JRTIGHE Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 I've just purchased an M4, and I've always been attracted to buy a sight for aesthetics... but what good do they actually do on the field? I always wanted an EoTech but from what I've heard a lot of them have terrible image quality and ghosting, so I'm driven to believe a simple red dot would be better - maybe a Micro T1? As this will be on an M4 I don't think it would need to be magnified. What are your experiences with various different styles of sight, and which suits your play style best? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters sp00n Posted April 24, 2013 Supporters Share Posted April 24, 2013 i have a x4 sight on my M4 (got it off eBay, cost some £50 iirc, have a look in gear and load outs for my thread) has a 3 colour illuminated recticle etc. you could always look at a 551 sight (waiting for one to arrive for my MP5K). edit :- unfortunately there is no "best" as some will be more usable in one situation over another etc. what do you intend to do CQC or?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Airsoft-Ed Posted April 24, 2013 Supporters Share Posted April 24, 2013 Zoom sights can be nice for woodland just to get a closer look of that bush in the distance that you suspect might be hiding someone behind it. It also helps you adjust shots at longer range, and in my experience there's less cheat calling when more people have zoom scopes. As BBs travel further away they obviously reach a point when they're too small to see, especially against certain backgrounds. A lot of times people will be at that exact range and they'll lose sight of their BBs right as they're heading to hit someone, so the person will assume they're hitting them and then have a tantrum. With a scope, you can see the BBs for that added 10m or so and realise that they're dropping 15 feet short of the target. It's not a massive issue and it's one people can get around, but I like having around 4x zoom just to get a better view of things. ACOGs are great for woodland play imo, plus you can get them with red dots mounted on top, then you get the best of both worlds. And they look awesome, which is pretty much the point of airsoft - looking awesome. If you're predominantly a CQB player, you can't beat red dots and EOTechs, I've never even given ghosting a thought, I'm not even that sure I know what you mean... But if it's not something I've noticed whilst playing, or heard mentioned before, then it's evidently not a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pointman PUG Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Zoom sights can be nice for woodland just to get a closer look of that bush in the distance that you suspect might be hiding someone behind it. It also helps you adjust shots at longer range, and in my experience there's less cheat calling when more people have zoom scopes. As BBs travel further away they obviously reach a point when they're too small to see, especially against certain backgrounds. A lot of times people will be at that exact range and they'll lose sight of their BBs right as they're heading to hit someone, so the person will assume they're hitting them and then have a tantrum. With a scope, you can see the BBs for that added 10m or so and realise that they're dropping 15 feet short of the target. It's not a massive issue and it's one people can get around, but I like having around 4x zoom just to get a better view of things. ACOGs are great for woodland play imo, plus you can get them with red dots mounted on top, then you get the best of both worlds. And they look awesome, which is pretty much the point of airsoft - looking awesome. If you're predominantly a CQB player, you can't beat red dots and EOTechs, I've never even given ghosting a thought, I'm not even that sure I know what you mean... But if it's not something I've noticed whilst playing, or heard mentioned before, then it's evidently not a big deal. I bought cheap eotech sight with red dot laser attachment....I dont suffer from "ghosting" but terrible reflections off the poorly made glass fitted to the sights....it affects vision so much I prefer to just use the iron sights until I can get the g and g 1 to 4x sights...but I need 170 quid for that little beauty!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Ian_Gere Posted April 26, 2013 Supporters Share Posted April 26, 2013 I just bought a G&P 551 with EOLAD Laser - £114 from Z1 - TBH I think it's £40-50 overpriced, but it does look the absolute dogs' bollocks! Still, I haven't skirmished it yet, so it might be sh!t... One thing about it that is a pain already is that the lead for the pressure pad is too short, but it is moulded into a micro TRS jack, so I'll have to cut the wire and add an extension in the middle, or buy new parts and start from scratch. Still, the pad itself is very good. Have a look at this though... saw it t'other day. No good for my G36 - too long, but on an M4 it could be excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tariq Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 I just bought a G&P 551 with EOLAD Laser - £114 from Z1 - TBH I think it's £40-50 overpriced, but it does look the absolute dogs' bollocks! Yeah i felt the same. Even the cheaper ones are £80. While they are nice, they do seem like there is little value for money when comparing it to a £40 Chinese clone. Yes they may be lesser in quality however do 80% of the function for 35% of the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK47frizzle Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 i personally prefer holographic sights. The ones made my Eotech are damn expensive but are like the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters sp00n Posted April 26, 2013 Supporters Share Posted April 26, 2013 search on ebay for item number 151026676516 ... i just got one ... for £33 its not bad at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZKaleem Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 i think you got the last one mate XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akey Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 I used to have an ELCAN on my M4, great sight but a little on the heavy side. It was 4x so was good for woodland and spotting but the eye relief started to get on my nearves (you had to be right on top of the sight). Recently changed to an aimpoint T1 Micro and love it, even in woodland. I only really used the ELCAN for spotting so I really dont miss it at all and the T1 is a great little sight IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacMaster Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 I have a G8G GP121 Aimpoint-styled red dot on my MP5, it makes it look a LOT different to all the EOTech'ed MP5s. The eye relief isn't bad either, and it has 5 different brightnesses as well as lens caps. (ignore the IPod and phone next to the gun ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRTIGHE Posted April 27, 2013 Author Share Posted April 27, 2013 I used to have an ELCAN on my M4, great sight but a little on the heavy side. It was 4x so was good for woodland and spotting but the eye relief started to get on my nearves (you had to be right on top of the sight). Recently changed to an aimpoint T1 Micro and love it, even in woodland. I only really used the ELCAN for spotting so I really dont miss it at all and the T1 is a great little sight IMHO. I was actually looking at the ELCAN 4x scopes and I liked the look of them. I was also looking at the 4x Trijicon style ACOGs. I do like having the 4x zoom as I've got a 4x rifle scope on my M14 which really helps with spotting as you say, but I might just go for a T1 on a high mount instead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Ian_Gere Posted April 27, 2013 Supporters Share Posted April 27, 2013 If you go with a T1 on a high mount, you could always add a 3x magnifier on a flip-to-side mount later, Joe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRTIGHE Posted April 27, 2013 Author Share Posted April 27, 2013 If you go with a T1 on a high mount, you could always add a 3x magnifier on a flip-to-side mount later, Joe. Good idea! Have you seen this done with a T1? I thought the 3x magnifiers were only truly compatible with the EoTechs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tariq Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 There are magnifiers for the aimpoint series as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam bussey Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 my 552 replica works quite well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Ian_Gere Posted April 27, 2013 Supporters Share Posted April 27, 2013 The first time I saw 3x magnifiers on flip-to-side mounts was with Aimpoint red dots, Joe. I dunno but I think that using them with EoTechs is a more recent thing. my 552 replica works quite well. That's great, Adam. Not much use to anybody else though, eh? Any chance you could tell us what make it is? Maybe even tell us what's good about it, what's not so good, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam bussey Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 The first time I saw 3x magnifiers on flip-to-side mounts was with Aimpoint red dots, Joe. I dunno but I think that using them with EoTechs is a more recent thing. That's great, Adam. Not much use to anybody else though, eh? Any chance you could tell us what make it is? Maybe even tell us what's good about it, what's not so good, etc. can't tell because i bought it 2nd hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supporters Ian_Gere Posted April 28, 2013 Supporters Share Posted April 28, 2013 Just spotted this, Joe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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