short M4 derivative and as you say that bit should be easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Cheapest way is to sell your gun and look out for a secondhand L119. Join the L119 page on Facebook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straffham Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Another budget base gun you could go from would be the JG M733 Commando as they are cheap and cheerful, compatible with all the usual upgrades and comes with a similar style of buttstock (butt pad would still need to be found). The barrel is a tad long (11.5" iirc) but if you're changing it anyways what the hell. . .) plastic receiver again is compatible with mainstream metal ones. It has a standard gearbox (reliable but again can be upgraded) and metal M4 hop unit too. Converted mine to a XM177 with a G&P receiver, no problems fitting although the gb was a little tight in the slimmer XM body (M4 receivers have a little more space in them though!). Just an idea anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Monkey Nuts Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Isn't the C8 just an M4 built in Canada? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters M_P Posted April 5, 2015 Supporters Share Posted April 5, 2015 No, there are a number of differences Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Monkey Nuts Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Such as? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters jcheeseright Posted April 5, 2015 Supporters Share Posted April 5, 2015 Barrel, pistol grip, receiver, front sight, flash hider. Apart from that it's the same as an M4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Lozart Posted April 5, 2015 Supporters Share Posted April 5, 2015 Barrel, pistol grip, receiver, front sight, flash hider. Apart from that it's the same as an M4. Other than the diemaco c8 trades of course... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo88 Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 Just stick a long barrel a bi-pod and a scope on your M4 and just say it's a L119. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zak Da Mack Posted April 5, 2015 Share Posted April 5, 2015 How does that make it an L119A1? That makes it a DMR The actual c8 is made out of stronger metals or something like that apparently. The yahve different rifling twists and are supposedly more reliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters jcheeseright Posted April 5, 2015 Supporters Share Posted April 5, 2015 The C8 has a hammer forged heavy 16" barrel, much better quality than the barrel fitted to the M4. That's one of the real defining features of the C8/L119A1, the barrel profile. It's pretty straightforward to build an accurate L119A1 these days, no real excuse for half assing it other than cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJWest Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Better to post here than start a new thread, I'm doing the same but want to build from the ground up, what's a decent quality blank metal receiver? Upper and lower together if possible, I've looked online but wanted to know if anyone on here had any honest reviews/opinions rather than the obviously endorsed ones that are online, cheers folks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSCtheta7 Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Airsoft International did an article on L119s a while ago. If you can't find it on the internet, let me know and I'll send you some pics of it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJWest Posted July 12, 2016 Share Posted July 12, 2016 Think I know which one you're on about but I'm sure that article focused on TM recoils? Either way I'll send you a pm about the pics, in the meantime think I'm decided on ICS as I've found a blank metal receiver and it means I can use the split gearbox system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSCtheta7 Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 It would work for pretty much any CQBR gun - ideally with a blank receiver so you could get the Diemaco engravings on it. Anyway, here's the list for anyone that needs it. FLASH HIDER: standard A2 or 4-prong Surefire FH556-216A SUPPRESSOR: Surefire SF556 BARREL: 10" or 16" FRONT SIGHT: standard A2 or reinforced A2 w/ filled gap, neither have a bayonet lug HANDGUARD: KAC 7" drop-in RAS FOREGRIP: KAC screw-on foregrip RECEIVER: standard Colt w/ Diemaco engravings PISTOL GRIP: 'Stowaway Storm' or standard A2 OPTICS: EOTech 552, Trijicon ACOG w/ mini Docter sight or Diemaco carry handle STOCK: CAR-15 style with recoil pad or Magpul CTR Hope this helps anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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