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But even bring conservative with ammunition using real caps isn't real for the reasons I stated as it might take 5 shots to make a hit as apposed to one in the real world, which is being "simulated"

Just looks like an advert for your YouTube site to be honest as you don't really use the forum much

Just looks like an advert for your YouTube site to be honest as you don't really use the forum much

Eat more and get fat for winter.

Unless you are the sort who just wants to buy a gun that will work well and not need to be messed with. A lot of airsofters dont like the techie side.

Take a flask of tea instead of cold water.

Whatever you like the shape of then upgrade everything inside with that kind of cash

Real cap mags are for that extra realism i guess. But i think being that its all toy guns, i might as well treat it like a segal movie and not have to reload for an unrealistic amount of time lol
 
Going to my first milsim with okto 8 in december and have a longmoor game next week. Personally, i dont enjoy haphazard nature of a skirmish. I want an objective. Still, its toy guns, and choice.

That's about the same amount of kit that's needed for a 6 month tour of the sand pit 😂

That's a bit harsh - I've yet to meet a milsim player who's ever tried to pretend (outside of their games) that they're something they're not. I do find it hilarious that anyone can spend so much on a pair of trousers or look at a £500 plate carrier and think 'yep, I need this over a £80 replica' regardless of their income, but if that's their way of finding enjoyment then I can see why and certainly wouldn't hate them for it.
 
I mean there are plenty of people who just go to normal skirmishes who spend excessive amounts on gear but I think we're all just pointing fun at an unrealistic stereotype that's not conducive to the majority number of milsimmers. It's all toy guns in the end.

That's about the same amount of kit that's needed for a 6 month tour of the sand pit 😂

I am a firm believer in each to their own.But sorry to anyone who has bought these but your f*cking nuts.

The way I see it is, Milsim is for players who want to look like the real thing and take things more serious than the usual skirmisher and not arse about quite as much but it's still absolutely nothing like the real thing, nowhere near.
The fact that it's still grown men pretending makes whole mindset, location and pressure of a Milsim not realistic apart from to look at.
Edit... I can't really explain what I mean lol, but that's no way supposed to be a Milsim put down as I do enjoy it it!
I'm sure you get me..
But you did explain it well to the layman

There is a DPM losely based loadout which yes is a Heinz 57 and allows a lot of latitude in kit for the rebels amongst us who dont like to conform.
 
Its a bit like football teams - you can fight with the team you support or best like the look of.
 
At the end of the day, it IS a game.
 
If people feel the adrenaline rush and that gut wrenching twist sphincter twitch when a firefight kicks off or that "high" when you creep into the enemy camp undetected and manage to steal a hostage or a technological cutting edge gizmo right from under their nose, then thats what we hope for.
 
We have quite a few ex mil players. They all know the difference between real combat and milsim games, but they still rave about them for weeks after.
 
Its probably one of the closest things you can do in civilian life to reconstruct the cameradie and team work that most miss from their time in the military,

Now we're getting somewhere!
 
Where are your guns deficiencies? What is your gun while we're at it?

Can consistently hit a man sized target at 50 metres.
 
Source: Man sized target on 50 metres on the range at RIFT Com 3

Are you shitting me! They cost £220, there's guys at my local site wear them... It's my mission to not be in their team and test if £220 trousers makes them not yelp like a girl when I make contact 😂

My issue is having already " learnt to shoot better" haha !!
And airsoft isnt accurate so trying to get it shoot well in comparison to others 😂

True, it's just good to have a bit of comparison so one can tell how much difference upgrades make and what other people's shoot at

Are you shitting me! They cost £220, there's guys at my local site wear them... It's my mission to not be in their team and test if £220 trousers makes them not yelp like a girl when I make contact 😂

http://www.uktactical.com/p-11169-crye-precision-combat-pants-gen-3-multicam.aspx
 
Plenty of decent guns under £220...

Hahah

Don't ask that from airsofters. The ones who took time and energy to actually measure it, will feel ashamed when they read that others' guns can reliably hit a man sized target at 100 meters.
I have seen videos that stated "100 meter shot" and calculating from the BB's flight time it was only 30 - and then when I commented it on the vid, the poster said: yeah, it might have been 30. I have heard numerous claims reaching 80-100 meters and when I asked for proof they all said: ok, I will take a vid. They never returned. People usually eyeball distances and don't count the few (dozen) flyers.
 
A fine tuned AEG shooting 350fps (with 0.20g) can hit a man quite reliably at 60m and headshot nearly every time on 40m with heavy BBs.
HPA or similar kits might reach further because of the joule creep, ergo higher energy with the heavy BB used. GBBRs can have joule creep too but they are usually way less accurate than an AEG.
50m is the range for a normal, well maintained AEG, with average 0.25.
40m or less for non-maintained AEGs and/or using 0.20.
 
Something like that.

Airsoft skirmishing is for people who want to run around have a laugh and shoot each other with bb guns.
 
Milsim is for guys who became accountants but like to pretend that they are Sas Elite Super Soldier for a day/weekend. Think table top wargaming with real people. 😉

http://airsoftpro.cz/eshop/index.php?cPath=93&osCsid=sc3tgipji4ev9of70hu39vpci2
 
If they haven't got it, ASPUK won't be getting it anytime soon.