Supporters Esoterick Posted February 9, 2014 Supporters Share Posted February 9, 2014 At the end of the day if Teo is happy with his loadout I say good on him. I don't think anyone should be too harsh on a player's kit, especially if they are on a limited budget. When I was 15 I was happy to have a set of DPM army surplus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skaut Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 I'silly monkey whit crooked hands and i need to use google translator to pick up words, don't beat me))))) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Ian_Gere Posted February 10, 2014 Supporters Share Posted February 10, 2014 Bit unfair on skaut. He is russian after all, frizzle. We wouldn't take the piss if you were filipino and didn't have a very good grasp of english. Let's have it right, Tac, Friz's grasp of English has been a matter of conjecture before Which I only mention, Friz, by way of one of those verbal cuffs around the ear we have had to visit before... I'm pretty sure I understand what Skaut means. TBH I'm surprised but not shocked that a 5 year old could end up in a Russian strikeball game zone, I mean have seen any Russian vids? I just hope the kid was wearing full face protection and had a really good and mega lightweight weapon! I think that, so long as they are accompanied by a sensible adult and wear full face protection, there is no reason why a particular 9 year old should not play, but I wouldn't say that all 9 year olds are fit for airsoft, or 8 year olds, but on a case by case basis I'll bet that some kids around that age are sensible enough to grasp the importance of the safety briefing instructions and stick to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
two_zero Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Well kudos to you mate. I think most people would have a moan is because people may think you're just a kid spoiled by your parents etc. However, you getting that RIF sounds abit dodgy. You should have given atleast some sort of defence. EDIT: What site do you go to? I've never known a site allow 9 year olds on pretty much what I was thinking, especially about the RIFs I think that, so long as they are accompanied by a sensible adult and wear full face protection, there is no reason why a particular 9 year old should not play insurance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skaut Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Yes hi was in full face mask, but my weight was 90 kg, what if i accident step/ fall/ jump from the window on 5 yaers ( or 9 years) kid?What happens with his psyche after the explosion of airsoft graned in room, behind him? I think his father blunt. The organizations made their money, but they got to the brain after that. Many airsoft families take 5 years kid to the forest when they visit game, but they stay at not military zone of camp.And no one shoot in that area, and gun carrying whit out magazines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Ian_Gere Posted February 10, 2014 Supporters Share Posted February 10, 2014 Yeah, I did not think of falling on a young kid or pyrotechnics... OK, it is a terrible idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skaut Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 If i hear something strange in the room, first comes granete.I really love kids and thoughts of harming a child drieve me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose87 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 its crazy what people let their kids do. i work in a ski resort in canada, we have kids and by that i mean 12 and under, getting put on buses with money to come to the resort and ski by themselves with no adult supervision. you think airsoft is dangerous! all those who ski or snowboard will understand what i mean. i see broken bones, unconscious bodies, people of spinal boards on a daily basis but there is no law to stop them buying a ticket and skiing. i have complained about it but no one cares. you cant by RIF but you can travel to a mountain and ski all day with no one fussing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Ian_Gere Posted February 10, 2014 Supporters Share Posted February 10, 2014 Actually my parents would have sent me off to ski on my own at 8 or so and by 10 they'd have sent me to Canada on my own to ski, if it wasn't for the fact that my dad was tighter than a duck's arse under water and wouldn't have paid for me to get the bus to school, when I was 4 years old, on my own, if it wasn't for my mum who would have divorced him for trying to make me walk (and despite how this sounds like exaggeration for comic effect, I swear to you I did catch the bus 5 days a week on my own aged 4 and my dad did begrudge the two pence it cost)! That wasn't so uncommon in '72. Certainly by 5 years old all boys were expected to leave the house without supervision for 3-4 hours at a time at the weekends and by 7-8 years old most of the day. Our parents would periodically find out what we actually did during that time, when somebody would end up in hospital. Everybody would get a good hiding, we would be forbidden from doing whatever had caused the injury, with very little expectation that we would obey, and it would be chalked up to a good lesson to look after yourself better. I'm not sure that what was, by today's standards, neglect was entirely good for us, but I also wonder if we are increasingly breeding generations of people without the necessary degree of self confidence and initiative needed to decide to do something completely new and take care of all aspects of it, including safety, themselves. I mean without some supervision or guarantee that everything will be safe. Except of course, those whom are sent to posh boarding schools, or those whom are genuinely neglected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters jcheeseright Posted February 10, 2014 Supporters Share Posted February 10, 2014 I agree entirely, a friend of mine won't let his eleven year old son walk to school on his own because he doesn't trust him to cross a road on his own... seriously WTF. When I was eleven I was going on 2 day trips away to the countryside with nothing but a box of sandwiches, a thermos of tea and a crappy canvas tent. No adult supervision, no mobile phone safety net, just trust from my parents that I'd be home by Sunday afternoon and that if I wasn't I'd be in trouble! I do worry for the current generation of kids, they're so wrapped up in cotton wool and one day they're going to have to get out into the world on their own! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Lozart Posted February 10, 2014 Supporters Share Posted February 10, 2014 Hi. I started Airsoft when I was 9 and have been hooked ever since. I am now 13. Over the years I have acquired a lot of kit. I get mixed remarks about me having kit that sometimes looks better than the middle aged guys who have been playing for 10+'years. As you can see in the pic. What do you guys think. Please no hate Hey, ignore the naysayers, I think you're doing fine right there. If you're ever down this way you'd be welcome to play with Team Gagglefuck. Note that I say "with" because if he's been playing for that long he's probably better than me. Plus we can send him in first and people will be all like "awww....lookit the sweet little kiddy" and then we'll jump out and be all "SURPRISE, COCK FAGS!" and rinse them. Cos that's how we roll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fumps Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Teo I think your loadout looks ace mate, and it will serve you well as you go. Having a hobby is important and it will teach you more than you realize in life & I think its ace that you do something your interested in, keep at it dude and hopefully some of us will see you on the sites kicking ass. On the subject of age, I'm taking my 11 year old to his first skirmish this year, he's been to the site in question & the guys who run it have seen how he is when handling a rif & how he responds to safety procedures, they had a meeting about it & decided to fill out all forms to allow this to happen. I will be his responsible adult & this will be done with all the requested safety procedures in mind. I agree with the post above, you can wrap kids in cotton wool too much, and up to a point it is getting silly, but on the flip side we also underestimate kids too often. I was unsure at first about my son's age but after speaking to the organizers who were very impressed with his mannerisms & willingness to learn, they made the decision to give him the opportunity to skirmish, the encouragement offered to newer generations of Airsoft players is very important, teach them well and the sport will flourish, discourage, patronize & victimize them then your looking at a dead sport populated by cliques. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fumps Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 And also to Skaut: Keep going man, your English is much better than my Russian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothpick-NL Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 you kids must be lucky,here in the Netherlands), and also in Belgium,It's omly airsoft for 18+ and if i got it right it's also like that in Germany. I think it's a good thing. Aks your own forces who have been to Iraq or Afghanistan. There are kids walking with guns. And when you came to close the aim it at you. "is it a game?" "is it defending ther homes?" or "does he want you killed because the think you don't belong there" You as adult have to pull the trigger, what would you do?No kids (-18) must be playing with toys/ gamining or flirting with the other sexe. And when you are grown up you can start playing with guns. This because you than better realise what they can do. That safety rules are not something to f*ck with. I have been serving the Dutch army for 7 years till 2011. and i'm lucky that i didn't have to make the choice about the child with the gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teo Posted February 10, 2014 Author Share Posted February 10, 2014 Hey, ignore the naysayers, I think you're doing fine right there. If you're ever down this way you'd be welcome to play with Team Gagglefuck. Note that I say "with" because if he's been playing for that long he's probably better than me. Plus we can send him in first and people will be all like "awww....lookit the sweet little kiddy" and then we'll jump out and be all "SURPRISE, COCK FAGS!" and rinse them. Cos that's how we roll Haha, if I'm ever down your way, I'll hit ya up mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Metile Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 You're moving to Crawley and being my friend. Okay? We can play airsoft together and we can be best friends. Then I'll have a friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anarchy Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I've seen a few places in England where the site allows under 16's if accompanied by an adult and a parent has to sign the insurance waiver, there was a kid who must have been around ten at Frontier Airsoft on Sunday, I didn't really like shooting at him until he got me but some guy sprayed him and his mate point blank in the face which was a tad harsh, it's lucky he had full face protection on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacMaster Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 There's a place local to me in Surrey which has specific U18 game days. You still have to be over 12 through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teo Posted February 10, 2014 Author Share Posted February 10, 2014 You're moving to Crawley and being my friend. Okay? We can play airsoft together and we can be best friends. Then I'll have a friend Or you could move to NI. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose87 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 theres letting a kid get the bus and then letting them go skiing. in minus 20-30 conditions where frost nip/ bite are real possiblities. thats just irresponsible. im all for letting my kids play and get hurt and do stupid stuff. but not unsupervised dangerous.sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fumps Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I've seen a few places in England where the site allows under 16's if accompanied by an adult and a parent has to sign the insurance waiver, there was a kid who must have been around ten at Frontier Airsoft on Sunday, I didn't really like shooting at him until he got me but some guy sprayed him and his mate point blank in the face which was a tad harsh, it's lucky he had full face protection on Oof a spray in the face is harsh to anyone. But when my boy is playing I'm letting anyone have free reign on him, if he gets hit, he takes it, simple as that. None of this go easy on him just because he's younger, being treat differently will teach him nothing. He's a tough kid he can take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remus Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Or you could move to NI. :-) dont do it man, its not worth it, jk. as far as rules of age afik, you have to be 13 and whilst under i think 18 supposed to wear full face over here(least thats what my site says) however i know the age limit isnt overly strict, specially if a guardian is playing too. i kinda accidentally shot a kid full auto short range and made him cry once, was aiming for a bigger person behind his postition as he popped round the corner.... felt so bad. and apoligised but what can ya do it happens. was almost as bad as the time i was shooting a guy as he ran towards a bridge, must hve distracted him and he ran into the bridge face first, which i didnt see, thought he had dived and shot him on the ground only to hear the marshals whistle and realise what had happened... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skaut Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 In this qwestion a lot of nuances and asprcts. I start play when i was 10. We use only spring guns and full face protection, we play whit gyus the same age. In the end if people in same age harm each other it's ok and from the point of the law and with human. At my opinion the kid which play with ower 20 year men in airsoft it's too dangerous. As for Teo i belive he good gyu, and may bee it's be nice to play with him.But... About childrens on the war Valia Kotik born 11/02/1930was killed in 1943 by SS rewarded star of hero of Sviet Union.-hi don't play airsoft. 2Fumps Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Ian_Gere Posted February 11, 2014 Supporters Share Posted February 11, 2014 OK people, we do not need any more discussion about armed children and/or the relevance of airsoft to their plight, because clearly there is none. To some people the subject matter is upsetting, to others irritating, but however we as individuals feel about it, off topic it most certainly is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
two_zero Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I've seen a few places in England where the site allows under 16's if accompanied by an adult and a parent has to sign the insurance waiver, there was a kid who must have been around ten at Frontier Airsoft on Sunday, I didn't really like shooting at him until he got me but some guy sprayed him and his mate point blank in the face which was a tad harsh, it's lucky he had full face protection on Think 16 is the age limit on TWA, anyone under 18 is required full face mask thou. and when we still could go up on the roof no under 18s allowed. Edit. seems I was mistaken. dunno what made me say 16 when I know players younger than that are there every game. cant find a minimum age (even thou I am sure they have one) in the site rules as stated on their homapage... here's all age related I could find in it: "Any player under the age of 17 MUST wear a full face mask." "If thunder flashes or BB grenades are used, and do not detonate after you have thrown them - LEAVE THEM ALONE - DO NOT ATTEMPT TO PICK THEM UP! They are not available to anyone under the age of 18." "Players under the age of 16 must have insurance waiver form signed by their parent or guardian before they will be allowed to play." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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